If someone would have had a tape measure and some inches this could have been avoided but who knows how wide they should make something in centpedes or mililiters
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/travel/bike-lane-stops-buses-in-their-tracks/story-e6frezhr-1225901316639
FORGET commuter buses - it seems it's bikes that rule the road in Sydney's inner city.
The STA scrapped a large part of the Route 311 service through Woolloomooloo yesterday thanks to a new City of Sydney Council bikeway that is so wide it has made the road too dangerous for buses.
The path is part of the State Government's plan to increase the number of people using bike paths by 10 per cent, with $160 million allocated for cycleway projects in Sydney.
The two-lane Bourke St bike path is already the subject of residential fury in Surry Hills, with lawyers last week sending a letter to the council demanding it be torn up.
Yesterday STA sources said the bike lane in Bourke St at Woolloomooloo was so wide that two buses could not fit down the street.
Six bus stops will now be missed.
"Drivers said they weren't able to safely use the road as a result of the bike lane. Council tends to run its own race and doesn't look at the bigger picture," the source said.
STA executive Peter Rowley said the issue had been raised with the council "numerous times" since the start of last year.
Residents are furious they have been caught up in a decade-long "boardroom stoush" between government and council.
"I went to catch the bus home and the driver told me he didn't go to my stop any more," resident Jan Carroll said.
Last night, a City of Sydney Council spokeswoman rejected claims the cycleway was to blame and claimed the council was being made "a scapegoat".
We've got a few like that here. Not that long though, and not connected to each other.
My favorite is a bizzare bicycle section of a two lane round about. Only about 100 feet long.
i'll be all for bike lanes when they make bicyclists start paying to register their bikes every year to help pay for them.
until that point, that part of the road is still considered part of where i can drive and park my legally registered and insured car.
this applies to the trails, too. around here, bikes get to ride where the snowmobiles get to ride in the winter- usually old abandoned train track routes. the snowmobiles need to by a special sticker to ride on the trails- and another special sticker if they have studs in their tracks. this money is used for the upkeep of the trails- which mostly consists of sending out trail grooming machines in the winter months to keep a nice smooth base of snow so they don't tear up the trail for the bikes in the summer, and there are sections of paved trail where snowmobiles aren't allowed at all, even tho they were used as snowmobile trails before people decided that they wanted nice paved paths for their bikes and rollerblades....
oldsaw
SuperDork
8/5/10 6:30 p.m.
In reply to novaderrik:
I see logic and some merit in those ideas.
A also see political suicide for any lawmaker who floats that to the potential payers/voters.
there are no snowmobiles in Sydney Australia as it errr............. doesn't snow evar
The Forest Service down here imposed a $5 per day fee to use any of the trails in the Francis Marion National Forest. The only ones who complained: the bicyclists and the hikers.
I have nothing against people who ride bicycles, there are three in my garage. I do have a problem with the bicyclists who see nothing wrong with backing trafffic up 2 miles as they ride three wide. Yes, it happens. I suggest you not drive on John's Island down here. These same bike activists demand that the state add paved bike lanes or they will continue to ride where they want and block traffic as they do so. Of course, the bike lanes must be paid for with the taxes of others; they are above such pedestrian ideas as 'pay to play'. 
I just wanna move to Woollomooloo.
Hey, didn't confusion between metric and standard berkeley up one of the Mars missions?
aussiesmg wrote:
there are no snowmobiles in Sydney Australia as it errr............. doesn't snow evar
It will when we introduce Pyonyang to nuclear winter.
"The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it."
True, the metric system has much to do with it.
But they also drink beer 18 hours a day, and insist on driving on the wrong side of the road.
Plenty of blame to go around, I say..
the other six hours are dedicated to rum, scotch and other assorted blood thinners
novaderrik wrote:
i'll be all for bike lanes when they make bicyclists start paying to register their bikes every year to help pay for them.
until that point, that part of the road is still considered part of where i can drive and park my legally registered and insured car.
what about those of us who drive AND ride. I do about 100miles a week on my bicycle.
mad_machine wrote:
novaderrik wrote:
i'll be all for bike lanes when they make bicyclists start paying to register their bikes every year to help pay for them.
until that point, that part of the road is still considered part of where i can drive and park my legally registered and insured car.
what about those of us who drive AND ride. I do about 100miles a week on my bicycle.
Many of us choose to have multiple cars, we pay registration fees on all of them...
If cars were as disposable as bikes, I would bet that would change...
However, I have sold bikes more expensive than any car Ive ever owned, so I guess thats all relative...
Most expensive bike I sold while working at the shop: Canondale Caad9 MSRP~$6k > Most expensive car Ive bought 1995 Corolla $2.5k
Luke
SuperDork
8/9/10 8:16 a.m.
Often, people will come into the bike shop where I work, notice the full-carbon, electronic Dura-Ace-equipped Merida with the $11K RRP, (down to $7k, FWIW), and say something to the tune of: "bloody hell, I could buy a car for that!". Then I casually laugh it off, all the while secretly in agreement with them 
. Yeah, or several!
Luke wrote:
Often, people will come into the bike shop where I work, notice the full-carbon, electronic Dura-Ace-equipped Merida with the $11K RRP, (down to $7k, FWIW), and say something to the tune of: "bloody hell, I could buy a car for that!". Then I casually laugh it off, all the while secretly in agreement with them . Yeah, or several!
If you ever hear "I could buy three and a half Challenge cars for that!", you know you're in good company.
shadetree30 wrote:
I just wanna move to Woollomooloo.
I've found the name of my next pet. Thanks Wally.
Hocrest wrote:
mad_machine wrote:
novaderrik wrote:
i'll be all for bike lanes when they make bicyclists start paying to register their bikes every year to help pay for them.
until that point, that part of the road is still considered part of where i can drive and park my legally registered and insured car.
what about those of us who drive AND ride. I do about 100miles a week on my bicycle.
Many of us choose to have multiple cars, we pay registration fees on all of them...
yeah- every car has to be individually registered and insured.. bikes don't have that same problem.
A particularly dangerous story of metric conversion. And yes, that is a grid of Formula Fords.
http://www.wadenelson.com/gimli.html
I'll be racing there at the end of August.
Luke wrote:
Often, people will come into the bike shop where I work, notice the full-carbon, electronic Dura-Ace-equipped Merida with the $11K RRP, (down to $7k, FWIW), and say something to the tune of: "bloody hell, I could buy a car for that!". Then I casually laugh it off, all the while secretly in agreement with them . Yeah, or several!
The only problem with that, is that bike is more like, say, a Mosler, or an Ariel Atom, which you are NOT going to buy for $7k. Or even $11k.
Count me solidly into the bikes are more expensive than cars gig. $50 front tire every couple weeks, chain and crankset and cogset wearing out every 500-1000 miles, a derailleur on every ride, shoes that only last half a year before the sole cracks, other miscellaneous breakage... all for a bike that cost more than the most expensive car I'd ever bought, and this takes into account my employee discount as well! (Paid $1100 for the thing)
I am totally serious when I say that I got into cars because they're CHEAPER than biking.
Of course, if I just stuck to the damn road instead of riding "trails", I'd probably do okay.
But still, aluminum chainrings are an abomination, and y'all with your singlespeeds are just copying the trail bike I made in 1994 that only had a 32 in the front and a 21 in the rear, because I figured that I always had to ride home in singlespeed mode, might as well start out the ride that way too. 
(Use two Craig's Links, so you can take out a section of chain to convert the bike to singlespeed after you break the rear derailleur off. Again.)
A derailleur on EVERY RIDE??? Berkely man what the hell are you doing out there? North Shore Whistler freeriding or some new extreme version of Mtn cross on a trail composed entirely of 1/2" diameter foot long twigs? And if I were spending $50 a pop on front tires that wore out every couple weeks, Id start running tubes again ferchrysake
Rocks. Big huge rocks. And log crossings. I wouldn't portage :)
And you gotta run the tires at about 10psi to keep from sliding off of the big huge rocks, which leads to a lot of snakebite flats, which can lead to landing on a derailleur.
Front tires would just wear out that quickly. At the time, I was doing up to 50 miles a day, half of that off-road, the rest on-road. Knobbies don't cotton to braking on pavement very much, and I'd throw tires away when they'd get rounded.
I don't see what the problem is......my Celica would have no problem using that as my own personal street.
Would look something like this.....
blaze86vic wrote:
I don't see what the problem is......my Celica would have no problem using that as my own personal street.
Would look something like this.....
Ouch! Where did that happen?
