Dr. Hess wrote:Drewsifer wrote: If only beaterworld was right, I could have my GT-R and rule the mountain roads...Until that kid in the Eight Six blasts by you on the Downhill.
makes me wonder about the legalities of an American importing an R32 GTR from Canada for track use only. They're quite reasonably priced for what you get.
Since the car may be driveable, would it be wise to have the Canadian drive the car (which he fully owns) into the US and then perform the title changes in the US?
I know that Canada has some hefty taxes, could some of that be avoided if the Canadian unloaded his car in the US?
What would happen if the Canadian drove his old car (1970) south, where it then broke down? The repair bill was more than he felt it was worth so he unloaded it and took public tansit or called a family member to come get him.
jrw wins for text and graphics!
jrw1621 wrote:
Hey! That's me on the left with the Timmies mug in my hand! 
You can apply to have the sales tax refunded - it's easy and it's done all the time.
The border was never a problem for me. At the time the cars crossed, importation never came up for discussion - in one case because I didn't know I was going to end up importing the car. Once the cars were in the US, I did the paperwork.
Once the car's been imported and registered in the US, it's basically a US car. The fact that it was originally a Canadian market one is irrelevant for future transactions.
In reply to Keith:
True in the other direction too. My s/r has a black Canadian importation sticker inside the door near the compliance label. It makes the car Canadian for all intents and purposes.
I particularly liked the fact that the picture included Volvo 142's in the background. Notice the square roof lines.
Keith, why does the whole top half of your head move when you speak?
John
jrw1621 wrote: I particularly liked the fact that the picture included Volvo 142's in the background. Notice the square roof lines. Keith, why does the whole top half of your head move when you speak? John
It's easier than moving your jaw when you have a turtleneck on. Canadians don't have necks, you see.
jrw1621 wrote: Keith, why does the whole top half of your head move when you speak?
Why do your lips move when you read?
So I guess my next move is to call customs and my local DMV and tell them the story and see what stuff I can get out of the way before it's time to actually do the drive.
A little more about the car... Like I said, it's a 1970 Volvo 142. It was originally purchased in 1970 by my mom's brother's wife's mother. Okay, so I guess that would mean my aunt's mother. I don't know why I did that extra step. Anyway, about 12-13 years ago, she decided she wasn't so good at driving anymore so she gave the car to my aunt and uncle. A few years later she passed, and my uncle has been basically taking care of it since then. Last time I saw it in person, which was about three years ago, it had 44,000 original km on the clock, and I doubt it's over 50k now. It was in surprisingly nice, completely original survivor condition. Black paint was a bit faded, but there was no major rot that I saw. The last few years it's done some runaround duty in the summer, and aside from that it just got started and moved once a month or so to make sure everything still worked. I guess it just got a set of tires, as well as a bunch of wiring replaced that was starting to get dried out.
I figure I'll go up there with a set of brake pads and brake hoses, some cooling hoses and belts, and some basic tools. Change all the fluids, give it the once over, and head for Florida.
Somewhere on some computer I own I have some pictures. Last time I saw it it was a pretty fly ride.
jg
In reply to JG Pasterjak:
Canada went metric in the late 70's, so the car should be in miles. Like Keith, I got the car & truck here then did the paperwork.
I know Central Ohio is off your return trip path,but I'd be willing to help you if needed from say Findlay to Cinci on I-75.
JG said: I figure I'll go up there with a set of brake pads and brake hoses, some cooling hoses and belts, and some basic tools. Change all the fluids, give it the once over, and head for Florida.
Is it in my area?
Let me know if you need anything. I have a decent shop, most tools, and days off during the week.
I think it is nearby you. It's in Burford.
Tricky thing now is dates. My wife wants to go, so we need to balance her teaching and my magazine making schedules. I think we're hoping for late March at this point.
jg
It is. I'm about 15-20 mins north of Simcoe.
In late March the roads will be totally fine.
Family transfers can be done with no tax. MTO will not have a "black book" value on a 1970 Volvo 142 anyway.
I found the pix.
Talked to my uncle today and he said it recently got new tires, brake hoses, ignition parts, wires and plugs. O Canada!
jg
You'll never be able to register it in the states. They might even confiscate it at the border. I think the Mounties or the O.P.P.s, or the Border Patrol will shoot at you. They're still pretty hot about that old John Candy movie Canadian Bacon, and itchin' for some payback. It will turn into a fiasco-costing you tons of money in bribes, having to meet certain unsavory type people, and no guarantees. Heck, they make you stay until winter is all over-and I'm sure you have things to do between now and August. Tell you what. Have your uncle sell it to me for ,say, $100 and the headaches will be mine. Win-Win! He gets a hundred bucks, (U.S. I might add!), and you won't have to go to Canada. or get shot at. or arrested. or try to drive that old beater 1800 miles.
That is a nice one. My stepfather had one of them in dark green, same model, roughly same year with a black interior.
That thing hauls ass, even when standing still!
I dunno...didja see all the orbs floatin' around it...could be hainted.
Is that a telltale on the speedo?
She's pretty straight looking, ain't she?
Talked to US Customs today, and the dude gave me some really good info and a list of the forms I'd need. Not really that complicated, it turns out. at least not according to the anonymous government employee on the other end of the phone.
I'm not looking at late January for going up and getting it, as there's a motorsport trade show in Toronto and I can do some workin' as well. It's not really cold in Canada the last week in January, is it? Maybe I should bring some heavy shorts.
jg
Not in Toronto, that's not really Canada.
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