Which do think they would prefer to watch race COT or this
I was kind of expecting zombie Earnhardt Sr.
If that's true, the 24 hours of LeMons should be overrun by the rednecks, 
Since that car has Southern Comfort as a sponsor I'd say that one. When it comes to real racing, well, they are in the dark so I think they'll go for the 'purty cars'.
GregTivo wrote: If that's true, the 24 hours of LeMons should be overrun by the rednecks,
Not as long as most lemons events are held on courses with left and right turns
while I do not watch Nascar.. I am sure I would enjoy it if it used real "stock cars"
mad_machine wrote: while I do not watch Nascar.. I am sure I would enjoy it if it used real "stock cars"
+1
If they were even close to a OEM car it might be worth watching twice a year.
DrBoost wrote: Since that car has Southern Comfort as a sponsor I'd say that one. When it comes to real racing, well, they are in the dark so I think they'll go for the 'purty cars'.
Reading fail. I have to say it: NASCAR may not be real racing but at least the fans can read the decal on the hood.
Wowak wrote: I was kind of expecting zombie Earnhardt Sr.
Dale Vader? 
or would it be Darth Earnhardt?
and driving this
I thought this would be a link to the new dale earnhardt jr GPS...
http://www.switched.com/2009/04/18/dale-earnhardt-jr-gives-directions-with-new-gps/
It only knows left turns.
while i actually watch and enjoy nascar events, Id like it allot more if the cars were showroom stock plus safety upgrades and bolt on performance mods for racing. the whole "template" thing makes me nuts...
924guy wrote: while i actually watch and enjoy nascar events, Id like it allot more if the cars were showroom stock plus safety upgrades and bolt on performance mods for racing. the whole "template" thing makes me nuts...
Why do people always say that? Sure, I want to watch a bunch of crappy FWD family cars try to run 100 mph on a 1.5 mile track. Give me tube framed, 850 hp RWD cars please.
924guy wrote: while i actually watch and enjoy nascar events, Id like it allot more if the cars were showroom stock plus safety upgrades and bolt on performance mods for racing. the whole "template" thing makes me nuts...
They tried that for 50 years. It didn't work for many, many reasons. Some included: safety, cost, competitiveness and safety.
...And Smokey Yunick.
Wowak wrote: I was kind of expecting zombie Earnhardt Sr.
This deserves its own thread! starting it now..... Zombie Dale Sr vs Cyborg Richard Petty...
Kramer wrote:924guy wrote: while i actually watch and enjoy nascar events, Id like it allot more if the cars were showroom stock plus safety upgrades and bolt on performance mods for racing. the whole "template" thing makes me nuts...They tried that for 50 years. It didn't work for many, many reasons. Some included: safety, cost, competitiveness and safety.
Oh my brother, does it ever work check out the Aussie V8Supercars..... factory shells, 850 hp RWD sedans. They are awesome.
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/
They have it all over Nascar and came from the same type of roots, sedan based locally produced race cars.
Our primary concern with the Car of Yesterday was safety," said NASCAR competition director Robin Pemberton. "The fans hate that E36 M3
I LOLed
aussiesmg wrote:Kramer wrote:Oh my brother, does it ever work check out the Aussie V8Supercars..... factory shells, 850 hp RWD sedans. They are awesome. http://www.v8supercars.com.au/ They have it all over Nascar and came from the same type of roots, sedan based locally produced race cars.924guy wrote: while i actually watch and enjoy nascar events, Id like it allot more if the cars were showroom stock plus safety upgrades and bolt on performance mods for racing. the whole "template" thing makes me nuts...They tried that for 50 years. It didn't work for many, many reasons. Some included: safety, cost, competitiveness and safety.
They used to televise that over here. Those guys drive the dog mess out of those cars. Makes the NASCAR guys look like horse racing. I haven't been able to find them on Direct TV for a couple of years though. Wish I could.
Yep, its so much better that Marcos Ambrose came over to drive NASCAR. At least he knows where the money is. 
aussiesmg wrote: Oh my brother, does it ever work check out the Aussie V8Supercars..... factory shells, 850 hp RWD sedans. They are awesome. http://www.v8supercars.com.au/ They have it all over Nascar and came from the same type of roots, sedan based locally produced race cars.
With a top speed nearly 20 mph less than NASCAR, they'd be getting lapped at many US tracks. And I'd like to see these drivers survive the wrecks we saw yesterday at Talledega.
And, according to wikipedia, the Commedore is hardly a factory shell:
wikipedia wrote: For the model to be homologated, V8 Supercar granted the Commodore a custom fabricated bodyshell into which a limited number of production bodyshell panels are incorporated. As a result, the roofline is lower than production and the rear door is shorter such that externally the rear doors, roof and rear quarters all consist of specialised custom coachwork panels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V8_Supercar
After reading that wiki article, the V8 Supercar series seems nearly as spec as NASCAR. I see very little difference, other than NASCAR having safer cars.
Will wrote:DrBoost wrote: Since that car has Southern Comfort as a sponsor I'd say that one. When it comes to real racing, well, they are in the dark so I think they'll go for the 'purty cars'.Reading fail. I have to say it: NASCAR may not be real racing but at least the fans can read the decal on the hood.
Dooh! I feel like a NASCAR fan now, none too bright but still somehow proud of it.
Mel: I can't see E36 M3, can you? Terry: No problem, son, no problem...
Kramer wrote:aussiesmg wrote: Oh my brother, does it ever work check out the Aussie V8Supercars..... factory shells, 850 hp RWD sedans. They are awesome. http://www.v8supercars.com.au/ They have it all over Nascar and came from the same type of roots, sedan based locally produced race cars.With a top speed nearly 20 mph less than NASCAR, they'd be getting lapped at many US tracks. And I'd like to see these drivers survive the wrecks we saw yesterday at Talledega. And, according to wikipedia, the Commedore is hardly a factory shell:wikipedia wrote: For the model to be homologated, V8 Supercar granted the Commodore a custom fabricated bodyshell into which a limited number of production bodyshell panels are incorporated. As a result, the roofline is lower than production and the rear door is shorter such that externally the rear doors, roof and rear quarters all consist of specialised custom coachwork panels.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V8_Supercar After reading that wiki article, the V8 Supercar series seems nearly as spec as NASCAR. I see very little difference, other than NASCAR having safer cars.
Safer and faster cars, in fact.
Stock car as a term is to separate those NASCAR racers with full bodies from the Modified and Super Modified classes. The televised races are the NASCAR Grand National class. but they are called "stock cars" for the same reason thas "production cars" are called that in road racing, evn though there is damn little "production car" in them. It's to separate them from the open wheel classes.
Stock car:
Modified:
Super Modified:
As they go up, they look closer and closer to open wheel cars.
Kind of like how an SCCA "production" car, like this one:
has very little "production car" in it. Fiberglass hood, trunk, and fenders over a mostly tube frame...
On a side note there are still races that you can go see the old style stock cars run, sadly they are becoming fewer and fewer. Out where I live the old dirt tracks are gone, if they were still out here I would strongly consider building a car to run on the dirt. If they did I am sure I could talk my uncle into helping me build the car as he has already built several dirt track racers back when they did race around here.
I would love to figure out a way to get the support to start the track back up here again. As much as we all really rag on NASCAR, the dirt track stock cars really are about as grassroots as you can get. Hmmm actually that might be a good article for the magazine.
rebelgtp wrote: I would love to figure out a way to get the support to start the track back up here again. As much as we all really rag on NASCAR, the dirt track stock cars really are about as grassroots as you can get. Hmmm actually that might be a good article for the magazine.
Not sure about dirt, but building a cheap 4 cyl to run on asphalt tracks is pretty fun.Even with being "stock" there's still alot of work that goes into the cars.
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