Say you had a car totaled and then a year later you find what appears to be the same car (VIN advertized matches) for sale with 10k less miles and it looked to have been completely fixed.
No mention of the title status as it I being sold in a state that does not require a title.
Say somthing? Or just forget you ever saw it.
Say something.
If not, a bad repair could kill someone down the road, and they had no idea.
Yep, verify the VIN then blow the whistles.
Duke
MegaDork
1/26/17 8:08 a.m.
Yeah, there's no reason to let somebody get away with fraud. Double check the VIN and then make noise.
Very common. Shady dealers buy a ton of cars from Copart, especially ones that are in places that don't require titles or have very loose laws around salvage titles. Yes, you can definitely speak up, but you may not get very far.
Who do you call for something like that? The Attorney General's office in that state I guess?
Huckleberry wrote:
Who do you call for something like that?
Yes, I'd call the AG office first
If it's in a state that doesn't issue titles then that may be perfectly legal. I'd find out and if it's not report it to whatever agency is responsible for that in that state.
The repair is fine, and if done properly, no big deal. Caveat emptor there. The cooked odometer, though, is illegal in every way in every jurisdiction not run by Boss Hogg and Roscoe.
Hypothetically, see the contact information at the bottom of this... https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.dot.gov/files/811284.pdf
STM317
HalfDork
1/26/17 12:32 p.m.
Why would they go through the trouble of rolling the odometer back and only reduce the mileage by 10k? Seems like a lot of risk for very little gain in selling price. Maybe they just put a different cluster in it for some reason as part of the repair?
do they actually claim that it has 10k less miles or does it just show it in a picture? i think most titles have a spot to check 'mileage exempt' or something along those lines due to a odometer not working/replaced cluster
edizzle89 wrote:
do they actually claim that it has 10k less miles or does it just show it in a picture? i think most titles have a spot to check 'mileage exempt' or something along those lines due to a odometer not working/replaced cluster
This. I can't imagine a state that doesn't bother with titles would really give a E36 M3 about the correct mileage. In NC, the default for cars over a certain age (10 years IIRC) is to check "exempt". This pisses me off to no end, as on a 10 year old car, mileage makes a hell of a difference.
Also, before this thread, I didn't know there was such thing as a state where you didn't need a title. WTF.
My guess is that it may be an error in entering the odometer as it was off exactly 10K 117 versus 107. Not really worth all the trouble of doing it for only 10K. Does not add any value so I assume it is a clerical error.