She has no clue.
How many places are there on a small pickup truck to hide a wheel and tire?
"I dunno, I was doing about 70 in the left lane and hit that big whoop by Exit 9 and I heard a funny noise. Next thing you know a wheel goes flying by me on the grass."
I looked, it was mine. Fords rust in funn spots.
Dan
See.. If you had a Brat, the spare would be nice and safe up under the hood... 
my BMW 318ti has the spare UNDER the trunk. You have to open the hatch and get into the underfloor tool holder.
Once you are there, you have to undo the big bowl that locks everything in position before you hook on the long T-Handle. Once you hare securely holding the T up to take most of the weight of the spare, you can release the spring clips and everything falls to the ground.
installation is the opposite of removal
My 4-Runner is similar. You put part of the jack handle through the rear bumper and unwind the tire to the ground. It's so rusty up there that a) it won't unwind and b) the wheel is oxidized tussue paper.
Hocrest wrote: See.. If you had a Brat, the spare would be nice and safe up under the hood...
They did that so your hands would be warm when changing the tire in the cold... duh!
Lancia and fiat did that.. The fiat 128/strada had the spare above the engine and the Montecarlo/Scorpion had it in the rear compartment with the engine
Yugo is also the same
I once spent quite a while, in the shop, on a hoist, trying to locate the spare tire on a Honda Odyssey van. It was there, but without a book, you'd never find it, and if you found it, you'd not get it out.
On the newer dodge minivans it's up front, between the driver and passenger footwells. There's a little plug you have to jack into in the floor to lower it... It's how they get the big well in the back to fold the seats flat...
I noticed that the last time I rented a minivan.
Have to wonder how many people can even change tyres anymore?
My 911 has it stored in the nose right on the belly pan. Its uninflated. It comes with a little electric pump that is sure not to work after 20yrs. This topic has reminded me of the need to go put 2 cans of Fix-a-Flat in there instead.
mad_machine wrote: Lancia and fiat did that.. The fiat 128/strada had the spare above the engine and the Montecarlo/Scorpion had it in the rear compartment with the engine Yugo is also the same
Chevy did this with the Corvair also. Most people just threw them in the trunk afterward.
mad_machine wrote: Have to wonder how many people can even change tyres anymore?
Judging by the able bodied males I see watching tow-truck-guy change their flats on the side of the highway, I'd say not too many.
My 78 Malibu came with a deflated spare, and can of magic tire inflater.
Streetwiseguy wrote: I once spent quite a while, in the shop, on a hoist, trying to locate the spare tire on a Honda Odyssey van. It was there, but without a book, you'd never find it, and if you found it, you'd not get it out.
If you had it on the hoist you were never going to find it. Under the floor between the first and second rows, lift the panel up, fish out the hook on a bungee attached to it and hook that to the grab handle on the back of the driver's seat to hold the floor panel up juuussst enough to squeak the spare out. It's tight but I didn't find it too challenging to get the spare out on the 3 occasions I had to do it but there's no way you're going to get a flat (or a full size spare) into that tiny well.
that is some serious packaging...
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: My 911 has it stored in the nose right on the belly pan. Its uninflated. It comes with a little electric pump that is sure not to work after 20yrs. This topic has reminded me of the need to go put 2 cans of Fix-a-Flat in there instead.
The third gen IROC I parted came with an uninflated spare (the sidewals colapsed on themselves to save space I surmise...probably something to do with survival of the limited slip differential) and a can of air to inflate it with. Interesting...
Clem
I thought I remembered that the Citroen DS had its spare waaay at the front of the engine compartment, but then I second-guessed myself: how could that possibly work? Checking Google shows that I was right: that famous shark nose hides the spare, which (a) is beautifully accessible and (b) is stored at an angle so radiator air can slide up underneath it. Cool.
ClemSparks wrote:Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: My 911 has it stored in the nose right on the belly pan. Its uninflated. It comes with a little electric pump that is sure not to work after 20yrs. This topic has reminded me of the need to go put 2 cans of Fix-a-Flat in there instead.The third gen IROC I parted came with an uninflated spare (the sidewals colapsed on themselves to save space I surmise...probably something to do with survival of the limited slip differential) and a can of air to inflate it with. Interesting... Clem
The 944 is the same way, accept it came with the cigarette lighter powered air pump. Of course my pump is long gone, and even if it was there I'm not sure my cigarette lighter even works. Hope I don't get a flat!
Streetwiseguy wrote: I once spent quite a while, in the shop, on a hoist, trying to locate the spare tire on a Honda Odyssey van. It was there, but without a book, you'd never find it, and if you found it, you'd not get it out.
Probably why they put those accursed PAX wheel/tires on them.
My smart car has the spare....oh wait...nope, it doesn't have one.
Can of fix a flat and a 12v compressor are factory equipment. AAA card optional but recommended.
something about Nissan using different size lugnuts, but try finding a tire wrench in a Nissan in an Irish junkyard - good luck! the one from my 78 120y had to do double duty for the Sunny.
It is even better on trucks and suvs when they hide the jack.
One of the first things that I do when I get a "new" miata is to pull the spare tire out and hide it in the garage. Takes up way too much space and for the most part, when was the last time that you had a flat with a well-maintained car? If you have a problem, your cell phone is your best friend anyway. AAA or road service on your insurance is the answer.
No, no, no, no spares anymore. Certain sold-in-japan-only cars did not come with a spare. Open the hatch, open the 9"wide flap, and pull out the motor scooter! And they worked well. I rode one into the elevator at work, kept it running, elevator door opened up, rode it to my office. I did have an interesting conversation with the office manager about punctuality and office decorum.
triumph5 wrote: No, no, no, no spares anymore. Certain sold-in-japan-only cars did not come with a spare. Open the hatch, open the 9"wide flap, and pull out the motor scooter! And they worked well. I rode one into the elevator at work, kept it running, elevator door opened up, rode it to my office. I did have an interesting conversation with the office manager about punctuality and office decorum.
Pics or it didn't happen
Clarkson did that with a micro car once.
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