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chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 8:36 a.m.

Need speakers for the Hyundai - it's currently got 4" in the doors and I want to go up to 5.25" on the cheap. (by on the cheap I mean two ways with a crossover for <$100) I'm torn between the following:

http://www.autosoundswarehouse.com/servlet/the-3032/db521-5.25%22-2-dsh-Way-speakers/Detail

http://www.millionbuy.com/view_product.php?itemno=MBQRVF213&MB-QUART-RVF-213

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-DB5251-5-25-Inch-Component/dp/tech-data/B000P0PFA0/ref=de_a_smtd

What does everybody think? I was originally going to go with the MB's because they're the cheapest but I have a soft spot for Polks...

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 8:37 a.m.

In reply to chknhwk:

Oh yeah, the car currently has the stock stereo setup with a Kenwood headunit. Plans are ghetto mid-90's era stereo theme with a bass tube and small amp in the back.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 HalfDork
2/9/11 8:56 a.m.

Go for it. Buy it from Crutchfield. Fast, free shipping, and they'll include any special plugs to adapt to your factory wiring, if required.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB521/Polk-Audio-db521.html?tp=97

No affiliation. I just love Crutchfield service and I always recommend them.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
2/9/11 9:11 a.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: Go for it. Buy it from Crutchfield. Fast, free shipping, and they'll include any special plugs to adapt to your factory wiring, if required. http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB521/Polk-Audio-db521.html?tp=97 No affiliation. I just love Crutchfield service and I always recommend them.

You forgot high prices.

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 9:28 a.m.

They're also $37 more than one of the links I posted. I doubt almost $40 more is worth free shipping and some free crimps. Granted if the price was a little closer - say within $7-9 and I still got the free shipping I'd be willing to go with them but like I said, I'm looking to do this on the cheap.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 HalfDork
2/9/11 9:34 a.m.

I hear ya! Those prices are very good. Crutchfield compares very favorably to most conventional outlets, but I forget sometimes what cheapskates you guys are!

failboat
failboat Reader
2/9/11 9:36 a.m.

imo polks do sound nice. disclaimer i am not an audiophile with superhuman hearing capabilities

5-1/4 should bolt right in, i thought it was the oem size for the front doors of the accent.

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 9:40 a.m.

In reply to failboat:

Please don't tell me they're 5-1/4, I thought they were 4". If they're 5.25"s then I'm going to start looking for 6.5"s and I don't want to do that.

failboat
failboat Reader
2/9/11 9:46 a.m.

I have not taken mine out yet so I cannot confirm, but I do have a set of old 5-1/4 polk-momo components NIB in my garage....just waiting.....

check on hyundai-forums though I am pretty sure some others have installed 6.5's

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/9/11 9:50 a.m.

Check www.woofersetc.com for some crazy prices.

I'd go with the Polks. The DB-series are a very good budget speaker.

Don't bother with the 6.5s. If you're going to do a sub of some kind, the 5.25s will be plenty, without having to hack up your doors. 5.25s are a "faster" speaker typically anyways.

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 9:51 a.m.

Crutchfield says they should be 6.5" - I could have sworn they were 4" from my last search.

failboat
failboat Reader
2/9/11 9:53 a.m.

the accent has 5.25's stock, mounted in a plastic ring thats the same size/diameter as a 6.5 speaker. Hence why the larger speakers fit.

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 9:55 a.m.

What is your source if you don't mind me asking? Now more decision time - 5.25 or 6.5"...

failboat
failboat Reader
2/9/11 10:00 a.m.

seeing folks install threads on hyundai-forums.

Here is the one in specific I was thinking of. Jump to page 5 if the link doesnt take you there. http://www.hyundai-forums.com/index.php?showtopic=45469&st=80

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 10:09 a.m.

Sweet, thank you. Things are starting to make a little more sense.

Side note, I like what he used for mounting his speakers - dollar store cutting boards, brllnt!

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 10:09 a.m.

So back to the original question, which speakers does the GRM collective recommend? Which of the posted specimens provides the greatest value and performance for the dollar?

internetautomart
internetautomart SuperDork
2/9/11 10:16 a.m.

get more mileage out of a cheap pair of speakers.
Raid your local pick-n-pull for any car that is fresh and look for relatively new aftermarket speakers. you should be able to buy them for ~$20 a pair.
If I were to go new, I just look at specs and go from there. Though right now my main spec is price then size. I can always make adapter brackets.

madmallard
madmallard Reader
2/9/11 10:39 a.m.

avoid these particular MB Quarts. both Polks listed are ridiculously more efficient and will play louder/better with less watts.

Also +1 for Crutchfield. They make up for the price difference by utterly destroying all others in customer service. For your dollar you generally get every OEM quick-plug you need for what you buy, and a complete multi-page install explosion dedicated to your car. Along with tech support outside 9-5.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof Dork
2/9/11 11:31 a.m.

Infinity reference all the way. I bought a pair of Polks a few years ago, and was really disappointed. Maybe that's unusual, but I have used the Infinities in everything from 4 to 6 x 9's, and would use nothing else. I have 6.5's in my car and truck now.

You can find new surplus on ebay anywhere from a quarter to half price.

I've built home audio speakers as a hobby for over 30 years. I'm no expert, but I know a good speaker when I hear one.

chknhwk
chknhwk Reader
2/9/11 11:46 a.m.

In reply to madmallard:

Ah, thank you for pointing out the shortcomings with the MB Quartz, that helps a lot.

In reply to Zomby woof:

Do you remember which Polks in particular you have experience with? I want the Polk MMs but they're a little pricey. Although I do put 100+ miles a day on it, good speakers will be worth the money...

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/9/11 11:47 a.m.

Zomby inadvertently brings up a good point...

Listen before you buy.

While i recognize that the Infinity References are quality units, there's no way i would put them in my car. The tweeter feels like ice picks digging through my eardrum.

The Polk db-series are a little harsh to my ears as well, but for how cheap they are, they're acceptable.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/9/11 11:51 a.m.
chknhwk wrote: In reply to madmallard: Ah, thank you for pointing out the shortcomings with the MB Quartz, that helps a lot. In reply to Zomby woof: Do you remember which Polks in particular you have experience with? I want the Polk MMs but they're a little pricey. Although I do put 100+ miles a day on it, good speakers will be worth the money...

I'm going to guess it was the DBs...

I'm not a fan of the MMs, either, i like the SRs.

Check out CDT at woofersetc.com if you want some serious bang for your buck. They often discount the "Classic" comps for $100. They're an excellent sounding speaker, though i would suggest an amp to go with. Your chance of powering any decent speaker well using stock stereo or a headunit are pretty slim.

Alpine makes it easy with their "power pack" if you aren't looking for a ton of power.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof Dork
2/9/11 11:57 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: While i recognize that the Infinity References are quality units, there's no way i would put them in my car. The tweeter feels like ice picks digging through my eardrum.

That's not the first time I've read that, but I think the only other time was from you too.

I'm kind of sensitive to harsh tweeters, and I don't hear that at all.

IR's should sound good, and really smooth on a stock head unit. They do in my truck, and did in my Z

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/9/11 12:01 p.m.

I have infinity Kappas in my saab.. nothing wrong with them

failboat
failboat Reader
2/9/11 12:07 p.m.

My experience with Infinity speakers was similar if not quite as drastic as HalfTrac's, their sound was not as full and more tinny sounding than a comparably priced polk in the same size. In high school I used to work at circuit city so had an insane discount on car audio stuff. I was getting stuff for myself discounted, getting stuff for friends, so I got to hear a lot of different things, I went through a few items myself.

Granted, this was 10 years ago so consider that...

The best combo without an amp and reasonably priced was alpine headunit with polk speakers. I hooked a friend up with that combo and he put it in his 83 caprice. When he got a 2 door ford explorer he transferred all the stereo stuff over. I asked him a year or two ago if he still had that stereo, the headunit crapped out on him and he replaced it with a new alpine, still had the same speakers and apparently they still sound great.

I am always hesitant to run aftermarket speakers on a stock stereo, I thought most speakers blow not because you put too much power through them, but not enough. YMMV, every radio is different, etc....

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