I'm pissed at Google.

Pumpkin, Purple, et al:

I hear your point. I have no expectations, and Google has no obligation.

In my initializing this thread, there was a certain amount of respect and honor both for those that have served, AND for the Constitution (in my own back-handed kind of way). I expressed my frustration with the choices Google has made, as is my Constitutional right to do so. I understand they also have the right to do nothing if they choose, a right which I am prepared to die defending on their behalf.

You've made your point, but you've also changed the tone.

This could be a thread with a great deal of remembrance and honor, albeit accompanied with a little bit of bitching. It has instead turned to a great deal of bitching about thoroughly insignificant things (like whether or not Google has an obligation to do anything).

I understand they have no such obligation. I also understand that you have the same rights to express your viewpoints as I do, or Google does.

I respect that.

But the continual argumentative pissing match over the nuances of the legal aspects is tiring, and frankly disrespectful to all of the underlying issues of significance.

Google can do whatever they choose to. I'd be impressed if they made different choices, and I'm disappointed in the choices they have made. I expressed my opinion.

Is that OK?

SVreX wrote: Pumpkin, Purple, et al: I hear your point. I have no expectations, and Google has no obligation. In my initializing this thread, there was a certain amount of respect and honor both for those that have served, AND for the Constitution (in my own back-handed kind of way). I expressed my frustration with the choices Google has made, as is my Constitutional right to do so. I understand they also have the right to do nothing if they choose, a right which I am prepared to die defending on their behalf. You've made your point, but you've also changed the tone. This could be a thread with a great deal of remembrance and honor, albeit accompanied with a little bit of bitching. It has instead turned to a great deal of bitching about thoroughly insignificant things (like whether or not Google has an obligation to do anything). I understand they have no such obligation. I also understand that you have the same rights to express your viewpoints as I do, or Google does. I respect that. But the continual argumentative pissing match over the nuances of the legal aspects is tiring, and frankly disrespectful to all of the underlying issues of significance. Google can do whatever they choose to. I'd be impressed if they made different choices, and I'm disappointed in the choices they have made. I expressed my opinion. Is that OK?

plus a bunch

SVreX wrote: Is that OK?

It is all OK. I don't know that I have an ax to grind over any or all of this.

To some Pearl Harbor is a fact in a book, to others an embarrassment of military intelligence, or an opportunity for a rally cry to war, or a period of fear and imprisonment, and to some a source of great sorrow and loss.

When you toss something out on the internet you have to be willing to roll with what you get back. It isn't always going where you expect it to. That is what makes it interesting.

In reply to Pumpkin Escobar:

Ok, I made the mistake of saying holiday, I meant an important event in American History or a day of remembrance, but it came out wrong.

I also never said that they failed to meet my expectations or owed me anything. I said it was disappointing that they didn't do anything. That doesn't mean that I expected them to make a doodle.

I also said that people (not including myself) are now expectant of Google to recognize everything. I'm not standing up for these people, I'm just saying I know how people react to certain things from a free service. They are always wondering why a free service can't do more.

Why do people expect them to recognize everything? I don't know why, you tell me. I'm just going by the complaints I've seen.

I don't care what people expect and how Google reacts to their complaints, I have enough BS to deal with in my daily life to worry about what other people have a problem with. Sure, let them complain, what do I care? I was only speaking for myself and presented my own opinion on the subject.

I also definitely don't know if Google recognized the bombing of Pearl Harbor or not. If they did, good for them.

Honestly, you're blowing this way out of proportion, all I said is that I am a little disappointed that they didn't do anything. You apparently didn't read my original post from the first page. I know I made the comment about that they should drop them all together, but that is my opinion.

Listen, I'm not fighting you on this, I understand where you are coming from, I just want you to understand where I'm coming from.

SVreX wrote: Pumpkin, Purple, et al: I hear your point. I have no expectations, and Google has no obligation. In my initializing this thread, there was a certain amount of respect and honor both for those that have served, AND for the Constitution (in my own back-handed kind of way). I expressed my frustration with the choices Google has made, as is my Constitutional right to do so. I understand they also have the right to do nothing if they choose, a right which I am prepared to die defending on their behalf. You've made your point, but you've also changed the tone. This could be a thread with a great deal of remembrance and honor, albeit accompanied with a little bit of bitching. It has instead turned to a great deal of bitching about thoroughly insignificant things (like whether or not Google has an obligation to do anything). I understand they have no such obligation. I also understand that you have the same rights to express your viewpoints as I do, or Google does. I respect that. But the continual argumentative pissing match over the nuances of the legal aspects is tiring, and frankly disrespectful to all of the underlying issues of significance. Google can do whatever they choose to. I'd be impressed if they made different choices, and I'm disappointed in the choices they have made. I expressed my opinion. Is that OK?

I agree with this.

Just as a side note.....

bing.com remembered Pearl Harbor.

Take that, Google.

So did Ask.com.

Duly noted on page 1 of this thread.

FWIW, Google also chose not to commemorate today's anniversary of John Lennon's murder.

They got that one right even though there are probably more morons who remember that event over what happened in 1941.

I went and toured the USS Hornet in remembrance. Nothing to contribute to the discussion.

It appears I blew things out of proportion. I have a tendency to read into things further than those things ever meant to go, so to that end, I do apologize if I went from discussing to trolling.

I suppose I am am agreeing to simply disagree.

Pumpkin Escobar wrote: I suppose I am am agreeing to simply disagree.

I paid for an argument. This is a contradiction.

jrw1621 wrote: ...the Habachi style Japanese Steak House -- -- On Pearl Harbor Day????????

If the grand majority of survivors have met their tormentors and made peace with them (on many occasions both in HI and Japan) as soldiers doing their duty, I think we can cut a little slack here.

I think Admiral Nagumo said it best when, upon hearing the American carriers were nowhere to be found during the attack:

"All we have done is awaken a sleeping giant."

Pumpkin Escobar wrote: It appears I blew things out of proportion. I have a tendency to read into things further than those things ever meant to go, so to that end, I do apologize if I went from discussing to trolling.

Nothing but love over here, man. Nothing but...hey wait a minute... Now I'm sounding like a Beatnik Hippie or some such thing.

Forgiven.

Since everyone got all kinds of sand in their v....I'll take this away from the hostility.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I said it was disappointing that they didn't do anything. That doesn't mean that I expected them to make a doodle.

How can you be disappointed that they didn't do, what you weren't expecting them to do? Isn't that kind of a pre-requisite for being disappointed?? That some "thing" didn't happen that you were expecting to happen?

I mean, if you didn't ask for Red Rider BB gun for Christmas, then didn't receive said BB gun, how could you be disappointed?

I don't always expect my kids to do what I say.

Sometimes, I flat out expect them to go in the opposite direction.

Doesn't mean I am not disappointed.

There's not much of a correlation between expectations and disappointment. In fact, sometimes I find myself disappointed that my expectations WERE fulfilled.

My expectation of Google is that they will not impress me. Does not diminish the disappointment when they live up to my expectations.

Sometimes, I LIKE to be wrong.

You can twist, distort, ignore or change the meaning of any word to suit your particular fancy, which was kind of my point for posing the question.

Because "the failure to meet an expectation or hope" is EXACTLY the definition of "disappoint."

World English Dictionary disappoint (ˌdɪsəˈpɔɪnt)

— vb
1. to fail to meet the expectations, hopes, desires, or standards of; let down

So, your question was meaningless, except for the fact that you were trying to trap someone in a game of semantics?

I'm trying to decide if that comes as a disappointment to me, or if you have lived up to expectations.

I stand by what I said. No twisting involved. It reads pretty clearly and directly. Don't play stupid games. It is very disappointing.

BTW, you should read the definition again. It says, "expectation OR hope", inferring that they are not necessarily the same thing. If the expectation is hopeful, then failure to meet the expectation is a disappointment. However, low expectations are the opposite. If I expect you to fail and you succeed, it doesn't leave me disappointed. Use your head, man.

semantics are everything.

Lawsuits are won and lost over the placement of a comma.

Commas are punctuation.

Semantics are meaning.

Say what you mean.

Is that a win? No. Big loss.

As I said before, the continual argumentative pissing match over the nuances of the legal aspects (and semantics) is tiring, and frankly disrespectful to all of the underlying issues of significance.

I'm done, fellows. I have absolutely no interest in hearing any more of this crap. Bye.

The point is the placement of the comma changes the meaning.

I wasn't trying to be a douche.

Now back to the topic. Svrex, has a point. I'm 31, nearly 32, and people +/-2 years of me are the last to truly interact with those who actually experienced WWII. For example, I never met a person who fought in WWI. I do not have that human touch point and would have liked it. Nothing brings home a point like hearing it from someone who experienced it first hand.

We do need to remember and pay homage to the men and women that have lost their lives in the service of our country.

Is a google doodle the appropriate place? Probably not.

The point is IT, DOESN'T, MATTER,,,

SVreX wrote: The point is IT, DOESN'T, MATTER,,,

check my edit man... I hit the post button early.

I think I'd be pissed if they DID do a doodle to commemorate the date. The doodle is to light and funny for that.

Joey

z31maniac wrote: Since everyone got all kinds of sand in their v....I'll take this away from the hostility.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I said it was disappointing that they didn't do anything. That doesn't mean that I expected them to make a doodle.

How can you be disappointed that they didn't do, what you weren't expecting them to do? Isn't that kind of a pre-requisite for being disappointed?? That some "thing" didn't happen that you were expecting to happen? I mean, if you didn't ask for Red Rider BB gun for Christmas, then didn't receive said BB gun, how could you be disappointed?

Oh sweet Jesus. I thought this was over.

When I came to the realization that they hadn't made one, it was kind of disappointing. As a matter of fact, I didn't realize that they hadn't made one until I saw this thread.

I didn't wake up in the morning and jump on the computer expecting to see something.

End of story, I'm done. Keep throwing out whatever BS you want to make me sound like I'm a douchebag. I've said what I've said and read it however you want.

I'm on the same boat with SVreX.

Pumpkin Escobar wrote: It appears I blew things out of proportion. I have a tendency to read into things further than those things ever meant to go, so to that end, I do apologize if I went from discussing to trolling. I suppose I am am agreeing to simply disagree.

Hey man, it's cool. No hurt feelings.

I'm up for an argument anytime.