fastoldfart
fastoldfart Reader
3/15/22 6:28 p.m.

As someone that has never owned guns, I found the simplicity of the action fascinating. Visited a range while on a trip to Vietnam, i'll never forget the sound of a half dozen AKs full auto.

https://youtu.be/_eQLFVpOYm4

 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
3/15/22 6:34 p.m.
fastoldfart
fastoldfart Reader
3/15/22 6:41 p.m.

In reply to aircooled :

Thanks, I learned something today. Grandkids not here to learn me.

84FSP
84FSP UltraDork
3/15/22 6:46 p.m.

Crude but massively effective.  Fires when filled with sand, much, ice, etc.  not terribly accurate but rowdy.  The military rounds are pretty much armor piercing due to power, weight, and steel core slug munition.  From memory they have no issue penetrating an engine block which is pretty impressive.

barefootcyborg5000
barefootcyborg5000 PowerDork
3/15/22 7:05 p.m.

AKs are cool. I should have bought one when they were cheap. I'll likely never own one now. 

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
3/15/22 7:10 p.m.

Aks are great. They are not precision instruments in any sense, but you just can't kill em. 

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UltraDork
3/15/22 7:48 p.m.

My crappy double stack Century is my go to.  Its way more reliable and accurate than it has any business being.  The level of fit and finish is so poor compared to some of my boutique guns its embarrassing, but its still a "hit it, goes bang" sort of joy.  

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/22 8:00 p.m.

I love the Forgotten Weapons video series because the mechanisms are fascinating, as is the history behind everything.  You may also like to give them a watch.

The gateway drug was his video about the development pistols before the final 1911.

84FSP
84FSP UltraDork
3/15/22 8:04 p.m.

I don't  think I ever even checked a price on AK's.  If Inwas going to deal with tax stamp and govt checklist I would use it on something crazy like a thompson or the Beretta full auto 92 variant.  Equally useless but more interesting.  

We did keep a couple of the bargain basement SKS from when the curtain fell.  We bought them by the case at $35 each and sold the rest at a profit.  Equally terrible firearms but cheap and fun.

 

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
3/15/22 8:05 p.m.

You can make a AK receiver out of a shovel and pull out cosmoline steel case ammo and it will run for 10K rounds.

 

Though AK's don't do as well in the dirt and gravel as people really think. An AR with the bolt cover closed will take a absolutely crazy amount of crap thrown at it and still run just fine. IMO 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/15/22 8:08 p.m.

How does it work?

It just does.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/22 9:32 p.m.

In reply to 84FSP :

Thompson is high on my List Of Firearms To Try.

matthewmcl
matthewmcl Dork
3/15/22 10:12 p.m.

The AK is capable of very good accuracy. Most of the tales come from servicemen dealing with guns that have been shooting corrosive ammo for 20 years (or 50) without the operator even knowing they should be cleaned. Second bit is Americans will buy anything if it is cheap enough, so a lot of cheap stuff came here. Put one together with the quality a fine tool deserves and the accuracy matches many other auto loaders. You also can't get good accuracy from lousy ammo, and lousy ammo in spam cans was cheap...

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/16/22 12:28 p.m.

Buddy and I went halfsies on an Egyptian imported AK back in the late 90's. Canted front sight, plywood furniture. Everything about it was terrible. We loved it. Put 6k or do rounds through it while I had it in my possession. He's put another 2k since then. Back then you could buy 1000 rds of wolf steel case for $69. We bought a bunch. Dad is still finding cases from that thing.  

KyAllroad
KyAllroad MegaDork
3/16/22 1:08 p.m.

Jeeze, that thing has so many precision parts!  You want simple, take a look at an M-3 "grease gun" sub machine gun.    It's primitive!

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/16/22 2:00 p.m.
KyAllroad said:

Jeeze, that thing has so many precision parts!  You want simple, take a look at an M-3 "grease gun" sub machine gun.    It's primitive!

bah, it had a charging handle.

The M3A1, however, dispensed with like half the moving parts by putting a finger hole in the bolt and extending the slot for the combination dust cover/safety.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
3/16/22 9:42 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:
KyAllroad said:

Jeeze, that thing has so many precision parts!  You want simple, take a look at an M-3 "grease gun" sub machine gun.    It's primitive!

bah, it had a charging handle.

The M3A1, however, dispensed with like half the moving parts by putting a finger hole in the bolt and extending the slot for the combination dust cover/safety.

A gun developed in 1945 and still in active use in the middle of the Iraq war. Nothing could kill them. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/16/22 9:55 p.m.

In reply to wearymicrobe :

I was kind of shocked that it was still in use as a SMG for trucks/tanks, because it is is chambered in .45ACP (a round developed over a hundred years ago for a pistol in service for seventy-odd years) and I had been under the impression that had been abandoned in favor of standardizing on 9mm. 

 

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/16/22 10:20 p.m.

Mine is Romanian. As far as I can tell, I put money in it and fun comes out for a few seconds at a time. Not select fire, but even as a semi auto, they sure are hungry. 

I really need to pull it out of the safe and take it to a range, it's been way too long since I burned my hand on the fore grip and blistered my thumb loading magazines. 

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