Not sure if it's been mentioned here but Chernobyl runs out of backup diesel by Friday morning. Russian shelling took out the power grid supplying it and it is running on backup generators to prevent it from becoming a regional hazard. Again.
Not sure if it's been mentioned here but Chernobyl runs out of backup diesel by Friday morning. Russian shelling took out the power grid supplying it and it is running on backup generators to prevent it from becoming a regional hazard. Again.
If Chenobyl blows the berk up, Russia is downwind of it. <shrugs>
Russians took out a Children's hospital. They bombed a hospital, for Children. Children.
I really hope that we have a Seal Team 6 or Delta Squad plan in the works to take out Putin now. This was never going to be OK, but they've crossed straight into terrorism without any attempt to even pretend differently.
FJ40Jim said:If Chenobyl blows the berk up, Russia is downwind of it. <shrugs>
so if we mix Chernobyl with the bioweapons labs we might just get zombies
EDIT: this is a joke.
Error404 said:Not sure if it's been mentioned here but Chernobyl runs out of backup diesel by Friday morning. Russian shelling took out the power grid supplying it and it is running on backup generators to prevent it from becoming a regional hazard. Again.
With absolutely no power attached, the spent fuel rods will raise the temp of the coolant to ~70°C. It physically cannot melt down anymore than it has at this point in history.
Mr_Asa said:Error404 said:Not sure if it's been mentioned here but Chernobyl runs out of backup diesel by Friday morning. Russian shelling took out the power grid supplying it and it is running on backup generators to prevent it from becoming a regional hazard. Again.
With absolutely no power attached, the spent fuel rods will raise the temp of the coolant to ~70°C. It physically cannot melt down anymore than it has at this point in history.
Not saying it will melt down, the article I read made that clear but the IAEA did say (I believe) that without power it could become a regional hazard.
As for the childrens hospital, it was also a maternity hospital. Maybe they were nazis and/or drug addicts that Putin warned us about? Or maybe the pilot mistook the hospital for a nuclear power plant? (/sarcasm)
This time of year, the wind tends to blow N / NE from Chernobyl which puts Moscow ~500 miles down wind.
jharry3 said:... I think the only thing that will stop Putin is death. Natural or otherwise.
Thinking of Putin like other egotistical tough-guys. Powerful men like that don't like to admit they made mistakes, but when they do get into unwinnable situations, they generally like to find a way to back out.
I see one of two possibilities: Either Putin has surrounded himself with sycophants afraid to tell him anything other than what he wants ("Yes dear leader! Our glorious armies make measured but steady progress! Victory is just around the corner!") and he doesn't realize what a crap situation he's in; or he realizes that he's screwed up and gotten himself in over his head. My money is on the latter.
If that is the case, he's looking for an out, but he's looking for one he can spin as a win. He doesn't need to achieve his original objective. He just needs to achieve *something* and then *claim* that was his plan all along.
Putin doesn't care about broad public opinion, but is answerable to the oligarchs backing him who are *really* unhappy about what this has done to their plans for making money.
My money is on, he pushes things in until the reach some sort of detente. Probably the generals change tactics and concentrate forces to take a smaller number of optically important objectives. A big city or something.
Once that is achieved, he does a big "Mission Accomplished" moment, and arranges a big thing with state media to hail him as a hero. Then he is persuaded to quietly retire with gratuitous amounts of money.
A new leader steps up and negotiates with western powers to do something symbolic that they were already planning to anyway. Secure assurances that Ukraine and Finland will not be inducted into NATO or something. Then quietly pull troops back.
I think this would be a great time for a full scale civil war in Russia. Maybe the boys are tired of dying for world domination that will never happen. Maybe the winner would be mature enough to sit at the adult's table for dinner.
In reply to llysgennad :
The winner wasn't the last two or three times.
Fun trivia: The Soviet higher ups didn't want to deal with Stalin because of his being kind of a thug, but kind of had to deal with him, so they gave him a fairly unimportant job: Secretary. Stalin realized that this meant he could decide who gets told about important meetings, so he could shape Party policy as he saw fit.
As before... "After five minutes the scum will rise to the top"
In reply to llysgennad :
I don't see a civil war happening. A coup, perhaps, but not a full-scale civil war where the average citizen would be involved or even all that affected. If there's one thing most modern government powers have learned in recent years, it's you don't have to make everyone happy... or even content. You just need to make the vast majority of them comfortable enough they aren't willing to die in order to affect change.
Some interesting tidbits:
UK confirms a "small number of soldiers" may have gone AWOL to fight in Ukraine. @BritishArmy spokesman: "We're aware of a small number of individual soldiers who have disobeyed orders & gone absent without leave, and may have traveled to Ukraine in a personal capacity"
Pentagon spokesman: Russia's large air capabilities have been reduced due to Ukrainian air defenses
CNN: a senior U.S. defense official says the "majority" of Ukraine's air fleet is still "intact and operable" adding the airspace over Ukraine remains "contested
Anyone have any perspective on the rather conspicuous lack of a stand by India?
I know they have historically used a good amount of Russian military equipment, although their current military is pretty much a hodge podge of different origin (especially the air force), with a good amount of domestic development.
An unconfirmed rumor is that the Japanese are about to sucker punch Russia to get control back of the Kuril Islands.
Has anyone also heard this?
In reply to aircooled :
I would imagine that India has plenty going on internally right now. I know that Covid has impacted them a lot harder than they officially let on, and they are not exactly friendly with a few of their own neighbors, one of which is China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Russia_relations
Relations have deteriorated recently due to India's anti-China stance. Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, accused the West of trying to undermine Russia's close partnership with India. He added that India is being used as an object by the Western powers.
"Just me and my world of enemies"..
QuasiMofo (John Brown) said:An unconfirmed rumor is that the Japanese are about to sucker punch Russia to get control back of the Kuril Islands.
Has anyone also heard this?
I saw a map that pointed out which islands were contested, beyond that nothing much though.
Dicktator Pootang is a lot of things, and idiot and crazy come first to mind, but he is neither insane nor suicidal. He will never use any nukes against us unless he thinks he is about to die and he knows that if he lets off one round, NATO will let him have it. I think that he is a lot more afraid of his own people than of us. He also has nothing to fear from NATO other than that we are growing tired of his and his fellow dictators causing havoc on a free world. I suspect that pretty soon, we will have enough stuff in place to enforce a no fly zone and then the same thing that happened to Muhammad Gaddafi or Sodomy Hussein in 1980 and his highway of death will happen to his bogged down column. I can't find the Yahoo.com news feed that describes NATO's military strength vs the Russians, but I believe it is about 3 to 1. He is nothing more than a paper bear.
My money is on China coming in as a bringer of peace, negotiating some kind of cease-fire and backing the Ruble with their gold in exchange for a favorable deal on all sorts of natural resources.
Just saw some articles that corruption in Russia is to blame for the lacking military strength as mentioned earlier in the thread. Contracts for items that were never made funding big boats and such by some of PutPut's friends.
Also some coverage of people in Russia being mad at the US brands who have been pulling out, McDonalds and Starbucks mentioned specifically. Seemed like they were still rather convinced Russia was still in the morally right faction.
bobzilla said:In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :
It's like a lot of things before other things. You can't comprehend it. At the time, the loss of global shipping was a huge issue
MAD could very well mean the extinction of the human species. The loss of global shipping is trivial by comparison.
Mr_Asa said:QuasiMofo (John Brown) said:An unconfirmed rumor is that the Japanese are about to sucker punch Russia to get control back of the Kuril Islands.
Has anyone also heard this?
I saw a map that pointed out which islands were contested, beyond that nothing much though.
My Google-fu hasn't turned up anything either. Although it is interesting Russia controls islands (and has visible air bases on them - per Google Maps) so close to Japan. I can see how Japan would want them. However, I can also see the US Govt putting a squash on the idea as well as any conflict between Russia and Japan would end up with US involvement with near certainty, due to our treaty relations with Japan.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:My Google-fu hasn't turned up anything either. Although it is interesting Russia controls islands (and has visible air bases on them - per Google Maps) so close to Japan. I can see how Japan would want them. However, I can also see the US Govt putting a squash on the idea as well as any conflict between Russia and Japan would end up with US involvement with near certainty, due to our treaty relations with Japan.
IIRC, they've flipped back and forth a few times between Japan and Russia over the last couple hundred years. Most recently, Russia/USSR took them from Japan in WW2.
I think the Japanese constitution disallows the kind of military action that they'd need to take them back now, a result of the US occupation at the end of WW2.
It seems Put#n has been dangling the possibility of a settlement on the dispute for a couple of Japanese PMs. This is mostly likely to keeping these oil projects on track. With sanctions the Japanese will be pull out. theislands aren't of an economic value, as I understand.
James Brown, an associate professor of international relations at Temple University:
"Nevertheless, Japan's Sakhalin Oil and Gas Development (SODECO) owns a 30 per cent stake in the Sakhalin-1 oil project, and Japanese trading firms, including Mitsui and Mitsubishi, have shares in the nearby Sakhalin-2 development. Japan is likely to come under increasing pressure to follow in the footsteps of a number of international energy firms, notably Shell and Exxon Mobil, which have announced that they are walking away from operations in Russia.
"Energy security is very sensitive in Tokyo, but as these other companies are pulling out of Russia, I think Japan will be under huge pressure to do likewise with the Sakhalin-1 and Sakhalin-2 projects," said Brown. Withdrawing that investment from Sakhalin, which is directly to the north of the disputed islands, is unlikely to endear the Japanese government to Moscow and will further harden resistance on the question of the future of the islands."
Any thoughts on this:
US Warns Russia May Use Biological Weapons In Ukraine
"The Kremlin is intentionally spreading outright lies that US and Ukraine are conducting chemical weapons activities in Ukraine," White House said.
"Now that Russia has made these false claims... we should all be on the lookout for Russia to possibly use chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, or to create a false flag operation using them,.
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