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ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/4/08 9:24 a.m.

Going for an interview in Windsor Locks next week. The area, while expensive, has some things my wife wants. A Montessori magnet school down town is a big draw. She is AMI trained/certified.

I'll only be there for one day and won't have much time to really look around, so are there good things to do motorsports wise? Anything to watch out for?

My MBA is hammering down for closure in August and I'm slowly looking around. I gotta make a move in a year if I want to shift my career and be able to pay off these crazy loans. So, this interview fell into my lap, I'm not sure of the position, but the area and especially the company interest me. We'll see.....

So Help a brotha out... Is this a good place to live?

*Edit: Weather isn't an issue, I am moving from Charleston SC. However, My wife grew up in Rochester NY and I went to school there, so even CT would be a step up. ;-) While I don't want to leave Charleston so soon, I am at that place in my life, career, and age where I must go where market forces dictate... *

btw. Happy 4th.

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/4/08 9:35 a.m.

So your going to go into insurance?

I don't know anyone who lives there but there are a couple members here from CT that my help. Motorsports wise you are about 1.5 hours from Lime Rock, and about an hour or so from a few circle tracks, Stafford springs, Thompson, about two hours from Waterford.

I can't think of anything in CT that would drag me up from South Carolina

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/4/08 9:37 a.m.
Wall-e wrote: I can't think of anything in CT that would drag me up from South Carolina

How about a 40% raise?

There are pluses and minuses to everything. Trust me.. I moved from Philly and saw the good of this place immeadiately and will miss it, but with family and friends in the North east.. The bouncing souls said it best

Bouncing Souls said:You may think we're weather martyr's but snow and ice makes us rock harder punkers should be pale and pasty the pizza here is fierce and tasty East Coast! Berkeley You! we go out west and play some shows then we know it's time to go. Pack the truck and head on back, New York's better and that's a fact

I am kinda screwed though, wife wants kids and to be near parents, atleast one set. So that means Wash-Boston Megalopolis or Chicago area. uggh.

Sonic
Sonic New Reader
7/4/08 9:38 a.m.

Windsor Locks is better than Hartford, and you can live north of there in some very pretty country and have some space around you, and it is pretty nice in general.

Hartford itself is pretty bad.

As for motorsports, there is CART, running AutoXes in CT, tons of clubs running track days at Lime Rock, which is pretty close, NHIS, Watkins Glen, and further away at Summit Point and BeaveRun.

There are many worse places to live, I wouldn't mind it there...not far to the mountains or ocean or airports, etc...

Stargazer
Stargazer HalfDork
7/4/08 11:02 a.m.

I lived in Hartford, right out of the downtown area, for a year. I personally hated living there, and moved when my lease was up. The downtown area is nice, but the surrounding parts of the city are just depressing.

I would look into some of the surrounding towns which are much nicer. If you'll be working in Windsor Locks, look for a house up there someplace.

Woodyhfd
Woodyhfd GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/4/08 12:10 p.m.

You are MUCH closer to Lime Rock that an hour and a half. Probably less than 30 minutes on some great roads. Not far from Stafford Motor Speedway, either.

Less than 3 hours from New Hampshire Motor Speedway and Pocono Raceway.

You won't want to live IN Hartford, but there are many nice communities in the surrounding area.

Check out the Connecticut Autocross and Rally Team. http://www.cartct.com/index1.shtml

And Sportscar Driving Association http://www.scda1.com/

Buy your gas across the Massachusetts line and buy your beer before 9 pm and before Sunday.

Go Huskies!

bludroptop
bludroptop Dork
7/4/08 12:20 p.m.

Without writing a book, I'll try to add some insight here. I lived in central and eastern Connecticut for 25 years, moved there to go to UConn and stayed. Mrs. BDT grew up there. Finally left 10 years ago to move 400 or so miles south. I go back there at least twice a year on business and to visit friends - I don't really think things have changed much.

First of all, there are some really nice aspects to the area. Once you get outside of the urban centers, most of the area is very pretty - sometimes postcard pretty. There is some suburban sprawl but there are lots of areas that are semi-rural. Location is everything and there are dramatic differences between one small town to the next. Affordability will definitely be a challenge to land yourself in one of the more desireable towns - Avon, Farmington, Glastonbury are all out of sight. Windsor and Windsor Locks are bedroom communities - more suburban and somewhat more affordable. Suffield and East Windsor are less densely populated.

There are still lots of ethnic cohesion in certain areas. The south end of Hartford has a big Italian community, lots of Polish people in New Britian, and I could go on - but I'll be careful here. Multi-generational families still live within walking distance of one another in many parts of the state. The best part of this is the food opportunities. Italian bakeries, Jewish delis, etc. The thing we miss most about Connecticut is the food: pastries, pizza, bagels, Jamacian, and so on.

Keep in mind that there are 168 or so separate towns in the state and each has its own separate government. There is no county government at all and everything - schools, police, garbage collection, library, etc. is done at the town level. This means significant variation in levels of service from one town to the next - so be choosy about where you settle. It also means high property taxes because there are no efficiencies of scale.

Culturally, the Hartford area isn't bad. There are good museums, concerts, shows and LOTS of history in the area. Plus, both New York and Boston are relatively easy day trips.

Recreation is also good. The mountains are close by for hiking and camping, as is the LI Sound for boating, swimming, fishing and seafood. Excellent fly fishing nearby. If you like to ski, you can be in southern Vermont in less than 90 minutes. If you like casinos, there are two really fancy ones an hour away.

Autosports - I'll let others with more current information weigh-in but of course Lime Rock is close by and I believe they do a 24 of Lemons at Stafford.

So what's the downside? Well, you've already identified a couple of issues. Cost of living is very high - not just housing but everything! The first few winters will be fun because of the novelty, but then they start to wear you down. Put the heat on in September and don't plan on opening the windows again until May. Light, powdery snow is nice. Wet, heavy snow - not so much. Wet heavy snow, change to rain, change back to snow and then drop 20 degrees and freeze solid as an ice cube... you can have it!

Package stores close at 8 pm and are closed on Sunday. You can't by beer, wine or liquor except in a bar after 8.

Also, we found that the people are hard to warm up to as well. I lived across the street from a guy for 5 years and never once did we have a conversation beyond "how ya' doing - crappy weather, huh?"

The cities themselves are not very nice and can be dangerous if you stray into the wrong parts. If you are familiar with Philly, Hartford, New Haven and Bridgeport will be deja vu all over again.

I know plenty of folks who have lived there their entire lives and would not THINK of going anywhere else. I also know plenty of folks there who have never BEEN anyplace else.

During your visit - get a good thin crust pizza from an Italian joint (not a thick crust Greek pizza, still good but not the same). Get a cannoli - preferably from someplace where they don't speak very good English. Get a lobster roll if you can. Go back to the Greek place, tell them you still don't want a pizza but ask them to make you an eggplant grinder.

Take Rte 75 north from the airport up to the Mass border. It is only about a 20 minute drive - it is a good basic idea of what the area can offer.

Have fun and good luck with your interview.

carzan
carzan New Reader
7/4/08 12:53 p.m.

If you live in Hartford, you are only about half an hour away from the Springfield, MA Harbor Freight...If you live in Windsor Locks, even less! It's the IMPORTANT things, ya know?

oldopelguy
oldopelguy HalfDork
7/4/08 6:25 p.m.

Thanks to our mutual uncle (Sam) I had an opportunity to live in both Charleston and CT, one right after the other. Growing up in the midwest I really didn't like either of them, but much prefered CT. I lived almost within sight of the coast, and the Atlantic did a pretty good job of tempering the winters to within a few degrees of freezing at it's coldest.

I hated a lot of the same things about both locations, though, so if you're used to them already then they won't seem so wierd. Things like: -No road ever goes from where you are to where you want to go. GPS says something is 9 miles away, it might take a 35 mile and 1 hour drive to get there. -Property taxes, every year, on cars, and not a couple bux either but a substantial amount. State income tax, as well. They don't have those sorts of things in SD. -Blue laws, who thinks they actually help anything anyway?

CT was great from a GRM-er standpoint though, plenty of dirt track racing, lots of top-tier motor builders, great autocross support. Add to it that flying in and out of Bradley was so much less expensive that most surrounding airports that I even drove over to fly out of there while living in NY a couple times.

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/5/08 1:40 a.m.
ignorant wrote: How about a 40% raise? I am kinda screwed though, wife wants kids and to be near parents, atleast one set. So that means Wash-Boston Megalopolis or Chicago area. uggh.

The 40% won't go to far with the cost of housing, and heat. If it will make the wife happy though that is a big pluse, and why I am where I am. I talked to some people from Windsor Locks at the train stationtonight and they pretty much said the same thing. There are some very nice towns outside of Hartford, but the city itself isn't a very good place to live. They said to do some research before ploping down money on a house that seems like a great deal. Good luck with the interview.

minimac
minimac Dork
7/5/08 10:30 a.m.
Wall-e wrote:The 40% won't go to far with the cost of housing, and heat. If it will make the wife happy though.....

The pay will be a wash. However, making Mrs. Iggy happy is priceless. She'd be 6 hours from family in Rochacah so that can be a big plus. Give it a shot....nothing ventured, nothing gained. Get a good generator though, because when the ice storm comes(and it will) and knocks out the power, it off for weeks.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/5/08 11:00 a.m.
minimac wrote:
Wall-e wrote:The 40% won't go to far with the cost of housing, and heat. If it will make the wife happy though.....
The pay will be a wash. However, making Mrs. Iggy happy is priceless. She'd be 6 hours from family in Rochacah so that can be a big plus. Give it a shot....nothing ventured, nothing gained. Get a good generator though, because when the ice storm comes(and it will) and knocks out the power, it off for weeks.

Yeah If we move up north, I'll buy one before I go.. I get a discount @ onan now.

Her family moved to chicago. Mine is in Philly.

Pay better not be a wash, cause she wants to have kids and no worky for her. I'm about to get on that change jobs every 2 years machine to jack up the salary to pay for potential kiddies and school loans

gamby
gamby SuperDork
7/5/08 4:51 p.m.

West Hartford is pretty nice. Plenty of typical middle/upper-middle class neighborhoods to be found therein.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/6/08 8:12 a.m.

we'll see Friday I guess. Thanks for the info folks.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/12/08 3:19 p.m.

OK.. So its beautiful area.

company is in Windsor Locks, Toured East Granby and Granby.. Geez super nice.

But.. I had a fever Weds night into thursday and was hella sick with a sinus infection.. Still am pretty banged up. So.. Who knows how it went. HA!

Anyway, nice area of the world. I don't think I would mind living there.

Chris_V
Chris_V SuperDork
7/12/08 3:34 p.m.

My wife is from Meriden/Middletown (actually Lake Besick, where her folks still have a house on the lake, and it's around the corner from a nice ski resort in the winter), a bit southeast of Hartford, and my stepson's dad still works in Hartford and lives in Rocky Hill, so we're up there quite a bit. That's a good area to live in and still within a decent commute to where you're working. Stay away from the coasts and West Hartford, and the cost of home ownership isn't that bad. Fuel is a bit expensive, however, with a bit more added taxes.

bluedroptop pretty much described everything you need to know, though.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
2/5/09 5:32 p.m.

Hey remember this thread..

I'll be in CT this June.. If all works out..

weird.

Grew up in Philly... Went to school in Upstate NY.. Guess I gotta get used to winters again.

11110000
11110000 New Reader
2/5/09 7:09 p.m.

Welcome!

If you see a Volvo 240 with racing numbers on the door and fire spitting out of the exhaust pipe, that's just me.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/5/09 7:30 p.m.

Where in CT?

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
2/5/09 8:18 p.m.

Hartford for a month then.. i get an assignment.

914Driver
914Driver Dork
2/6/09 6:27 a.m.

There's plenty of Auto-X at Ft. Devens, not far away. The only other thing I know of Windsor Locks is a Navy training facility for nuclear technicians.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ner-scca-ft-devens-autocross-z06/598037152

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
2/6/09 7:02 a.m.

cool thanks..

I'll be at downtown Hartford first.. Then.. we'll see.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/6/09 9:55 a.m.

Let us know when you're up here. We can throw some meat on the grill and argue in person

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/6/09 10:01 a.m.
ignorant wrote: Hey remember this thread.. I'll be in CT this June.. If all works out.. weird. Grew up in Philly... Went to school in Upstate NY.. Guess I gotta get used to winters again.

Where'd you go to school? I'm a recent Upstate NY transplant. Away from, not to.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
2/6/09 10:05 a.m.

RIT really western NY rochester.

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