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wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
3/19/17 1:07 p.m.

If any of us ran car companies they would fail before the first year.

But I will play put me charge of BMW, I hire Bangle back, cars run a shock into the genitals of every driver of our cars who fail to use there turn signals.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Dork
3/19/17 3:15 p.m.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy UltraDork
3/19/17 11:09 p.m.

I'd create standard specifications for mounting the driveline into the chassis, including where and how the suspension subframe attaches and even the plugs for interfacing the drive train to the car. Something like the ATX computer chassis. Different car classes would have different specifications.

Then I would petition for the emissions testing for drivetrains to be performed separately from crash testing for bodies, ideally in a single representative chassis. Then I would offer the specs and drivetrains up over the counter to kit car companies and coach builders to build whatever they want.

jh36
jh36 Reader
3/19/17 11:38 p.m.

In reply to ncjay:

X2. The barest technology to pass regulations. Power nothing. No abs. No traction control. The performance model would come with easily adjustable camber/castor/sway bar. The engine would be moderate hp.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand UberDork
3/20/17 5:44 a.m.

Just curious, everyone here saying they would make a bare bones drivers car with "moderate power":

Do the Subaru/Scion twins make enough power?

jh36
jh36 Reader
3/20/17 7:27 a.m.

In reply to Robbie: In my opinion, yes. But too many features to make my dream come true. Sure, it's a dream. And get rid of those features, save the weight and I would enjoy the power more.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
3/20/17 7:56 a.m.
oldopelguy wrote: Then I would petition for the emissions testing for drivetrains to be performed separately from crash testing for bodies, ideally in a single representative chassis. Then I would offer the specs and drivetrains up over the counter to kit car companies and coach builders to build whatever they want.

That's pretty much true right now. The only thing you don't see is car companies selling their powertrains to other companies.

I know a few powertrains that were certified for many platforms in one car. It happens for the super high volume one all the time.

HippieWagon
HippieWagon New Reader
3/20/17 11:24 a.m.
RossD wrote: Ford: ... Make a truck based bronco and go directly after wrangler sales. It needs the same off road feel with washable seats, removable top, and rubber floors. Get a factory here in the states to start producing the rest of world ranger, like yesterday.

I am really confused what you think Ford is doing right now...isnt this exactly what they have announced?

gearheadmb
gearheadmb Dork
3/20/17 2:57 p.m.

Give me amc. Ill give you the eagle, the javelin, the wagoneer, and the cj line. All just like original, but with fuel injection and good rustproofing.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
3/20/17 3:49 p.m.
Robbie wrote: Just curious, everyone here saying they would make a bare bones drivers car with "moderate power":

I wouldn't necessarily do bare bones.

I would focus on:

  • low center of gravity
  • good suspension geometry
  • good visibility
  • decent power
  • reliable
  • easy & inexpensive to service
  • logical HVAC/radio/etc. layout

Its possible to do all of these things without giving up creature comforts. Yes, the cost might be higher, but in the long run it will be a much more enjoyable car to own for everyone.

So, basically what I said earlier

I'd make a bunch of cars I like and the general public has no interest in (see many suggestions throughout this thread). Then I'd get fired.
DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath SuperDork
3/21/17 5:56 a.m.

I'd be all about efficiencies of scale. Two engine families for everything.

For small cars and fwd there'd be an under 3 liter VR4 16v SOHC and under 1.5L narrow angle 8v VR twin with all the same parts. All versions use the same stroke and rods with different pistons and bore diameters (which also makes turbocharging more convenient).

For trucks and big cars, an ohv v8 with sizes under 6L and a mechanically very similar v6 under 4.5L.

Everthing across both families share rods, bearing diameters, waterpump housings, accessories, hybrid bits etc.

For chassis, every vehicle will mount the engine longitudinally. For my company's Camry equivalent, for example, this means the super short VR2/4 engines sit between the front axle and firewall, driving the front wheels. However, using the exact same architecture and just flipping the transmission from in front of the engine to behind the engine, my Camry platform now neatly mounts a 6.0 v8 driving the rear wheels of my 5 series competitor.

This obviously gets really fun when you flip the drivetrain direction on my Civic equivalent. V6 RWD Civic Si, anyone?

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