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Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/13/20 3:56 p.m.

In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :

I guess my point was you don't want to do required regulatory cleaning (if cleaning becomes required above and beyond what is already necessary of public spaces). You do want to do above and beyond extra special luxury cleaning for those who can afford it. Because the company has extra special luxury cleaning and customer handling skills. 

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
5/13/20 4:04 p.m.
SVreX said:

I know. In some ways this seems like a terrible time. Maybe that's why I want to do it. 

For more than a decade I've wanted to build a company that was not tied to a specific geographic area, and whose product could be shipped. Probably small manufacturing.

My background is construction. 40 years worth. I am more knowledgeable  at the wood trades than the metal trades. I have owned several businesses. 
 

Sure, it would be great to have a company tied to healthcare, or technology. Those seem to be solidly recession-proof. But that's not my skill set, and I think I would chase that down a bottomless rabbit hole.

I want a company with some underutilized  production capacity. Most companies have this- if nothing else, the equipment could be used during a 2nd shift. 
 

I'm picturing a company with an existing client base, and a small existing production staff where the owner is ready to retire, and some of the sales methods could be modernized to open new markets. 
 

Any ideas?

I know of a pretty sweet Art Gallery/Custom Picture Framing shop for sale in Blue Ridge!!!

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/14/20 6:06 a.m.

In reply to poopshovel again :

You're selling?

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/17/20 8:12 p.m.

Outsourced canoes are a bad idea and should be sunk. 

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
5/18/20 7:41 a.m.
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to poopshovel again :

You're selling?

Yessur. I thought we talked about it when you were up? Shoot me a text (regardless.)

pheller
pheller UltimaDork
5/18/20 11:31 a.m.

Man the media/film industry is such an unknown. How does a crime scene/death bed cleanup company get into the film industry? 

I stayed at an AirBNB in Albuquerque and talked with the owner, he said he had rented out for two months straight to a woman working in film prior to our arrival. The AirBNB owner was thinking of making his spot a "word of mouth" rental for the film industry. 

I've met other people who worked in that industry. Sounds adventurous. Lots of travel to interesting places, but usually working around people you know. Long days, but then you might get a few weeks off at a time between gigs. 

Suprising number of people got into it in the wierd ways that the Crime Scene Cleanup business made the transition - they did something else, got called up by someone in a production company, and before long they're making good money doing something they never dreamed of. 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
5/18/20 5:04 p.m.

https://duluth.craigslist.org/reo/d/isabella-old-machine-shop-hunting-shack/7118706404.html

 

This is about as remote as it gets..  If it's in Embarass, it's like the nearly the coldest place in Minnesota.. but could be the right place to just get away from everything....  

mtn (Forum Supporter)
mtn (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/18/20 5:13 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:

https://duluth.craigslist.org/reo/d/isabella-old-machine-shop-hunting-shack/7118706404.html

 

This is about as remote as it gets..  If it's in Embarass, it's like the nearly the coldest place in Minnesota.. but could be the right place to just get away from everything....  

And basically already in the Boundary Waters.  Looks like about an hour to the tow point/outfitter.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/20 8:03 p.m.
pheller said:

Man the media/film industry is such an unknown. How does a crime scene/death bed cleanup company get into the film industry? 

I stayed at an AirBNB in Albuquerque and talked with the owner, he said he had rented out for two months straight to a woman working in film prior to our arrival. The AirBNB owner was thinking of making his spot a "word of mouth" rental for the film industry. 

I've met other people who worked in that industry. Sounds adventurous. Lots of travel to interesting places, but usually working around people you know. Long days, but then you might get a few weeks off at a time between gigs. 

Suprising number of people got into it in the wierd ways that the Crime Scene Cleanup business made the transition - they did something else, got called up by someone in a production company, and before long they're making good money doing something they never dreamed of. 

  In L.A., crime scene cleanup and set consulting are pretty much hand in hand.  Who better to recreate a crime scene than someone who cleans them up daily?

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/21/20 1:03 p.m.
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Robbie (Forum Supporter) :

I'm not sure I agree about whether it's necessary or not...

There are gonna be businesses that say, "That's a luxury- we can't afford that". I suggest that they can't afford NOT to.

Winning back the confidence of consumers and customers is gonna take a LOT of effort. Businesses are gonna have to work at it, and spend money at it.  Those that don't will not survive.

There will be a 2nd wave of COVID 19.  When there is, regulatory overseers are gonna step in and begin REQUIRING businesses to have assurances of their cleanliness.  It won't be optional.

I don't think COVID response and cleaning will be a luxury.  It will be a business necessity.

Having said that, I also don't think COVID response is a business unto itself, and it's not a business I want to be in.  It's a path through this mess for a company like this, and COVID response will continue to be a part of the fabric of what this company will have to do from here forward.

COVID jobs can help cash flow now.  Later when film industry work does start coming back, COVID deep cleaning and disinfecting will be part of what this company has to do on every movie set as a part of routine protocol.

Spitballing here.

You clean a place, say a shoe store, and the owner puts your blue diamond-shaped logo on their door; something that brings to mind official chemical warnings like on trailers. Not too big, but it's visible and lets everyone know that the insides of this place are clean/safe. This would be for like routine "deep" cleaning. I suppose it could all work for infection-confirmed places too with some tweaking.

Next step: Via advertisements, make it known that you take things seriously and your logo's presence is the standard for clean/safe stores. It seems like you might be able to generate a demand for your product by marketing it similarly to how the CC companies marketed against checks a few years back, remember those ads where the whole store was jamming to music and then someone goes to pay by check and the music scratches to a halt? Except more serious and more fear-based. Make your symbol the new gold standard for cleanliness. Imply that any biz without it was cleaned by the stock boys with a bottle of windex vs. your 3M suit warriors.

Since this isn't a one and done cleaning, maybe you timestamp or color code by week so ppl know when it was done (AKA generate an ongoing revenue stream of recleaning).

And I know you said that C19 cleaning isn't your main focus but if you're going to make something your main moneymaker so you can pursue other things, you're going to have to intently focus on it at some point.

 

EDITED for clarity.

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/21/20 2:21 p.m.

In reply to P3PPY :

I think your spitball hit the bullseye.
 

Thank you. 

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/22/20 7:33 a.m.

In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :

Well here's the next level then. Deep cleaning after the fact isn't preventative and really, even after you clean a store, one sick person can widely infect surfaces like the cleaning never happened. So maybe look into proactive solutions. High air circulation is supposed to help, esp with HEPA filters. Right before smoking in restaurants became passe there were restaurants that installed these amazing air filtration systems so you couldn't smell the smoke in the place. Something like that. FWIW all this surface cleaning is only fighting the B team anyway since it appears that most infections are from airborne and I read a month back that there were not yet any proved infections from surface contact, though it's definitely possible.

Along those lines, consider a scheduled cycle of a UV flash in the store, lock down the store for a few minutes and hit it with UVB or C. In lab tests 2 minutes with sunlight plus 70% humidity kills viruses dead.

Again, the most important part of this is your branding and your company logo that doubles as the aforementioned safe/clean logo that everyone is going to want. Shoot, when you've gotten enough saturation you can even do a location search on your site or phone app so ppl will know where to shop safely.

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