ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
4/2/15 7:19 a.m.

Background: I have about 3/4 acre of very poorly kept yard. Lots of weeds, grows like...well, weeds, in the summer - like it really needs cut weekly to look decent. I rarely cut it that often, so the yard is usually a little shaggy. I don't like yard work. I used to hate it with the burning hate of 1000 suns, but last year I started to find a zen peace with it. Still don't like it and would rather be doing something else, but also am okay with getting it done and I feel good about it once it is done. I did landscaping for a while after college and enjoyed it for a while, so maybe I'm starting to recapture some of that. Part of this change was taking a little better care of my ancient monster riding mower. It came with the house, 42" cut Murray tractor with a 16hp Briggs V-Twin that looked like it came off a Harley. Loud as berkeley. Missing most bodywork and with poorly welded add-on bars to achieve a redneck Mad Max sort of asthetic. I have a love-hate relationship with the thing. I had to work on it regularly, parts were hard to get, and it wasn't real fast. It took me 2+ hours to mow the yard completely, plus another half hour weed eating. If the damn weed eater ran, which it hasn't in a while and it sucked when it did. My wife has been telling me for five years to get a new mower, but when it ran the damn thing was unstoppable.

Well, last sunday the engine finally let go. Like, it sounded like I mowed over a cast iron chevy intake, then a lot of clattering, then a locked up motor with smoke coming out the dipstick tube. I sold it for $80 on CL and counted my blessings.

But now I can't decide what to do. I don't have the funds to buy a used mower. Most of the riding mowers on CL around here that are in better shape than mine are $500-$1000 dollars. After medical bills last year and both cars needing tires, savings are tapped, plus I feel like I'd be buying the same frustration I was having. No thanks. That leaves me two options:

A. The local commercial mower shop has a 0% financing offer. I can buy something like a 24 horse commercial-grade 48" cut ZTR and a Stihl weed eater and be around $125/mo for 42 months. Plusses are: The ZTR should cut my mow time in half (increased ground speed, more likely to mow more often if I can turn key and go.) I also have the option to mow when and as needed instead of waiting on someone else's schedule, and yard guys are notoriously fickle. I get a shiny new mechanical toy. Minusses are: Including fuel and regular maintenance costs, it puts me out about $1650 per year. I still have to block out a couple hours a week (including fueling and weed-eating) and do the work myself, taking me away from other things I want/have to do. Once I buy I'm essentially locked into a 4 year contract that I have to pay off to break.

B. I have a neighbor with a lawn care business. He generally won't do a contract for less than $200 a month, but he said he would beat anybody else I got a quote from since we're neighbors. I think I could get him to mow, weed, and blow the yard to my satisfaction for $150 a month on a 12 month contract. I don't know him, really, but we've both lived on the street six or eight years. He's done the lawn care thing for several years but tends to focus on irrigation systems. Plusses are: I don't have to do anything about the yard and can spend that time on other hobbies. If thing's don't work out I can always stop the service and buy a mower. Minusses are: I'm out $1800/ year indefinitely, maybe more. Might piss off a neighbor if I break contract, ask for too much, etc. I have no real idea about his dependability, and I know he's already cutting his rate and doing something that isn't his prime focus, which makes me worry about commitment level. IF something happens I don't have a backup plan besides going out and buying a mower. Part of me has issues paying money every month without some real property to show for it.

Part of me feels like I should be doing this myself, and I was getting a certain level of satisfaction out of it. The other voice in my head says if I'm paying every month, I might as well be paying to have someone else do the work so I can go play if the difference isn't that much. I can afford either of the figures above without much trouble, but much more would start to pinch.

So...any advice? Experiences?

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
4/2/15 8:03 a.m.

Do you use that 3/4 acre, or just look at it?

I'm being serious- you mentioned it going to weed- you can also say that it's the natural state of what it is. Nothing wrong wiht that, as I see it. Maybe find some trees that are also native to the area, and scatter a few around to let grow.

Get a push mower for the small stuff around the house, let the yard be wild, and call your self a conservatist. Or something like that.

That satisfies two things- the question of buying a mower or not, and your dislike of yard work.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
4/2/15 8:12 a.m.

LOL. I tried going the 'conservation route and didn't mow for a year (the back yard that is. The tiny front yard has to be mowed regularly or the county cops get called. ask me how I know ) In one season the back yard was as tall as the six foot privacy fence and our dogs were covered in ticks. That doesn't take into account the increase in rodent and snake activity or the fact the shrubs that grew required a chainsaw to take down. So unfortunately, not an option in the sunny south that is a lot like living in a tropical jungle. The vegetation WANTS your house. It NEEDS your house.

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
4/2/15 8:21 a.m.

ah.

I, then, would have voted to the rebuild, but that ship sailed.

The monitary vs. life thing, I can't really help. Can't really see spending that much money on something I don't like, so would be a cheapskate and get a used tractor. Mow every other week, or so. And plant a lot of trees, to reduce the grass footprint.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
4/2/15 8:24 a.m.

You have 3/4 of an acre. You don't need a riding mower. It probably slows you down because it can't get nook/crannies you need to weed whack. Buy a regular mulching mower from Home Depot or find one cheap on CL and push it.

Next, if you have shrubs or plants in the middle get rid of them. If you have trees put a large diameter perimeter around them - if they are close together surround all of them. Plant tenacious ivy or place mulch anywhere that is not used as a yard. The goal is to eliminate anything you would have to weed whack and any spaces a mower has to move slowly in.

Now, either just cut the grass or pay a neighbor kid $10 to do it.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde UltraDork
4/2/15 8:39 a.m.

I know you guys haven't seen the yard, but a push mower would make it a half day affair. No way in hell I'm going that route. I worked landscaping, I know what a good push mower can do, and a half a football field of foot-tall weeds and pot holes is not the right environment. It's all open ground except for one tree. With a 42" deck tractor I was only weed-eating along the house and fence. There wasn't a section of yard I couldn't mow with the rider.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
4/2/15 8:55 a.m.

In reply to ultraclyde:

The point was to get rid of the weeds and potholes in a weekend so you have a reasonable surface to mow. You might have to put in a shift to get it sorted. I mow 3/4 of an acre on a hill in 45 minutes with a 24" honda push mower. This isn't really a big problem. So, then you don't really have a yard but an untended field. Tend the thing first.

If you really don't want to push it... I see ride-ons in front yards for sale all the time with prices in the $250 range. CL has plenty. 3/4 acres of open ground should take all of 20 minutes with a decent speed mower and 42" swath.

Methinks you just hate the lawn and should probably see if you can find a guy to cut it for you for $30 a week.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UberDork
4/2/15 9:08 a.m.

I'm going to call BS on 3/4 of an acre in 45 mins on a hill.

I have a 3/4 acre plot, it takes me about 45 minutes to mow. However, once you subtract unmowed area - thick trees at the back of the lot, and my house, driveway, mulched area for bushes, its only about 10,000 sq. ft, or 1/4 acre.

That said, I'd rather spend 2 hours mowing a lawn with a push mower that's reliable than berkeley around trying to keep a piece of E36 M3 riding mower operational. Plus, push mower takes up way less garage space :)

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
4/2/15 9:29 a.m.

Has it been mentioned, if the engine is not rebuildable, perhaps a replacement engine. Or is the rest of the mower in too bad a condition ?

rcutclif
rcutclif HalfDork
4/2/15 9:30 a.m.

My advice (seriously) is to sell that 3/4 acre to another house (3/4 acre should be plenty for another house but might depend on your zoning/neighborhood), or just move.

Say you get it done for $150/month * 12. $1,800/year. How many hours do you put in at your day job to make $1,800 after tax?

or, you spend 2 hours a week on it 35-40 weeks a year. how much do you get paid after taxes to work 80 hours (a full two weeks)?

If you (if/and your family) don't get any enjoyment out of the big yard or maintaining it: not. worth. it.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
4/2/15 9:34 a.m.

In reply to ProDarwin:

You are correct. My house is on 5 acres of which 1 acre around the house was tamed into a yard but I should subtract the driveway and sidewalk from that and I already took out the house at 1/4 acre. Still... it's decent size yard and I treat mowing it like a 45 min cardio workout.

I have taken great care to remove any obstacles to me running the mower. This year I even get to burn the swingset to get rid of that irritation!

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