In reply to Mndsm :
The Florida Reddit page is a freakin dumpster fire. I can't go there anymore.
In reply to Mndsm :
The Florida Reddit page is a freakin dumpster fire. I can't go there anymore.
In reply to Mndsm :
I like skiing. Denver also has something like 300 sunny days a year. Once in awhile we get a large snow storm and then 2-3 days later it's gone and sunny again. Very different than when I lived in the lake effect band in Cleveland nearly 30 years ago.
Had a random thought - how far away can space shuttles be heard? And do they have late night (midnight -6am) launches often?
In reply to Hoppps :
Yeah you're not going to hear any space shuttles.
Mndsm said:In reply to docwyte :
the humidity does suck. it's like trying to breathe in mashed potatoes. Know what doesn't suck though? trying to guess which snow pile is my car. It's the trades we make. I had my fun with snow. I'm very much not a winter sports person. Or a sports person. Or a person.
This is me. We are moving to the other side of the state. Far enough in and high enough to be out of the wake of storm surges and flooding. Property is purchased, hope to begin construction in 2 years.
Snakes, they are there. Keeping your yard clear makes them less likely to stick around. Gators are going to need water close, so don't live on the water you're fine.
There's a lot of positives and a lot of negatives. We'll be going from an extremely LOW cost of living to a much higher, but we are doing it on our terms with no mortgage and no bills.
Stampie said:In reply to Hoppps :
Yeah you're not going to hear any space shuttles.
(looks at the calendar) Sure you will. It's not like they retired them or anything.
The Space Shuttle era ended in 2011 but, semantics aside, yes, you’ll hear rockets if living near the Space Coast. We’re about 60 miles north and hear the launches–sometimes. Sometimes we hear a dull roar, sometimes we hear nothing. Can’t recall ever being woken up by one, though.
Should add that we hear the roar if outside or have the doors/windows open. It’s not something that drowns out the TV or anything. You kind of have to listen for it. The Harleys are a million times worse. #sorrynotsorry
Scotty Con Queso said:In reply to Mndsm :
The Florida Reddit page is a freakin dumpster fire. I can't go there anymore.
I like a good dumpster fire. I also like it when someone asks for good restaurant recommendations, makes it obvious they know berkeley all about good food and is unwilling to get their feet wet outside the tourist corridor, so someone inevitably recommends Rachel's for a nice steak....and no one says anything. That will never cease to be funny.
bobzilla said:Mndsm said:In reply to docwyte :
the humidity does suck. it's like trying to breathe in mashed potatoes.
This is me. We are moving to the other side of the state. Far enough in and high enough to be out of the wake of storm surges and flooding. Property is purchased, hope to begin construction in 2 years.
Snakes, they are there. Keeping your yard clear makes them less likely to stick around. Gators are going to need water close, so don't live on the water you're fine.
There's a lot of positives and a lot of negatives. We'll be going from an extremely LOW cost of living to a much higher, but we are doing it on our terms with no mortgage and no bills.
I live close enough to the water where there's almost always a breeze. That helps with humidity a lot. Summer down here is only marginally worse than Michigan, just longer. The winter is the trade off for that though. It's a good trade off. Months of temps in the 70s and hardly a cloud in sight.
We live in flood zone X I think. No flood insurance needed. We only had flooded streets during hurricane Ian (100-year storm). the next day the street was clear (except for the houses that were on it lol).
After having living through a major hurricane, Florida is better than Michigan (for my family), even though there are things I miss in MI.
In reply to DrBoost :
We'll be 130 miles north of you, 7.9 miles inland, and 48 ft up. We are to the point that I can't think of anything I'll miss from up here.
In reply to bobzilla :
48' up!?!? Are you doing high-altitude training in preparation? My wife and I were at one of the highest points in the state a few months ago, I think it was 150' up. We brought parkas and crampons, just in case lol.
In reply to DrBoost :
Wife's cousin is at 106'. I think they get snow up there.
If I moved to another state, I would be curious about state specific things like licenses and registrations, inspections, concealed-carry permits, access to healthcare, taxes, garbage and recycling, and whatever else I needed to know month to month or had a personal interest in. Like, where do I go to get these things done, and what agencies do I deal with, and are there forms I have to submit to someone somewhere? A new bureaucracy takes some time to learn I am guessing.
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) said:If I moved to another state, I would be curious about state specific things like licenses and registrations, inspections, concealed-carry permits, access to healthcare, taxes, garbage and recycling, and whatever else I needed to know month to month or had a personal interest in. Like, where do I go to get these things done, and what agencies do I deal with, and are there forms I have to submit to someone somewhere? A new bureaucracy takes some time to learn I am guessing.
Most Florida counties have a single government center with stuff like DMV, VA, Public Health all on a single campus, so that stuff tends to be fairly streamlined (except for the waits in line). Garbage and trash is either handled by the city/county or by a private contractor through the city/county, so your bill usually either comes out of property taxes or goes to some governmental entity. But if you're renting this likely won't be a concern.
As for wildlife, yeah, it's out there, but everyplace has some form of hazardous wildlife. Gators and snakes will likely be a very, very low threat to any dogs. I'd be more worried about our increasing coyote population, although the nuisance coyote population is increasing all over the place and we don't seemto be able topaint fake tunnels on the sides of building fast enough to knock them out.
DrBoost said:bobzilla said:Mndsm said:In reply to docwyte :
the humidity does suck. it's like trying to breathe in mashed potatoes.
This is me. We are moving to the other side of the state. Far enough in and high enough to be out of the wake of storm surges and flooding. Property is purchased, hope to begin construction in 2 years.
Snakes, they are there. Keeping your yard clear makes them less likely to stick around. Gators are going to need water close, so don't live on the water you're fine.
There's a lot of positives and a lot of negatives. We'll be going from an extremely LOW cost of living to a much higher, but we are doing it on our terms with no mortgage and no bills.
I live close enough to the water where there's almost always a breeze. That helps with humidity a lot. Summer down here is only marginally worse than Michigan, just longer. The winter is the trade off for that though. It's a good trade off. Months of temps in the 70s and hardly a cloud in sight.
We live in flood zone X I think. No flood insurance needed. We only had flooded streets during hurricane Ian (100-year storm). the next day the street was clear (except for the houses that were on it lol).
After having living through a major hurricane, Florida is better than Michigan (for my family), even though there are things I miss in MI.
Marginally worse than Michigan summers? *opens Zillow to Port Charlotte*
In reply to P3PPY :
We're on the MS coast, not FL, but before we moved here 8-years ago I poured over a bunch of historic climatological data & yeah, the high temps are often lower here than in IL during the summer, and the humidity is about the same. However the radiant heat from the sun is hotter down here.
Also, we're on a peninsula a couple blocks from the water, and the sea breeze keeps it a couple degrees cooler here than it is a mile or so inland.
In reply to Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) :
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Id pack my E36 M3 tonight and move to Ocean Springs, MS if it were just me. But I am supporting 4 addition humans, one of which has the final say in this game of life.
The MS coast is a true hidden gem. Florida without the Florida.
In reply to pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) :
Dave - the trash runs on Wednesdays in Florida. Is that a deal breaker?
We will make our way down there once kids are in college. Our public Montessori schools are too good up here. That's my only hang up.
Also looking at New Mexico but this is all 10 years away.
Scotty Con Queso said:In reply to Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) :
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Id pack my E36 M3 tonight and move to Ocean Springs, MS if it were just me. But I am supporting 4 addition humans, one of which has the final say in this game of life.
The MS coast is a true hidden gem. Florida without the Florida.
I will have to visit sometime. And sorry to threadjack, OP
I lived in FL from 1998 to 2015. Leaving was the best thing I ever did. I'm currently in process of helping rwo friends get out. Wages are Poor, jobs are mostly service sector, the political system is... dire. Heaven help you if you have a uterus.
FL is situated to be severely effected by climate change.
That being said, Publix has good subs and racing year round is cool.
I lived in Casselberry and Swimbo lived in Ormond Beach when we met.
If for some reason I were forced at gunpoint to move back I would be looking at the Bay area gulf Coast.
Punta Gorda, Port Charlotte, Arcadia. Something like that.
As for long distance moves. Sell as much stuff as you can. Everything you have is a headache.
First thing I did was make a list of everything I owned that could not be replaced. That list is a lot shorter than you think it is. I sold everything I owned and moved cross country on a plane with wad of cash in my pocket. That's the only way to do it if you ask me.
Sorry this isn't much "help" but some perspective.
I lived there 2004-2010. Far SE Hillsborough county (metro Tampa).
Hurricanes and the related insurance costs do suck.
I don't love heat and humidity but I expected that going in (and Atlanta isn't better). I like a change of seasons and winter in FL, while pleasant wasn't really winter for this Ohio boy.
I didn't love the traffic (worse than Atlanta IMO and that's hard to do) but that mostly only matters if you are working for the man.
The real down side was lack of topography. Too flat for me.
In reply to AClockworkGarage :
Lets just say you and I, well we likely won't ever agree on pretty much anything. It was here or Arizona for us, and this was a better political climate for us.
bobzilla said:In reply to AClockworkGarage :
Lets just say you and I, well we likely won't ever agree on pretty much anything. It was here or Arizona for us, and this was a better political climate for us.
Wait, so you're actually in FL or in the process thereof?
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