pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
8/16/12 12:44 p.m.

What is happening in Washinton DC? This seems a bit overboard, why does the social security office and the weather bureau need ammo?

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/now-social-security-administration-to-purchase-ammo/?cat_orig=us

First it was the Department of Homeland Security, then it was the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and now the Social Security Administration is set to purchase 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets that will be delivered to 41 locations across the country.

A solicitation posted by the SSA on the FedBizOpps website asks for contractors to supply 174,000 rounds of “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition.”

An online ammunition retailer describes the bullets as suitable “for peak performance rivaling and sometimes surpassing handloads in many guns,” noting that the ammo is “a great personal defense bullet.”

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker UltimaDork
8/16/12 12:47 p.m.

So they can fight off grandma when she comes for her check and they ain't got no money left.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/16/12 12:50 p.m.

It'll be interesting to see if this hits the mainstream news outlets

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas HalfDork
8/16/12 12:51 p.m.

Am I the only one wondering what 174,000 .357 rounds look like?

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UberDork
8/16/12 12:53 p.m.

Probably for security guards...

If you figure that a common delivery for a guard might be, say 500 rds per guard, 41 locations.. it comes out to be about 8-9 guards per location..

stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
8/16/12 12:55 p.m.

Yup, everything on the Internet is true.

This sounds like an extension of that rumor claiming the national weather service was stocking up on ammo.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
8/16/12 12:55 p.m.

Crazy, conspiricy filled people do pose a threat.

Especially to agencies as visible as the Social Security.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/16/12 1:07 p.m.

Duh, zombie defense.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
8/16/12 1:11 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: So they can fight off grandma when she comes for her check and they ain't got no money left.

Makes sense.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/16/12 1:15 p.m.

WND link? Filing next to Bigfoot's Babies for now...

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker UltimaDork
8/16/12 1:30 p.m.

Did you guys ever notice the machine gun nests surrounding the Ministry of Love building?

BRB, someone is at the door.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
8/16/12 1:39 p.m.

Nahhh, you'll never find the 'proof' on the 'Net, Winston Smith has been working overtime at his memory hole.

yamaha
yamaha HalfDork
8/16/12 1:47 p.m.
JohnInKansas wrote: Am I the only one wondering what 174,000 .357 rounds look like?

Like 174,000 .40s/w rounds necked down to 9mm.......

and damn, if I had known about this before I sold my G33, I would have just "borrowed" some from the SSA office next door......

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/16/12 2:09 p.m.
JohnInKansas wrote: Am I the only one wondering what 174,000 .357 rounds look like?

62118 exactly. That's what it looks like.

octavious
octavious Reader
8/17/12 7:49 a.m.

http://oig.ssa.gov/sites/default/files/Brochure%20-%20Criminal%20Investigator.pdf

SSA has special agents just like many other large govt agencies. They carry guns and handcuffs and put people in jail. So maybe this is for their agents or criminal investigators.

I don't know why NOAA would need ammo. I'm guessing security guards or maybe they have agents as well. I can see SSA having agents to protect against fraud and others that steal from the social security, but I'm not sure what someone would steal from NOAA. Equipment maybe?

Hocrest
Hocrest HalfDork
8/17/12 8:20 a.m.
octavious wrote: I don't know why NOAA would need ammo.

It's all part of a new experimental plan to shoot down hurricanes.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Dork
8/17/12 8:50 a.m.

Maybe NOAA has some security responsibilities at its facilities. They do a lot of work on mapping (navigational hazards, geodetic survey, etc.), protecting endangered sea critters, and of course weather. Messing with navigation and weather reporting could be part of an attack, terrorist or otherwise. And some of the poachers get violent.

The main thing I know about NOAA is that it's not good to mistake uniformed NOAA folks for Navy personnel. Some get touchy about that ...

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
8/17/12 11:32 a.m.

I think slantvaliant's right; NOAA is considered part of national security therefore they would have contingency plans against attack.

Weather forecasting played a HUGE part in the D Day plans back in WWII. The night the decision was made to go ahead with the invasion was a huge gale, it must have taken some seroius talking on the part of the forecasters.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1463671/Bad-weather-nearly-brought-down-D-Day.html

http://www.ecmwf.int/research/era/dday/

yamaha
yamaha HalfDork
8/17/12 12:21 p.m.
Hocrest wrote:
octavious wrote: I don't know why NOAA would need ammo.
It's all part of a new experimental plan to shoot down hurricanes.

plus 1.......

I figured it would be armed security to keep people from disassembling their dopplers and selling them off for scrap

Chris_V
Chris_V UltraDork
8/17/12 3:44 p.m.
Apexcarver wrote: Probably for security guards... If you figure that a common delivery for a guard might be, say 500 rds per guard, 41 locations.. it comes out to be about 8-9 guards per location..

We have about 50-60 on-duty guards here at SSA HQ at any given time, plus an undisclosed number here at the facility that prints the checks. There have been attacks on SSA personnel in the parking lots before, so there are regular patrols out there. Add to that our 10 major facilities nationwide plus a couple of supposedly secret locations for backup operations and you get a pretty good number of guards that woudl use that ammo. While the place doesn't look anything like it's portrayed in the last Die Hard movie, it's pretty secure.

Now, this doesn't count the 1400 field offices around the world.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
8/17/12 11:07 p.m.

One of the requisition reports I saw had 7.62x39 listed as some of the ammo being obtained. For those that don't know firearms that is the standard ammo for AK type rifles. This is not a standard caliber for any government used weapon.

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