Bobzilla wrote: good! That was the point. I too have never been searched by the TSA. But 35 yo gingers with an expanding wasteline and pasty white skin doesn't usually pop up in the "random" selection.
Sometimes they do, I have had to go behind the curtain and unpack my luggage twice before being allowed to check in.
KATYB wrote: i meant im 28 but i was 27 last time i flew.
Oh, I get it. Sorry to be hyper comma-sensitive. I'm an engineer and I guess they look like decimal points to me, and those are very important.
The last international flight I was on, I was coming home from Spain where I had just finished a 5 month foreign exchange program in 2005. When packing for spain I had forgotten my razor, and I refused to get my hair cut anywhere other than my personal barber. I was also carrying a very large army surplus canvas bag. I was also in a hurry, so I probably looked nervous. Needless to say, I was "randomly inspected" during layover at Heathrow.
ive never gotten why i get the "fondle" its always leaving tulsa no other airport ever. providence and logan never have a problem nor do i have a problem with portland (ya i only fly to massachusetts and maine)
I fly a bit, and have never been patted down. But I have had the opportunity to chat with a number of airline pilots in various terminals. Consensus of their opinions of TSA? They despise them all. They get a free pass while in uniform, but that does not change their opinions. It's also interesting that the searches are far less intrusive at general aviation airports. Show your papers, go on in.
cwh wrote: I fly a bit, and have never been patted down. But I have had the opportunity to chat with a number of airline pilots in various terminals. Consensus of their opinions of TSA? They despise them all. They get a free pass while in uniform, but that does not change their opinions. It's also interesting that the searches are far less intrusive at general aviation airports. Show your papers, go on in.
TSA is far too under payed and under trained for what they are doing. If they were properly trained they would be working for someone else for more that 9/hour. Any type if security is a pain in the ass because its not user friendly. I'm just a gluten for punishment. 
N Sperlo wrote: I'm just a gluten for punishment.
Man. Celiac disease must suck. I love pasta and could never give up real beer. 
my entire family got the fondles (including my 5y/o boy and 7y/o girl) in more than one country on our mission trip... I recall for sure when we where leaving from Panama (along with our carry on bags searched both at security and again right before getting on the jet)... then again got felt up when leaving Northern Ireland...
Salanis wrote:N Sperlo wrote: I'm just a gluten for punishment.Man. Celiacs disease must suck. I love pasta and could never give up real beer.
I like Toyota Celiacs!
Would this be an inappropriate place to put pics or it didn't happen? J/k
last time i was in europe, we had to go back through security and all the other crap to make a connection at heathrow. they're very diplomatic there, everyone walks through the metal detector, and its set to randomly pick every X person or something. that person happened to be a little girl 4 or 5 years old. we're all standing in line about to miss our connection because of this crap, and they're patting down children... was a complete waste of time
I've only flown with the military since the TSA came into being. It's funny to have them get upset over a knife, but not say anything about the rifle or pistol that's with you.
Strizzo wrote: last time i was in europe, we had to go back through security and all the other crap to make a connection at heathrow. they're very diplomatic there, everyone walks through the metal detector, and its set to randomly pick every X person or something. that person happened to be a little girl 4 or 5 years old. we're all standing in line about to miss our connection because of this crap, and they're patting down children... was a complete waste of time
I think the TSA is crap; however, there are a lot of people that would use children to hide stuff.
tuna55 wrote:KATYB wrote: i meant im 28 but i was 27 last time i flew.Oh, I get it. Sorry to be hyper comma-sensitive. I'm an engineer and I guess they look like decimal points to me, and those are very important.
Complete sentences are also important to engineers, are they not? I take it that you're not a PE.
Aaaaaand reason #46289 why road trips are better. Just sayin'.
I am pleased that, to date, I have not been singled out for the freedom fondle. However, I did piss off 200+ people at RDU once when I went through security with the cutest cat EVER. They make you take the cat out of the carrier, put the carrier through the x-ray machine and walk through the scanner with the cat. I got to the other side and all four lanes of security halted while guards ran over to coo over the kitty. (Seriously. She's that precious!)
And yes, I could feel the loathing every single person in all four lines that came to a screeching halt directed at me in that 45-60 seconds that everything paused... >shudder<
the freedom fondle i think only annoyed me the first time cause i swear the women has hairy palms. it was like getting felt up by sasquatch
^Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!!!!
ahem
I have nothing further to add.
Umm... pics or it didn't happen? Or is that inappropriate?
so i wonder what they would say if.. umm ok never mind...
At YYZ a couple years ago - immediately post-underwear bomber the security was on maximum overdrive alert. It was a 10 minute personal screening for everyone returning to the US into DCA.
As the Canuckistani TSA dude thumbed through every page of reading material in my huge messenger bag I was directed to insert MY OWN HANDS down my pants. I'd never been directed to this and I fly a lot. So I played half-wit and eventually got the guy to demonstrate for me which is at least a little fun. So, I thrust my hands into my jeans, and wait patiently for him to rifle through my bag as I answer questions like "Yes - that's my Blackberry. Uh-huh, that's an iPod...That's called "chewing gum"...toothbrush. Yup, Bose noise-cancelling headphones...". Eventually he finished and pushed the bag across the counter toward me.
I looked at him blankly. He said "you're done". I gestured with my chin downward suggesting that I couldn't pick up my bag - because MY HANDS WERE STILL DOWN MY PANTS.
He said "you can take them out"...
To which I replied "I'm not finished yet"
Home finally! I fly almost every week, and it's getting to the point where I have to force myself into a sort of zen state, or I'd just berkeleying lose it. Stupidity like having 2 header bolts that I'd forgotten were in my purse confiscated , or being told that I was "taking jobs from Americans" by going on U.S. press launches (oh really... so you don't want to sell cars in Canada, where what I'm writing will actually be published?) or the customs agent who refused to look at my passport because I'd held it in my teeth while retrieving my boarding pass from my carry-on causing me to miss my connection... nothing is more dangerous than really stupid people when they're given a bit of power.
Pics or it didn't happen 
I alway tell the fondlers "I'll give you 30 minutes to stop that"
Shawn
barnca wrote: so i wonder what they would say if.. umm ok never mind...
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Joey
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Joey
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