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petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/23/15 7:49 a.m.

I just checked and this moment I'm pulling 48.48Mbs down and 5.62Mbs up. The speed will take a noticeable drop around 3:30-4:00pm as people get home though.

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
7/23/15 9:39 a.m.

In reply to RossD:

Depends when you are on, the bigger the load on the network at that time, the slower you will be.

Will
Will SuperDork
7/23/15 6:37 p.m.
yamaha wrote: In reply to RossD: Depends when you are on, the bigger the load on the network at that time, the slower you will be.

Depends on the technology. Cable slows during peak load times because you share a connection with your neighbors. DSL doesn't do that, but is usually slower overall anyway.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UberDork
7/23/15 9:11 p.m.
Will wrote:
yamaha wrote: In reply to RossD: Depends when you are on, the bigger the load on the network at that time, the slower you will be.
Depends on the technology. Cable slows during peak load times because you share a connection with your neighbors. DSL doesn't do that, but is usually slower overall anyway.

Also depends on the provider. I think in many areas the days of off-peak crazy bandwidth are gone. The companies throttle everyone's connection even if there is tons of overhead available. Gotta incentivize the "turbo" plan somehow, right?

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/23/15 10:24 p.m.
RossD wrote: Does switching to a different DNS do anything for speed? Like google's free DNS?

If your ISP's DNS is underperforming.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
6/18/20 7:10 a.m.
cwh said:

OK, ran the test. Showed 15.4 download, 3.5 upload. Are these decent numbers?

I'd stab my own mother for those numbers. We get ~5-5.2 down and .5 up with our DSL. Our work connection is right around 100-130 down and 50-80 up depending on time of day. Early morning and late afternoon and the the numbers are higher, 

Placemotorsports
Placemotorsports GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/18/20 7:10 a.m.

We have Comcast 300mps and it does ok but is very inconsistent.  I constantly hear the kids yelling "I'm lagging!"  Even with a decent wifi6 modem it ramps up and down which I haven't figured out yet.

BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter)
BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/18/20 8:16 a.m.

In reply to Placemotorsports :

Lag is usually latency, not bandwidth. But pretty much all consumer ISPs have their bandwidth "up to" so how much you get depends on how many of your neighbours are currently watching videos instead of working .

BTW, for latency sensitive applications you want wired, not WiFi. WiFi may have the bandwidth but not the consistent latency, and that's before the data packet leaves the house.

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
6/18/20 8:35 a.m.
bobzilla said:
cwh said:

OK, ran the test. Showed 15.4 download, 3.5 upload. Are these decent numbers?

I'd stab my own mother for those numbers. We get ~5-5.2 down and .5 up with our DSL. Our work connection is right around 100-130 down and 50-80 up depending on time of day. Early morning and late afternoon and the the numbers are higher, 

Are you sure you're 5 down? Do you mean 5kbps? It took 5 years for you to reply. 

Placemotorsports
Placemotorsports GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/18/20 9:05 a.m.
BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Placemotorsports :

Lag is usually latency, not bandwidth. But pretty much all consumer ISPs have their bandwidth "up to" so how much you get depends on how many of your neighbours are currently watching videos instead of working .

BTW, for latency sensitive applications you want wired, not WiFi. WiFi may have the bandwidth but not the consistent latency, and that's before the data packet leaves the house.

I really want to just hardwire everything but that is a lot of cutting and hacking to get ethernet in all rooms of the house.  Did i mention we have 4 boys that are gamers?

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
6/18/20 9:06 a.m.

In reply to T.J. :

stupid canoes bumping into things..... but uploading things is best done on my phone off wifi or at work. 

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
6/18/20 9:08 a.m.

In reply to T.J. :

His AOL just said Hello and gave him the news

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
6/18/20 9:28 a.m.

In all honesty I never had AOL or used AIM

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
6/18/20 9:45 a.m.
bobzilla said:
cwh said:

OK, ran the test. Showed 15.4 download, 3.5 upload. Are these decent numbers?

I'd stab my own mother for those numbers. We get ~5-5.2 down and .5 up with our DSL. Our work connection is right around 100-130 down and 50-80 up depending on time of day. Early morning and late afternoon and the the numbers are higher, 

See I couldn't live out in the country without access to actual high speed internet. 

I'm sitting on my patio, waiting for my next meeting to start. 105 down, 12 up, sitting outside on WiFi.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
6/18/20 9:56 a.m.

My connection has gone from 20 to 30 to 100 to 50 over the past few years.

Honestly most people are deluding themselves with high numbers.  Pretty much the only way to achieve those numbers is during a speedtest... nowhere else on the internet is the a server that is going to send stuff your way at those speeds.  Unless you have 20+ devices all simultaneously downloading/streaming each from a different source.

 

 

ebelements
ebelements Reader
6/18/20 10:23 a.m.

Literally the first day working from home in March I realized how bad my Spectrum internet was. 20 down 2 up meant only one of us could videoconference at one time. Making matters worse is that her Macbook works as a remote terminal for her onsite Windows machine—if I streamed music you could see her screen refresh drop.

Called Cinci Bell that day—they offer gigabit fiber (on sale for $50/mo at the time) and let me tell you, I'm mad I didn't do this sooner. The site I usually use to check speeds is fast.com but the other two mentioned here work really well. Tested at the box, it's 900 down, but with the mesh networking setup I have things get limited to about half (not sure 100% why but that's what everyone says and what I'm seeing). Fast seems optimistic at 530 down, the other two are just below 400 which seems more likely. 

If you can get gigabit in your area, do it.

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
6/18/20 10:27 a.m.

149.5 down and 134 up. Local company ran fiber all over the past couple of years. The best part is it only costs me $51/ month. 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
6/18/20 10:38 a.m.
ebelements said:

Literally the first day working from home in March I realized how bad my Spectrum internet was. 20 down 2 up meant only one of us could videoconference at one time. Making matters worse is that her Macbook works as a remote terminal for her onsite Windows machine—if I streamed music you could see her screen refresh drop.

Interesting.  Sounds like you were not achieving 20 at all.  Video conferencing bandwidth is pretty low.  For example Zoom @ 720p is 1.8Mbps.  So yeah, your upload speed was an issue there for sure.  But remote desktop has really low bandwith needs, as does streaming music (Uncompressed CD Audio is still only 1.4Mbps, MP3s are ~0.1-0.3, streaming services are usually in that range or lower).  You *should* be able to do both of those on the lowest speed connection offered.

That said, I'm glad gigabit is working out well.  If I could get it for $50/month, I probably would (my 50 meg connection costs like $45).  That said, if I could get a 25 down, 5 up connection for $25, I would... but they don't offer any tier below 50 except 5.  And 5 is low enough that I would run into the upper end (upstream) fairly frequently.

 

Also of note to others, if you are having connection issues with multiple devices, do the math on your connection, its quite possible you have the bandwidth but there is another weak link in the chain... probably your router.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
6/18/20 10:40 a.m.
ebelements said:

If you can get gigabit in your area, do it.

They just started offering Gigabit in my area. But at the same time, they dropped my 300 Mbps connection by $45/month. 

Don't really see the need it for yet.

Mark L (Forum Supporter)
Mark L (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/18/20 10:44 a.m.

My optimum cable is rock solid. No complaints.

 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
6/18/20 10:44 a.m.
T.J. said:

149.5 down and 134 up. Local company ran fiber all over the past couple of years. The best part is it only costs me $51/ month. 

I hate you. Our wonderful 5 down .5 up is $78/month and is literally the only option unless we want satelite for $150/mo

 

Placemotorsports
Placemotorsports GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/18/20 10:44 a.m.
ProDarwin said:
ebelements said:

Literally the first day working from home in March I realized how bad my Spectrum internet was. 20 down 2 up meant only one of us could videoconference at one time. Making matters worse is that her Macbook works as a remote terminal for her onsite Windows machine—if I streamed music you could see her screen refresh drop.

Interesting.  Sounds like you were not achieving 20 at all.  Video conferencing bandwidth is pretty low.  For example Zoom @ 720p is 1.8Mbps.  So yeah, your upload speed was an issue there for sure.  But remote desktop has really low bandwith needs, as does streaming music (Uncompressed CD Audio is still only 1.4Mbps, MP3s are ~0.1-0.3, streaming services are usually in that range or lower).  You *should* be able to do both of those on the lowest speed connection offered.

That said, I'm glad gigabit is working out well.  If I could get it for $50/month, I probably would (my 50 meg connection costs like $45).  That said, if I could get a 25 down, 5 up connection for $25, I would... but they don't offer any tier below 50 except 5.  And 5 is low enough that I would run into the upper end (upstream) fairly frequently.

 

Also of note to others, if you are having connection issues with multiple devices, do the math on your connection, its quite possible you have the bandwidth but there is another weak link in the chain... probably your router.

I thought my router was the issue as well so I upgraded to the AX-8 Nighthawk and seem to have the same issues

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
6/18/20 10:47 a.m.
z31maniac said:
bobzilla said:
cwh said:

OK, ran the test. Showed 15.4 download, 3.5 upload. Are these decent numbers?

I'd stab my own mother for those numbers. We get ~5-5.2 down and .5 up with our DSL. Our work connection is right around 100-130 down and 50-80 up depending on time of day. Early morning and late afternoon and the the numbers are higher, 

See I couldn't live out in the country without access to actual high speed internet. 

I'm sitting on my patio, waiting for my next meeting to start. 105 down, 12 up, sitting outside on WiFi.

so when it was still actually country with noone and nothing around us I could deal. We can still stream TV etc. But once that was destroyed and now we're getting warehouses all around us yeah.... pretty pissed. If you're gonna berkeley up my little slice of heaven, the least you bastards can do is provide me with decent internet at a reasonable price. But berkeleying up my slice of heaven AND preventing good internet? berkeley off. Like seriously.... splintery baseball bats wrapped in rusty barbed wire dipped in lemon juice levels of berkeley off. Not that I'm bitter or anything

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
6/18/20 10:47 a.m.
Placemotorsports said:

I thought my router was the issue as well so I upgraded to the AX-8 Nighthawk and seem to have the same issues

What are your issues?

Placemotorsports
Placemotorsports GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/18/20 10:48 a.m.

With the netgear app this is what I get when no one is home sitting close by

 

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