I did get kicked off a ski hill one time just as I was getting into the kayak...
I did get kicked off a ski hill one time just as I was getting into the kayak...
Trans_Maro wrote: If you're a big enough dumbass to sue someone because you got hurt sliding down a snowy hill in an unwanted canoe (I've done this, it's fun but I wouldn't recommend it), you deserve to be told to go berkeley yourself.
It's all because we are idiot-proofing the world, and now we have a bunch of idiots running around, who didn't learn through cause-and-effect not to be so stupid.
I have nothing against lawyers. When you need a lawyer, you need a good lawyer - and a good lawyer wins. Which sets a precedent. And thus unravels society.
Expect more of this, at a hill near you.
The question I have, not exactly related, is: when will I now be sued and held liable because my vehicle does not have traction-control/stability-control/antilock-brakes/self-parking/proximity-sensor/self-driving/drive-by-wire/bluetooth/whatever-the-next-technology-is.
"Sorry Skinny, ~had~ your vehicle been equipped with vehicle-follow-technology, that accident would ~not~ have happened. Now pay up."
Stupid, but it's where the world is going.
What if you fall and land on a toboggan, conveniently placed at the top of a snowy hill? Could you be held liable for accidental tobogganning? 
What if you had been drinking too? Like, is that a TUI?
No, the alcohol is just antifreeze. It's the responsible thing to do.
In reply to Trans_Maro:
Suuuure...tell that to a revenuer-er-cop when he writes you some bullE36 M3 ticket.
The best sled hill in Ithaca is the Libe Slope at Cornell. Sleds, toboggan, ect. are banned. IIRC, city enforcement includes a $250 fine.
found this pic in a google search...
count the reasons that CPS should be called to take this poor child from his uncaring and broken home..
In reply to Appleseed:
"You wrote a ticket for a 9-year-old who was sledding? What kind of monster are you?"
If you're an adult and you get the ticket, pay it and accept the cost of having fun.
If your kid gets a ticket for playing outside, call the newspaper.
In reply to SkinnyG:
It's where the world is going, thankfully, I'll be dead before it gets too stupid.
Sledding must have been safer when I was a kid.
I never needed a helmet and we were allowed to do it nearly anywhere.
We need to ban this modern, unsafe world. That's the root of the problem.
SVreX wrote: I grew up in NJ. When snow was on the roads, we used to run up behind cars (ducking so the driver wouldn't see us in the mirrors), grab the rear bumper, and "ride" it for miles (just sliding our feet on the snow covered streets). It always ended in a wipe out in the middle of the street. I'm wondering who I can sue for this...
Bumper skitching. I done this, nary a broken bone or lawsuit to show for it neither.
KyAllroad wrote:SVreX wrote: I grew up in NJ. When snow was on the roads, we used to run up behind cars (ducking so the driver wouldn't see us in the mirrors), grab the rear bumper, and "ride" it for miles (just sliding our feet on the snow covered streets). It always ended in a wipe out in the middle of the street. I'm wondering who I can sue for this...Bumper skitching. I done this, nary a broken bone or lawsuit to show for it neither.
We did this in Chicago when I was young and stupid. Great fun, unless you grabbed on by the tailpipe. Three of us grabbed a VW squareback one time and stopped it cold. The driver was just a "little" pissed at us,
Trans_Maro wrote: People make way too much of things like this. It's just the city applying a CYA law so they can't be liable. Continue tobogganning wherever, if someone bitches, go toboggan elsewhere. It's like the stupid tire chain laws. Everyone up here has a minor freakout every winter when they see the tire chain signs go up and some idiot goes "hurr durr what about motorcycles?" Then everyone loses their mind complaining that motorcycles should not require chains because there aren't any available. Us normal folk go about our business, secure in the knowledge that we will never ride our motorcycles in conditions that are bad enough to need chains and that darwin will sort out anyone foolish enough to do otherwise. Same goes for sledding. If you're a big enough dumbass to sue someone because you got hurt sliding down a snowy hill in an unwanted canoe (I've done this, it's fun but I wouldn't recommend it), you deserve to be told to go berkeley yourself.
many yrs ago (late '70's) I used to see a guy on a motorcycle every day as I (and I'm assuming he) was going to work … summer/winter … sunny/warm … cold/snow … in the winter he just strapped on the sidecar and on he came
great idea …if you're living in the '50's … now-a-days juries don't have the nads to say this …. "everyone" is looking for someone to blame for anything that happens to them, regardless of whether they did it to themselves or not
In reply to wbjones: There's a guy in Ottawa who rides his Ural (with sidecar) in the winter. It's funny to see him go through the Tim Horton's drive through.
patgizz wrote: if you were influenced by back to the future, you could sue michael j fox.
Not a chance. It was like 15 years prior to BTTF.
Oh, wait a minute... I hope that doesn't mean Micheal J. Fox can sue ME. 
I don't think the lawyer was a dumbass, quite the contrary...
I think he was very well informed, and saw an opportunity to take advantage of the system.
I would go so far as to say I think he staged it, in order to collect nearly $1 million for himself.
Lawyers know stupid laws when they see them.
Svrex, in that mindset, $900k was actually a fairly cheap consultation for the city! ;)
When tobogganing is outlawed, only outlaws will toboggan.
SVreX wrote: I don't think the lawyer was a dumbass, quite the contrary... I think he was very well informed, and saw an opportunity to take advantage of the system. I would go so far as to say I think he staged it, in order to collect nearly $1 million for himself. Lawyers know stupid laws when they see them.
you're right … it doesn't make him a dumbass …it makes him an shiny happy person 
NOHOME wrote: At least for one Major city. Despite the Canadian Government spending millions every year to get kids away from the video games, the decision was made to bad tobogganing because it is too dangerous and hence a possible liability to the city. Proof that at some point adults all become idiots. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/hamilton-s-tobogganing-bylaw-in-place-for-legal-protection-no-fines-handed-out-1.2892656
One bylaw in one city is not a nationwide ban. This is equivalent to having a stupid bylaw in Gary Indiana affecting the whole U.S.
Next they'll ban indoor tobogganing, and require background checks before buying clothes baskets.
I guess this would be one way to have your couch potato lifestyle and some fun at the same time. I wonder if this would be legal since it does not actually involve anything that could be described as a Toboggan?
My town just spent untold thousands "improving" our sledding hill and in fact closed it this year so the improvement could take hold. (Added tile under the surface?)
Anywho, bet it's closed in the next few years rendering the money wasted.
We fell off our sleds, we fell off our tobogans, We fell on our skis, bobsleds etc.
Always thought it as fun and we laughed.
Ah me.
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