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Nitroracer
Nitroracer SuperDork
6/15/11 7:03 p.m.

The new regal gs is impressing me more with each new bit of news that creeps out.

General Motors said: It's also worth mentioning that, with 135 horsepower per liter, the new boosted Ecotec boasts the highest specific power output of any engine in GM's history. It's also the most power-dense rating the SAE has ever officially recognized. That's impressive stuff.

Video in the link http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/15/2012-buick-regal-gs-hits-track-with-270-hp-15-more-than-planned/

familytruckster
familytruckster New Reader
6/15/11 7:11 p.m.

270 shouldn't be too bad, since they were getting 700+ out of boosted ecotecs 10 years ago.

Wonder if there will be a GNX?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/15/11 7:13 p.m.

are those hood vents I spy?

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/15/11 8:02 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: are those hood vents I spy?

The portholes just keep moving up.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/15/11 8:03 p.m.

well.. they might be useful up there

fasted58
fasted58 HalfDork
6/15/11 10:16 p.m.

This is not your father's Buick

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Reader
6/15/11 10:26 p.m.

The more I see that car, the more I like it.

Moar European GM, GM!

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
6/15/11 10:29 p.m.

If I was in the market for that type of vehicle, that Buick would get a very serious look from me.

I love the styling and all.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/15/11 10:56 p.m.
fasted58 wrote: This is not your father's Buick

My father's Buick was a RWD, turbocharged, mean, beast of a car:

His father's Buick was also a RWD, Big-Block, mean beast of a car:

And his father's Buick was a RWD, stylish, and FAST beast of a car:

(I don't think anyone in my family has ever owned a Buick, I was just illustrating that Buick actually has a long and storied performance car heritage.)

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Reader
6/15/11 11:09 p.m.

As awesome as the performance heritage of the brand may be, the last cool Buick was in 1987, and the targeted crowd for the new Regal was in diapers at that point in time.

I'd personally be all over a 65 Riv. Mmmmmm.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
6/15/11 11:27 p.m.

My first ever car trip was in a Buick, coming home from the maternity ward; Dad loved really loved those portholes.

Except for the 70-72 GS models, I never even considered owning one.

Until now.......

dj06482
dj06482 GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/16/11 4:50 a.m.

The new one looks incredible!

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
6/16/11 8:42 a.m.
Javelin wrote:
fasted58 wrote: This is not your father's Buick
My father's Buick was a RWD, turbocharged, mean, beast of a car: His father's Buick was also a RWD, Big-Block, mean beast of a car: And his father's Buick was a RWD, stylish, and FAST beast of a car: (I don't think anyone in my family has ever owned a Buick, I was just illustrating that Buick actually has a long and storied performance car heritage.)

Awesome! You totally Chris V'd them!

Joey

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/16/11 8:52 a.m.

I sat in the new one at the auto show and the wife and I both really liked it. We may ve to wait a bit longer for a new car and get one.

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/16/11 9:08 a.m.

Its nice to see that GM got something out of their time owning SAAB.

16vCorey
16vCorey SuperDork
6/16/11 2:02 p.m.

What did that have to do with SAAB? I thought that car was from the Vauxhall/Opel folks?

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
6/16/11 2:28 p.m.

Still an old person going to church nameplate with that styling, IMO. As for power, I see ricer math is kicking in again.

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/16/11 2:36 p.m.

Turbocharging experience.

EcotecThe Ecotec name was adopted in 2000 for the new generation of Family II engines. The name was already used for the Opel GM Family II engine, Family 1 and Family 0 ranges. GM intends this new Ecotec to become its global 4-cylinder, and it has already fully replaced their OHV I4 line.

The Ecotec Family II is a DOHC 4-valve design with an aluminum block and head (L850 for 86 mm bore applications, and L880 for 88 mm bore), designed for displacements from 1.8 to 2.4 L. It was developed by an international team of engineers and technicians from Opel's International Technical Development Center in Rüsselsheim, Germany, GM Powertrain in Pontiac, Michigan, and Saab in Trollhättan, Sweden. Much of the development work on this project was carried out by Lotus Engineering, Hethel, United Kingdom. The engine uses aluminum pistons and cast iron cylinder liners. Vibration is reduced with twin balance shafts.

The current Ecotec line is manufactured in Tonawanda, New York and Kaiserslautern, Germany. Until the discontinuation of Saturn, it was also produced at a plant in Spring Hill, Tennessee.

From here:

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/16/11 3:41 p.m.

In reply to joey48442:

Que? Chris V?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/16/11 3:43 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote: Still an old person going to church nameplate with that styling, IMO. As for power, I see ricer math is kicking in again.

How so? GM has made 1500+ HP Ecotec Turbo's, so a production 270HP should be a walk in the park. Heck, didn't the GM Power Pack (from the dealer post-sale) for the Cobalt SS Turbo/Sky Redline/Solstice GXP make 300HP?

triumph5
triumph5 Dork
6/16/11 3:58 p.m.

Please define "power-dense rating". Power per weight??

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
6/16/11 4:25 p.m.

Power per litre. It's ricer math.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
6/16/11 4:55 p.m.

Yes, there was a dealer kit to get 315hp from that motor.

hp/l is ricer math hp/lb is racer math

This motor does well with both.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/16/11 5:46 p.m.

Our take on the latest Regal: http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/new-cars/2011-32-regal-cxl-turbo-sedan/

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado SuperDork
6/16/11 6:11 p.m.
oldsaw wrote: My first ever car trip was in a Buick, coming home from the maternity ward; Dad loved really loved those portholes. Except for the 70-72 GS models, I never even considered owning one. Until now.......

Never got to drive the GNX, but got to drive a college buddy's Regal T-Type on a road trip. Might have been the first time I ever said, "..I can't believe this is an American car!" The suspension & brakes on that car were a lot better than I expected.

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