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Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
9/11/10 4:25 p.m.

I was across the road from the airport in Allentown, PA - in a boardroom with a window facing the runway. Before the meeting someone had said something about a plane hitting the WTC. In my mind it was one of those 80 million single engine Cessna jobs that are flying over the river all day and I didn't think much of it.

So... half way thru the meeting we notice planes all in a holding patten - sky is full of them. They are landing like one every 3 minutes. This is not that busy of an airport. We try CNN.com... can't get on. Same with all the news websites... they are smoked but we get a page with a picture of a smoking Pentagon. I called my wife ( a couple other guys do the same... ) and we piece the story together enough to get that some heavy E36 M3 is happening but nobody can confirm anything at all. While all this speculation is going on, three set of three military jets fly by in formation, we presume from Willow Grove AFB. Holy berkeley! That was the clincher. We just dropped everything and left work to hit the Applebees across the street so we could watch a TV. We got there just as the whole scope of the thing was becoming clear to everyone, DC, Western PA and all. It was surreal. It was mobbed with most of the office park just standing and staring at the wall of TVs behind the bar but the place was silent as a tomb.

toad9977
toad9977 New Reader
9/11/10 4:28 p.m.

I was in 8th grade at the time, we were just sitting down in my social studies class to watch a video we had started the last class and abc news was on before our teacher had put in the video. I know the class was pretty much quiet the rest of the period, I don't remember anyone saying much, especially the teachers. We had class the rest of the day but I don't remember much of it.

I think the moment that sticks out in my head the most is when I was on my way to football practice that afternoon I saw a plane flying in a circular pattern. It was kind of a weird feeling to see that especially knowing that there wasn't any air travel.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
9/11/10 4:29 p.m.

Received 9/14/01 3:43PM

We have procured the key tags.

thanks to all"

"When they hit my towers i defiantly said "you hit them but you didn't bring them down, you bastards".

When the first tower came down i defiantly said "you may have brought down one, but you didn't take them both, you bastards".

we face the same situation here about freedom and civilization. This is the most difficult mission any empire has been charged to do. We can not be in denial.

I am frightened that our leadership is young and inexperienced. Dubya, Hillary, Schumer, Powell. can they rise to the occaision?

yes my generation is in charge and we are capable, energetic, and understand the responsibility. With regards to uglyness we face, we're young, inexperienced, naieve, shallow and soft.

Oh to have the luxury of an FDR, a Churchill, a jacob javits, a thurgood marshall.

mr elder bush, mrs elder bush, pat moynahan, mario cuomo, jimmuh carter, gerry ford please stand close and guide us with your vastly greater experience and long view. You can't leave us to feel our way through this on our own. We need your help, please let us know you're here?

Thank you mr cheney. your interview from camp david this morning let me know you have your hand firmly on the tiller and you understand what the issues are and what we need to do.

This is the biggest challenge with the biggest stakes in the history of the world. this can't be won with something as simple as a military victory as in WWII which was bought and paid for with overwhelming force at a ghastly price. The type of failure we had in vietnam would doom generations of our children to live with hate filling their lives, unacceptable.

These bastards tried to fill my heart and mind with hatred and bigotry. They actually got a foothold. But I will not hold their bag of E36 M3.

We're all guilty. We smugly walked up to the counters with our e-tickets and answered the two questions about packing our bags to the ticket agents. We hire minimum wage gate officers and probably give them no training at all. We paid lip service to security while knowing full well we were trading security for convienience. We pretended to be vigilant. This could have been avoided if we had just done just one of the many things that ELAL has been doing since the 1960's.

What a ghastly price to pay. Blood on our hands today for sure. Hate in our hearts for generations to come if we fail. Fear and grief around the world.

Everybody is nice in New York City lately. I always claimed it was the FREINDLIEST place on earth, but no-one had the time to be really nice or polite, the niceties, before. The entire island is going to have to turn in its New Yawkuh Passports if it stays like this. I think it is indicative of the pain we feel. If one more person on the street is polite or nice to me i think i'll scream.

I woke up with a horrible headache yesterday at the base of my skull and fought it all day while I did a full day of work and tried to prop up the disappointment and morale of my friend and employee. Today has started better."

"Watch the videos, the new yorkers running from the collapse didn't trample each other like wild animals or 'mourners' at the ayotollahs funeral. One of the most heart warming images I saw was an asian man and a black man, both civilians, running back into danger to pick up and virtually carry an obese white man, a stranger, to safety. Examples like this are the rule. I have not seen one exception.

I am confident because i've seen the best come out in new york, the country and the planet.

Heroism is ordinary here.

It is best this act of hate happened to new york, not elsewhere. An act like this can bring down civilization. We will deal with it. I am confident.

we will bury our dead we will mourn our loss and theirs we will act in an extrodinary manner we will clean up the mess we will rebuild

I am confident.

listen to what we say and watch what we do"

"9/18/2001 #12 Happy Rosh Hashona Happy new year yantif tov

There is still a plume of smoke. not perceptibly less than yesterday.

The winds were light again last nite, which covers the village with the pall. I'm noticing when this happens I wake up with a headache, and my friend downstairs voice rasps.

The image of hundreds of years old tombstones in the church cemetary littered with debris is kinda stuck in my head. Along with 'God Bless America'. Since I'm a devout agnostic, I find it quite irritating.

I had hoped to avoid trivial political battles and just put forth how it

feels to live through this. But politics makes strange bedfellows. It is exhausting and I must be 'off' or I wouldn't have wasted my time. I generally follow the Murphy's law corolary: "never argue with an idiot, people may not be able to tell the difference and you give credibility to the idiot".

Misdirected anger, we'll be seeing a lot of that.

I don't care.  Apathy, we'll be seeing a lot of that too.

I don't really feel like writing today.  Depression.

A dear friend of mine said "when the elephant is in the middle of the

living room, ignoring it won't make it go away". denial. We will see a lot of people doing just that, till the revisionists come and tell us it didn't really happen, or it wasn't that bad, or we deserved it, or we must protect their civil rights until AFTER they commit the crime.

Things are trying to be normal. They have made it to ground zero and the images are coming out.

A section of parking garage with 10 cars in it, all with a window smashed and the headlight switches still on, no bodies. Vandalism, I think (denial? normalcy?), no someone using the lights of the cars to find an escape. Here is another sucessful escape story. Sometimes it's good when you don't find bodies.

All 7th avenue in front of St Vincents is completely open now. The pictures of missing are still taped to the outside walls. Hopefully the forecast rain will help to get rid of them and other 'dogooder' signs around that no-one has the heart to take down. The reporters and camera's that were manned and waiting for the victims to arrive are gone today. Maybe they went over to the ice hockey rink at the chelsea piers where the morgue is setup.

The economic ripples are already affecting the city. You'll feel them soon.

Ashcroft has setup federal government powers so that he can throw non-citizens out of the country without review. Even yesterday I would have been vocal and vociferous against such a thing. With our own citizens defending free speech rights of visitors while insisting on censoring me, I think it may be for the best. Throwing out non-citizens without review will just have to be their sacrifice. A small one compared to so many of ours. I will pick and choose my fights carefully, I only have so many hours in the day and so much energy. Perhaps I won't even raise my voice to other things I vociferously object to.

And the news from the talibans is they will stall us. It's our move.

Do we convert to Islam?

When they use the word peace it does not have the same meaning as when we say peace. We better make sure exactly what gets lost in the translation.

I am willing to sacrifice far more today than I did 9 days ago. I have less to lose."

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
9/11/10 4:31 p.m.

"10/11/01

The world is different.

what is normal is that it is still smoking.

one full month after the attack

it's almost normal that the #3uptown express has become a shuttle on the

downtown express track at 14th street. It used to run from the bronx through manhattan to brooklyn. Now it runs uptown on the downtown express track starting at my stop, 14th street. Sometimes it makes local stops, sometimes express. Today it stopped at 34th street, an announcement came on, "this train is out of service, no uptown train service on any line, that is all." So I walk 2.5 miles to work.

The NYC Subway system is a marvel. It has been running fast, reliably, like a well oiled machine for 100 years, that's 5 generations, one more generation than I knew. We used to get upset when they held a train for 3 minutes, now I don't get upset when I have to walk most of the way after waiting for the train. The subway is the great equalizer. just as there were afghanistani's and pakistanis delivering morning cawfee in the towers, there were 7 digit income bond traders drinking it, The subway carries an incredible diversity of people, all colors, beliefs, income levels. My city provides the economic grease that reaches further than the gentleman in kansas who sits there believing he's safe and said even nuking new york wouldn't really make much of a difference. It was only an office complex. No clue. I find no solace that his economic grease is drying up as I write.

There is anthrax in florida. %17 of all of the anthrax cases in the last 102 years, as long as the subway has been running, over 5 generations, have appeared in florida.

maybe mad cow disease is next?

how much more damage do we allow to be inflicted upon us before we decide that war has been thrust upon us?

I am afraid to ride the subway.  I ride it, I will continue to ride it,  I

am afraid.

Our attackers are men of their word.  Listen to what they say, watch what

they do. Each US embassy bombing, each of which took as much innocent life as the oklahoma city bombing, was preceeded by a videotape, like the one we saw the other night, as was the attack on the USS cole.

My president told me tonite that I should take comfort that the government

is doing everything they can.

There was no wind this evening.  One Month Later the pall made it

difficult to breath. The stench of death and destruction was the worst since the attack. It was choking bad tonite until the north wind came gently in around 10:30pm and slowly pushed back the pall. It's not like body odor or bad breath, It's not a stink you get used to in a minute or two. It's a stench that has a sharp edge in the deepest recesses of your sinuses and nasal passages. it makes your skin itch. you can not and do not get used to it. For my friend with asthma, it IS a biological attack.

It's demoralizing.

our planes are putting on a show in the mideast. they return still full of ordinance because they have run out of targets. The police clog the traffic over our bridges, but their searches are ineffective. I have yet to be searched, just made to wait for hours in what used to take minutes.

A loon kicked down a cockpit door and was restrained by passengers, Had I been there I would not have restrained him, I would have reached down his throat and ripped his heart out through his mouth with my bare hands. Clear and present danger. Does anyone believe that taking nail clippers away from honest airline passengers will really make things safer?! We should be arming ourselves.

I listen to what they say and I watch what they do. Bush or ben loudin? who do you believe?

            I am afraid.

thousands of innocents murdered in cold blood in a sneak attack. The pentagon attacked, but for the courage of individual humans, civilians, on plane #4 our leadership in washington would have been decimated. The intelligencia says the attack is our fault, we must understand them, bring them to justice, apply our blessings of liberty to them, educate them, feed them.

              Clear and present danger.

They are in denial. What part of the on-going attacks that have occurred and what they say to us do you not understand? It is not our fault, we did not bring the war to them, they forced war upon us. How many more innocents must we sacrifice to the zealots before we begin to act effectively?

it's become almost normal that police have both ends of 10th street (where

their police station is) blockaded and are searching peoples bags before they will let them walk down the sidewalk. The police are certainly being effective keeping themselves safe, and so they should.

            clear and present danger.

it's become almost normal that power stations are being held defensively

by similarly complacent security guards. Does anyone really believe that a few orange cones and a few policemen eating donuts are going to protect our critical infrastructure? Their throats could be slit with a box cutter from behind while they doze, like the first class passenger on plane #4.

It's almost normal that New Jersey State Troopers are patroling my streets.

It's NOT almost normal that the towers are missing.  As I had said

earlier, I never really gave them much thought, it was the empire state building and the chrysler building that shouted out New York to me. But the towers ARE missing, they framed NYC. We mourn people, a place is only a place. But I find myself mourning the towers and what they represented and the things they represent that we are yet unaware of.

there is so much missing that it boggles the mind to even begin to take

inventory. Every day for weeks now the Newsday is THICK with obits, It boggles the mind. When will the pages upon pages of faces of the prematurely murdered stop looking out of the paper?

It was horrific that people were kept out of their homes in battery city

park for weeks by the police.

    clear and present danger.

when they were allowed back in they found that their homes were not only systematically looted, but that the looters were actually living there and sleeping in their beds for a while.

I went to vote in the primaries, defiantly.  More New Yorkers voted in

this primary than in the past 12 years worth. A worthy statement from 'the people' of The City.

Rudy, who has been doing a sensitive, decent job of managing the

emergency made his play to stay in office beyond his legal term. We knew he was going to give that a try long before the attack occurred.

The broadcast antenna was atop tower 1. when the tower was bombed 8 years ago broadcast media channel 2, cbs, was the only station that had continued to maintain it's broadcast from the empire state building's antenna. Everyone else went out with the tower. The other channels swore they would never let it happen again. Now in 2001, channel 2 is the ONLY station that has been broadcasting because they continued to maintain their antenna on the ESB. When held to my standard of listen what they say and watch what they do, channel 2 seems to be the only ones with some type of intelligence and integrity. 8 years ago it was a and a huge financial loss that ABC, NBC, FOX, PIX, WOR couldn't reach it's home audience through broadcast. One month later, still only CBS is broadcasting. If you have an antenna, you get one channel. This is NOT normal.

Since the subway ran so flawlessley for 100 years, we got down to the real problems. Bad announcements, so NY bought new subway cars that are slowly being phased in. One month and one day ago you new EXACTLY what train was running on what track and what stops it would make. Nothing could ever disrupt that. These new trains are really kewl. They have an electronic map that shows where you are, where you're going, digital readouts, bright lights, great air conditioning, loud and clear automated canned announcement. They really were progress. Too bad no-one ever considered that the electronics would be rendered useless when the uptown #3 runs on the downtown #2 track.

A lot has been made of the terrorist that went to the tittie bar. In our american way of thinking we like to think he was hypocritical, getting his ya ya's out his last night alive and we vilify him for that though it was an innocent act. I think he was reinforcing his reason for performing his act against the infidel. I think the tittie bar made him angry and increased his resolve.

Yesterday a Saudi Prince came to ground zero. National news is carefully editing these clips. I saw it.

Without spin: The saudi prince gave rudy a check for 10 million dollars and then made a political statement through his personal press secretary. He made no expression of condolence, sympathy or empathy. Rudy refused the check. The saudi prince said 'he made a big mistake refusing my check'.

MY OPINION:

I applaud Rudy, He spoke for me.

The saudi prince took the equivalent of a single penny (of our money) out

of his pocket and tossed it to the city of New York. Standing on the smoldering grave of our murdered innocents, most of their murderers citizens of saudi arabia, blamed the US while taking no responsibility for his own citizens and people. Saudi Arabia has refused to seize assests of the terrorists.

To be kind: it is inappropriate for the saudi prince to be making

political statements at ground zero. Attaching it to money mistakes us for whores(my apologies to whores). Not taking responsibility at the site for the actions of his citizen suicide bombers is blaming the victim. George Bush calls this man our friend. he says either you're with us or against us.

Today we have one confirmed case of anthrax in midtown manhattan. The New York Times Offices have been closed off by the police due to an anthrax threat.

Walking to work today i walked through an unusual cloud of moisture. Was it a biological weapon? I don't know. The fact the thought has crossed my mind shows we are loosing this 'war'.

There is a well documented news report this morning that arab children in lower manhattan knew about the date and attack on 9-11 and were talking about it in school the week before. They left the country on 9-10. With the aspect of 20-20 hindsite I have always condemned the internment camps of the japanese-americans during world war II. Hindsight may only seem 20-20. I fear it is none too late to open the discussion now.

One can not have a war against terrorism. Terroism is a tactic, not a target. War has very little to do with justice. If there is going to be fear, They should fear US.

-this is war about oil -this is war about money -this is war about calling the subjugation and brutalization of an entire continent, with their sights on the world, the right and freedom of their rulers to do. -this is a war over control of the pakastani nuclear arsenal. Does anyone really believe that pakistan's government is strong enough to keep their nuclear weapons out of the hands of the religious zealots?

Have you seen the anti-american protests in the arab world?

Listen to what they say, watch what they do.

what you're afraid to call the residents of the arab countries arabs? they are. what you're afraid to call the suicide bombers arabs? they are. can the targets be narrowed down more, I certainly hope so. you try to tell me that when they chant death to america, burn our flag and ATTACK OUR INNOCENTS ON OUR OWN SOIL AND PROMISE MORE TO COME, that I don't understand them. I understand them fine.

can you take down a commercial jet with 100 civilian americans on board to prevent the destruction of thousands - Our own hero's did that and considered themselves collateral damage.

We can learn from history if we choose to, look at the loss of AMERICAN life and the minute amount of resources were used in decisive battles.

Dresden Tokyo Hiroshima Nagasaki

Result:

germany and japan are free, choose their own way and are our inexorable friends.

we have the ability to stop these terrorist attacks right now.

bush or ben loudin, listen to what they say, watch what they do.

who do you believe?

I am afraid."

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
9/11/10 4:36 p.m.

The posts revived for me the sense of unreality I felt at that time and the feeling of helplessness. I posted only a small portion of what he wroted and I'm not ashamed to say I cried.

To have people now say "oh we shouldn't have done anything or we shouldn't have done what we did" is so WRONG on so many levels! What we shouldn't have done is stop short of the goal.

Platinum90
Platinum90 SuperDork
9/11/10 4:48 p.m.

I don't really remember much. I remember not knowing what the hell was going on. I was a Freshman in High School, and I was sitting in Civics 100 with my friend Jon. The room was closed in with no windows, we were the last classroom to be informed, because with the door shut, everyone had forgotten about us.

Someone opened the door, and we were all herded to the library to watch the news. Mostly you just heard kids whispering about how awesome it was to be out of class, or that assemblies were boring. I remember Jon making some morbid joke about dead people (nobody said 14 year olds had tact). At which point, one of the teachers stared daggers at him so sharp I swear I felt them cut me...

Thats all I really remember.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Reader
9/11/10 5:25 p.m.

My wife worked at Skytel. We'd gotten up to get her to work, and caught plane #2 hitting the second tower live on TV. I thought it looked like something out of a movie at first. I got her to work, and went back to the house to watch the kids, watch tv and chat with my wife at work all day (thanks to Internet Chat).

Oh, Skytel. Skytel was the pioneer in two-way paging. They spent all day getting texts from people who either couldn't get anything to work (they lost a cell tower when #1 fell), or were texting their goodbyes.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Reader
9/11/10 5:32 p.m.

I'm a Canadian, living in America since late 1999. I was at a plant inJefferson City, Missouri that Tuesday morning. Someone had a radio on their desk and heard the news. We jury rigged a TV in the conference room to pick up the local news station. We all watched in disbelief as the towers burned. Disbelief turned to horror as one fell,then the other. I stayed in Jeff City for a couple of more days doing what I could to help, waiting for the airspace to be opened again.Now here's the BUT in all of this. I decided to drive back home to Michigan on the Thursday or Friday following the attack. I remember it was a beautiful sunny day. I will never forget the sites I saw on that trip. I saw a lot of this country that I hadn't seen before.More importantly,every overpass had a flag,or a sign, or multiple flags.Every one, for hundreds of miles. It was an odd feeling making that drive, kind of like the feeling you get after the funeral is over and you realize that the sun will come up tomorrow and life goes on. It was comforting to know that after all that had happened, this country was still strong ,united and would undoubtedly bounce back.

92dxman
92dxman HalfDork
9/11/10 5:42 p.m.

I was in math class at tech school (11th grade) and one of the other teachers came into the room and said that the towers just got attacked and the tv went on and the rest is history. When I got back to regular school and had science class, a couple other kids in my class were out in the hallway repeatedly trying to get ahold of their parents who worked up in New York and they eventually got through and found out they were okay..

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/11/10 6:29 p.m.

In reply to carguy123:

Thanks, I don't know why but I can read stories like that all day. It's interesting how so many people went through the same event and came away with different thoughts.

I will agree that the triage areas he spoke of were some of the most depressing sights around, betten only by sittting in a firehouse as the fax macine spit out death notice after death notice.

I guess I'm lucky that I never felt terribly hopeless like a lot of people. Seeing and being a part of the response made me pretty confident we would get through it ok, if a bit beat up. I think it helps that I am a people person and once the tourists started to come back I enjoyed talking to a lot of them and getting their impressions. It was surprising how many said they never would have come to this cesspool before the attacks but we're not as bad as they had been raised to believe.

The Onion. I'm probably insensitive for laughing but they did a good job http://www.theonion.com/issue/3734/

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
9/11/10 7:28 p.m.
Wally wrote: The Onion. I'm probably insensitive for laughing but they did a good job http://www.theonion.com/issue/3734/

I remember waiting those two weeks to see what The Onion would produce. Part morbid curiosity and partly out of a wish to return to normalcy. Those TV listings may be the one of the most perfect pieces of cultural analysis, commentary and satire ever produced. With only about 200 words, it nearly completely sums up what it took the rest of the media thousands of hours and millions of words to even begin to explore. It's like a perfect snapshot of America.

jg

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
9/12/10 9:13 a.m.

I was at my post as a service advisor when a customer poked his head out of the waiting room and said 'a plane just hit the WTC'. I too did the 'musta been a puddle jumper' thing and said something to that effect. The response was 'no, it was something much bigger'. Huh?

We all crowded into the waiting room around the single TV and watched as the news outlets tried to make some sense of what had happened. I was totally in shock as we watched the second plane fly directly into the second tower. It was crystal clear that it was completely deliberate. I think someone in the room screamed, to this day I am not real clear on that.

All work in the whole place had ground to a halt. We all looked at each other, not knowing what to say or do. There were cars in the shop that people were waiting on, so we of course had to get them out. No one complained about being late or their bill or whatever, everyone just moved in a state of shock.

As the day went on, other news reports came in: the Pentagon crash and the Flight 93 crash. There were reports that all commercial flights had been grounded, Charleston's not exactly a hotbed of commercial aviation but it's not unusual to see airliners and from that morning on there were no planes flying, which was weird.

I still remember the initial shock, which gave way to helplessness which then gave way to smoking anger. The other night I watched 'Flight 93' again and remembered the emotions I (like pretty much everyone) went through on that day.

I flew to Mexico in March of 2002 and went through the enhanced security. I was pulled out of line and given a more thorough search because I showed more metal than normal, it was my belt buckle. I was perfectly fine with that (and still am), I have no problem going through a little more trouble at the airport if it helps stop something like that from happening again.

I stay pretty pissed about the whole thing when I think about it. I'm at the point (and have been for some time) where I really don't give a damn about the Afghan government, the Pakistanis and the Taliban who gave al Quaeda safe harbor so they could plan this. If I were running the show, I know what I'd do differently over there than what has already taken place.

BTW, I had not seen The Onion page until now. I agree, that's probably the best synopsis of the state of America at the time.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
9/12/10 9:57 a.m.

I havent read the whole thread, but I will. I wanted to post (again) my story (taken from the hotlink thread pg 187):

I was a junior in college when 9/11 happened. I was away at band camp (no jokes) in the middle of rural indiana and we had no TVs in our dorm rooms. We didnt find out until the second tower was hit and Americans began to realize the magnitude of the day (maybe 10:30 am or so?). We really began to find out when everyones cell phones started to ring, and people stopped practicing and a weird sea of shocked faces and gasps came over us. Those who werent getting calls were getting filled in by others, and the eeriest silence I ever heard sorta swarmed the field of 200 or so people as people formed into small groups and oddly quiet conversations took place. I didnt have my phone on me out on the practice field that morning, it was off in one of the smaller indoor facilities, and so I took off to call my folks. I called my mom and when she picked up she didnt say hi or anything, the first thing she sai to me was a quiet "what have you heard?" I told her we had no TVs or anything and that we heard America was under attack, and she said "yes sweetie, America is under attack, and I miss you". I was just as shocked as she was, and the rest of everyone, and I asked her if the world was going to be a different place when I got home, and she just said "yes, I think it will be, it will not be the same world it was when you left". I told her to tell my dad I loved him (he couldnt get to the phone) and to tell My sis and bro the same. After that, a lot of us couldnt get through on the phones...the small celular phone infrastructure inthis little town couldnt handle the volumes of calls, so most of us were shut off. We did see fighters fly overhead, headed east - and we all knew that was in direct response to the situation. The speed and roar was unbelievable. If it were not for 2 football fields of cleared trees headed perfectly east/west you wouldve missed them. It wasnt for 3 more days that we saw another plane - it was the oddest thing - we all stopped in silence and watched it fly over - you almost couldnt see it, it was soooo high up. The contrails of its exhaust where clearly visible though, we just watched it fly over, and it took us right back to that crazy feeling. I think thats my generations Nov 22, 1963. We all will know where we were and remember exactly how we felt.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter Dork
9/12/10 10:00 a.m.

Almost as much of a travesty was the country music "artists" that wrote just horrid tripe trash right afterwards that was pumped out incessantly and fueled a state of false patriotism.

Worse was what was passed not 30 days after. USA PATRIOT Act

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
9/12/10 12:16 p.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: Worse was what was passed not 30 days after. USA PATRIOT Act

And youd've have had them do what? Nothing?

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/14/10 1:39 a.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: Almost as much of a travesty was the country music "artists" that wrote just horrid tripe trash right afterwards that was pumped out incessantly and fueled a state of false patriotism.

You should be gald that stuff became popular, without it Toby Keith may be picking through your trash for recycleables right now.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Reader
9/14/10 4:23 p.m.

I remember a very long day.

I was the chief pilot for a charter service. I was flying our King Air 200 from Pontiac MI to Rockford IL. The owner of the company and the general manager were with me. We were meeting with another company about a merger.

It was an absolutely stunning day for flying, not a cloud east of the Rocky Mountains. We land at Rockford and Air Traffic Control advises me not to plan on leaving in 3 hours per our flight plan due to a ground stop. I decide that we do not need to go IFR we will just go home low and VFR. I had done this a number of times due to ATC computer failures and assumed that this was another one.

We walk into the hangar and hear about what is going on. This is where the day gets busy for us. We had 2 Hawkers at Teterboro NJ, 1 at Aspen CO, a Lear in MO and a Gulfstream in FL. Pilots , passengers and their families were going ape. Our guys at Teterboro could see the destruction and one did not handle it well.

We got through our meeting and decided to rent a car and drive home. We had a hard time getting a car so we borrowed a car from one of the guys that we met with.

Chicago was very strange. We drove by O'Hare and it was silent, nothing moving. Downtown we saw some military aviation but nothing else. Traffic was also light heading toward the city.

We decided to stop in Valparaiso IN to see our business associate in the aircraft repo business. He took us out for dinner and by this time cars were linned up for blocks to get fuel and prices were high $6+ per gallon if I recall. We are concerned but our associate lives on a farm and flled our tank from his gravity tank.

The rest of the drive was in the dark and traffic was very light. When we got to the airport in Pontiac it was very eerie seeing the entire place without a light burning.

I do not see those people often but we always talk about that day and the hopes and fears that we had all day to discuss.

Braden

Bobzilla
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9/14/10 4:47 p.m.

It hit me really hard that tuesday morning. The wife-to-be and I had just gotten home Monday morning from her best friend's wedding in Ridgewood, NJ. I'm a hoosier, born and bred. Never lived outside of the state, but by that time I'd seen 38 US states and been to Canada and MExico. But it had been a long time since I'd seen the NewYork skyline. So Sunday evening before we sped home to Indianapolis she took me to a hilltop that overlooked the city from Jersey, pointing out of all things the twin towers.

I was working second shifts, so I was still in bed when the first plane hit. Folks woke me up to see what was going on and as I walked into the living room I see watch the second plane hit. knowing that 48 hours ago I had been there, staring at that exact image.

What warms the heart to me is how the country came together in an instant that Tuesday morning. And how we as a country pulled together to get back to life. Life for all of us would never be the same.

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