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Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy UberDork
4/19/13 8:50 p.m.

They are saying the homeowner saw blood on the boat and went out and looked in and saw the suspect.

That homeowner is counting his blessings right now.....after he changed his shorts.

The0retical
The0retical Reader
4/19/13 10:17 p.m.

Hooray. Saw that they caught him with FLIR and a helicopter after a homeowner tipped him off. Of course that could just have been the news jumping to conclusions.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
4/19/13 10:20 p.m.

I don't usually promote profanity but in this case I will make an exception.

I am so very glad this is over with. It has turned our week here in MA / Boston up side down. I not knowing what was going on this morning tried to go to work in Boston today only to be greeted by Massachusetts finest in Waltham. When I told them where I was going they politely told me that going to Boston to day was not in the cards.

Now we here in MA can get back to some sort of normal again. I would like to thank all the local, state, and federal LEOs that did a great job.

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
4/19/13 10:28 p.m.

The onion on CNN's news coverage for this issue:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/cnn-releases-photos-of-3-obese-mexican-women-suspe,32112/

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/19/13 10:50 p.m.

I am very much pro-profanity. berkeleying kickass job by law enforcement. 9 hours after the pics were released, the first waste of sperm was DRT. I'm sure it was "inconvenient" for the residents of MA, but holy E36 M3, they handled business with the berkeleyin quickness.

Nice work, team.

alex
alex UltraDork
4/19/13 11:26 p.m.

I sincerely hope - though I highly doubt - the law enforcement world has learned from the mistakes of the Dorner debacle and we won't have to witness another American police force trip over their dicks for so long again. What BPD et al did in those 18 hours from the shootout early this morning was a pretty damn impressive show of not just force but coordination.

I'm shocked in the best possible way that this kid was brought in alive. I thought for sure that boat was going to be his coffin.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp UltraDork
4/19/13 11:50 p.m.
RexSeven wrote:
Knurled wrote:
yamaha wrote: In reply to RexSeven: And he will probably trade that Intel off for dropping the death penalty......
Rufledt wrote: I thought child killers didn't fare well in the prison "community".
No death penalty in MA. If he survives his injuries he will rot in solitary for the rest of his life.

I have a feeling even in solitary he will not last long.

alex
alex UltraDork
4/19/13 11:57 p.m.

He'll be charged federally, so the death penalty is indeed on the table.

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
4/20/13 12:00 a.m.
RexSeven wrote: No death penalty in MA. If he survives his injuries he will rot in solitary for the rest of his life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States
"The death penalty is currently a legal sentence in 32 states and in the federal civilian and military legal systems."

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
4/20/13 12:11 a.m.

I wonder if he could be classified as a "Enemy Combatant", and all that that entails.

The precedent that that would set might be a bit scary.

fasted58
fasted58 UberDork
4/20/13 12:16 a.m.

No Miranda for you

The Boston Marathon bombing suspect captured Friday night will not be immediately read his Miranda rights, a Justice Department official said.

The announcement came as a debate broke out among lawmakers, lawyers and political activists over whether the suspect, Dzhokar Tsarnaev, 19, should be prosecuted in a civilian criminal court or subjected to military interrogation — and over when and whether Tsarnaev should be told about his right to an attorney.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/no-miranda-rights-for-now-for-bombing-suspect-90362.html#ixzz2QyfyHTTX

alex
alex UltraDork
4/20/13 12:47 a.m.

The DA who was interviewed after his capture indicated that the feds would be charging him, which would indicate standard criminal procedure. In that case the USAG would make the final call on whether the death penalty is sought. Of course what she said in an interview obviously isn't gospel, but I thought that was interesting.

This is no where near over...

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/20/13 1:49 a.m.

It is federal level.......not state. Federal has a death penalty, and they will be happy to use it.

The0retical
The0retical Reader
4/20/13 2:11 a.m.
JoeyM wrote: The onion on CNN's news coverage for this issue: http://www.theonion.com/articles/cnn-releases-photos-of-3-obese-mexican-women-suspe,32112/

I'll be right there to hunt her down!

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 SuperDork
4/20/13 5:36 a.m.

Glad this is over, but the media keeps asking if these kids were highly trained. Fortunately, I don't believe they were well trained in any aspect. If they were, I feel that their homemade devices would have been much more potent....

I saw one conspiracy sight where the tinfoil hat wearing author and some of the 4chan community believed the bombings were the actions of contractors wearing tan boots and khaki bdu pants lol.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
4/20/13 6:32 a.m.

I find the Miranda Rights thing pretty interesting. I just hope it does not backfire and become the center of the entire trial which sets him free..
It also presents a slippery slop. He is a US Citizen (even if just recent.) I would hate to think of more liberties and right being removed.

On the other hand, if he does have a political agenda, he is more than sure going to want to talk about it so I expect he will not remain silent.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 Dork
4/20/13 6:51 a.m.

US citizen = Civilian trial w/the rights provided for a citizen.

mtn
mtn PowerDork
4/20/13 6:58 a.m.
aircooled wrote: Really don't like the idea of shelling out 40 grand (or whatever) a year to keep him alive for the rest of his life.

It is cheaper to keep him alive than it is to give him the death penalty. I'd rather have him live. Maybe show him pictures every day of the people that he killed and the lives that he ruined. And have bacon smells wafted in, then give him gruel to eat.

This is assuming that he is guilty. I don't see how he can't be, but it has not been proven in court yet.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
4/20/13 7:05 a.m.

I was hoping this young tender little boy would have to play don't drop the soap for the rest of his life. So soft. So young.

Maybe he can be one of bubba's 40 virgins.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess UltimaDork
4/20/13 7:51 a.m.

Article on the Miranda exception: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-19/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-wounded-serious-condition-will-get-public-safety-exception-miranda

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
4/20/13 7:51 a.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: I find the Miranda Rights thing pretty interesting. I just hope it does not backfire and become the center of the entire trial which sets him free..

Proper procedure is ultra-ultra important just for this very reason.

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
4/20/13 8:47 a.m.
mtn wrote:
aircooled wrote: Really don't like the idea of shelling out 40 grand (or whatever) a year to keep him alive for the rest of his life.
It is cheaper to keep him alive than it is to give him the death penalty. I'd rather have him live. Maybe show him pictures every day of the people that he killed and the lives that he ruined. And have bacon smells wafted in, then give him gruel to eat. This is assuming that he is guilty. I don't see how he can't be, but it has not been proven in court yet.

Sorta offtopic- Whether or not they execute him, I don't see how it's cheaper to keep him alive, than dead. Bullets don't cost a whole lot, and there's plenty of weapons already in gov't service, so it's not like you need to go buy a new glock to pop someone on death row. I mean I get it, humane execution and all, but let's be realistic. China has a bus that goes from place to place to execute death row prisoners. They don't even HAVE death chambers. I think the US needs to get its E36 M3 together.

JeffHarbert
JeffHarbert GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/20/13 8:57 a.m.

It's cheaper to keep him alive because of how our laws work in death penalty cases. People sentenced to death get a nearly unlimited number of appeals, and it costs the government an enormous amount of money to fight those appeals. By seeking life without parole (or any other sentence, for that matter) the government would save more than enough money to house and feed him for the rest of his life.

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
4/20/13 8:59 a.m.
JeffHarbert wrote: It's cheaper to keep him alive because of how our laws work in death penalty cases. People sentenced to death get a nearly unlimited number of appeals, and it costs the government an enormous amount of money to fight those appeals. By seeking life without parole (or any other sentence, for that matter) the government would save more than enough money to house and feed him for the rest of his life.

Maybe.
http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/20/13 9:06 a.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: Article on the Miranda exception: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-19/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-wounded-serious-condition-will-get-public-safety-exception-miranda

Good read. Thanks.

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