Rob_Mopar wrote:
Yea looks like that's a rear brake mount:
I don't have any cantilever frames in my stash. I have one Chinese reproduction Gray Ghost that I was planning to just steal the 5-speed and front drum from, and a rough Sting-Ray Fastback orange 5-speed frame. I think that Fastback is a '73 frame.
A while ago I was thinking about finding a small frame Collegiate to make a Manta-Ray clone. This thread has me thinking about it again.
See, to me that hole is 90-degrees off since the bridge's arc follows the contour of the fender. I see a fender mounting to it but not a brake.
Of course, I have been an expert on these things for a little more than 24 hours.
Pete, if you have any American-built 26-inch cantilever frames that will accept a rear handbrake, let me know!
In reply to David S. Wallens:
Cool, I'll check it out - most are at our guitarist's house, as I've been trying to clear them out. I'll check and see what he still has.
Just for kicks, and before I strip off the rest of the good stuff and trash the frame, I decided to throw a Varsity fork onto the old StingRay. I know it's been done a million times before, but I wanted to see one for myself. It's cool, but I think it's the kind of thing that you would only want to do with a long framed StingRay.
When I was a kid, one of the kids in my neighborhood cut the legs off a StingRay fork. Then he slipped them over his forks so he had super-long forks. I think gravity/friction held it all together.
I remember seeing that too but even as a ten year old, it looked like a bad idea
I'm not saying that it looked like an awesome idea.
There is a bicycle junk yard next door to the bar I go to 5days a week. They always have cool stuff. I will pop in when they are open next time.
I think Schwinn had a lifetime warranty on frames. So you're good to go.
Jumper K. Balls wrote:
There is a bicycle junk yard next door to the bar I go to 5days a week. They always have cool stuff. I will pop in when they are open next time.
Thanks for looking. That reminds me, haven't checked eBay yet today.
RossD
PowerDork
7/21/15 7:54 a.m.
So why do they call them cantilever? I'm not spotting much that is actually cantilever...
In reply to RossD:
Cantilever is kind of a misnomer in this case, but in the Schwinn world, it refers to a frame with arched supports that extend from the rear dropouts, past the seat post and end at the front down tube. Compare the Speedster (cantilever) and the Camelback on the first page.
Cantilever frames look like big StingRays (but not like StingRay Fastbacks).
Call Al Petri & Son's in Lincoln Park, MI.
313-383-6523
Tell them Ryan told you to call up there. They have tons of NOS, Reproduction and used vintage Schwinn stuff. You never know what's in the back room. I worked there for about 5 years through High School
Mazda, thanks for the tip!
In reply to Rob_Mopar:
That looks like a fender mount to me. I think the brake mounts have a hole perpendicular to that orientation and are straight, not curved
In reply to monknomo:
My Stingray Fastback pit bike has that bolt hole as a combination mount:
Rob, thanks, that photo helps. I think the round or flat bridges have a hole that will work with a handbrake and a fender. It looks like the arched bridges have a hole that would only work with a fender because it's 90 degrees off.
Does that sound right? I admit, this is still all new to me.
In reply to David S. Wallens:
That is definitely right. If you look closely at Rob's picture you can see that the fender has a little "L" bracket that attaches to the much stouter brake mount. The other mount would need an "L" bracket on the brake, and that would be hard to make sturdy enough, I think.
The arched fender mounts aren't very sturdy, I don't think they'd stand up to braking forces, especially with the long arms on these old fashioned calipers. It's a real shame about that too, because I've got an old Schwinn tandem that would really benefit from another rear brake, but that's a no go without brazing.
One in Jacksonville if you need me to take a look for you.
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Thanks, Scott! It doesn't have the right brake bridge, though. It does show that these bikes are all over the place. I'm betting that there's one in my neighborhood, in fact. So buy online or wait for one around the corner?
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David S. Wallens wrote: So buy online or wait for one around the corner?
Bike shipping can get expensive in a hurry. You should be able to find something local. Also, hit up the flea markets. I always find Schwinns there and sellers are highly motivated. They never want to bring them home.
