Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/3/14 4:44 a.m.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/upshot/why-ben-bernanke-cant-refinance-his-mortgage.html?abt=0002&abg=0

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
10/3/14 5:39 a.m.

I wouldn't loan him money either.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
10/3/14 7:21 a.m.

I saw the teaser on the news this morning. I could not be happier.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
10/3/14 8:09 a.m.

You know he gets a quarter million dollars per speaking engagement, right? For destroying our economy and bailing.

Sine_Qua_Non
Sine_Qua_Non HalfDork
10/3/14 8:12 a.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: You know he gets a quarter million dollars per speaking engagement, right? For destroying our economy and bailing.

Good

Duke
Duke UltimaDork
10/3/14 8:33 a.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: You know he gets a quarter million dollars per speaking engagement, right? For destroying our economy and bailing.

Isn't it illegal for criminals to profit from the story rights of their crimes?

skierd
skierd SuperDork
10/3/14 2:48 p.m.

In a more perfect world, where local banks and local lenders still met with you and decided on your ability to repay, I'd hope they wouldn't let him refinance because he's Ben Bernanke as a thanks for helping to ruin the nation/world economy. The computer overlords got this one right methinks.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe SuperDork
10/3/14 3:23 p.m.

Says something when you have that sort of income and you have not paid off your house at his age and income.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
10/3/14 3:52 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: Says something when you have that sort of income and you have not paid off your house at his age and income.

For me too, my first thought was something like, "Dave Ramsey would not approve of still carrying a mortgage at this age."

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
10/3/14 4:50 p.m.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy UberDork
10/3/14 7:12 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: Says something when you have that sort of income and you have not paid off your house at his age and income.

Does it though?

With that kind of money, I'd be taking out all the cheap mortgage loan the bank would let me and invest my own money elsewhere. We're talking ~2.5% interest mortgages, that's practically free once factoring in inflation.

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
10/4/14 3:07 a.m.

If I had that kind of money, I wouldn't owe a dime to anyone.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
10/4/14 3:19 a.m.

In reply to novaderrik:

Unfortunately, that's not the attitude that gets you that kind of money.

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi SuperDork
10/4/14 6:48 a.m.
novaderrik wrote: If I had that kind of money, I.... Hookers and blow man, hookers and blow.

Fixed that...

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
10/4/14 7:54 a.m.

In reply to HiTempguy:

That's the way I did it. Retired with a nice severance package 6 years ago. I thought it made sense to pay off the rest of my mortgage. My financial guy convinced me not to and we invested the money. It turns out he was very,very right.

Grizz
Grizz UltraDork
10/4/14 8:43 a.m.
and that he is as safe a credit risk as one could imagine

I would argue that Bernanke is not a very safe credit risk, considering that he helped get a credit downgrade for an entire country.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy UberDork
10/4/14 9:09 a.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: In reply to HiTempguy: That's the way I did it. Retired with a nice severance package 6 years ago. I thought it made sense to pay off the rest of my mortgage. My financial guy convinced me not to and we invested the money. It turns out he was very,very right.

"It takes money to make money"

And

"The more money you have, the easier it is to make more"

One thing a lot of people dont realize is that a 2% net return (factoring in inflation) on million plus bucks is still a E36 M3 ton of cash on an annual basis.

Beyond that, I have a friend who has always said "after $75k per year, your annual salary doesn't matter, its what you do with it".

I completely agree, I'm only a couple of years away from that. My current salary covers my needs, my fun, and my retirement savings (set to be about 1.5mil at 55). Once I get to that $75k a year mark, its gravy from there... And the girlfriend doesnt want kids for at least 4 years!

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe SuperDork
10/4/14 9:22 a.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
wearymicrobe wrote: Says something when you have that sort of income and you have not paid off your house at his age and income.
Does it though? With that kind of money, I'd be taking out all the cheap mortgage loan the bank would let me and invest my own money elsewhere. We're talking ~2.5% interest mortgages, that's practically free once factoring in inflation.

I do the same thing mine you, I have 2+ million in property but with a LTV of 60% and definitely income generating. I pickup almost 2% above interest rate out here just on inflation on the whole shebang to to mention good years a good bit more.

Just do not like the man and wanted to take a stab and him, even though I will make tons and tons of money on his policies.

Grizz
Grizz UltraDork
10/4/14 9:32 a.m.

reply to HiTempguy: People think I'm crazy because I say that if I ever won the lotto, I'd throw the money in the bank and live off the interest alone

Flynlow
Flynlow Reader
10/4/14 9:59 a.m.

In reply to Grizz:

That's because the banks don't currently pay interest :).

Now if you threw it into the stock market...

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
10/4/14 1:12 p.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: In reply to novaderrik: Unfortunately, that's not the attitude that gets you that kind of money.

the only way i'm ever getting that kind of money is if i win the lottery.. and if i win the lottery, i'll have enough money that i won't be worried about making any more... so screw everyone- i'm hoarding my money somewhere (maybe not even in a bank) and not owing anyone anything... also, i'd be moving a state over (South Dakota) for however long it takes to be considered a "resident" there before ever turning in the ticket so as to not have to pay MN income taxes on my winnings, because screw that..

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
10/4/14 1:22 p.m.

To me this shows one thing.

He wasn't on the take from the S&L community. Laugh all you want, they don't deny loans to their own.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
10/5/14 6:40 p.m.

Yeah, with 4% loans, I'd consider getting the biggest loan I could. I sorta did that- was thinking it would be nice to pay it off, but truth is, you'll generally make more in an index fund than you pay in interest with these kind of rates.

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