oldtin
UltraDork
1/18/13 9:26 p.m.
Zomby Woof wrote:
oldtin wrote:
Yes, because whoever has an original idea and puts forth the effort to create something should give it away so others can profit from their work.
It's one thing to create something and make money. It's quite another to keep going back to the well.
So if I write a book, I better sell the first one for a lot of money
My buddy wrote two books. I did the illustrations for both. Shortly after the first book was published, the illustrations I did were scanned and put on the internet. Mostly un-credited.
Most websites complied with our requests when informed the un-credited images were copyrighted material. Only one guy was a dick. He backed off and removed the images when informed the next correspondence was going to be from the publisher's legal team.
So give proper credit to the sources of the images.
Redhornet wrote:
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You MUST have permission and the secure the rights in order to do the above. Using another person's/company's content as your own is (I'm pretty sure) plagiarism. You MUST ALSO give credit to whomever created said content.
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ABSLOLUTELY NOT. That is copyright infringement and you WILL get a letter/email from the Ford legal department. (Incedentally it's not a "motto", it's called a tagline, advertising jargon, sorry to be a picky-pickingston, it's the years of being in ad agencies...)
A couple minor points:
You don't necessarily have to give credit -- that's up to the copyright holder and the licensing agreement you work out with him. Frequently that involves giving credit but not always (that's what ghostwritten books are all about).
The "motto" is actually a trademark, and using it without permission would be trademark infringement, not copyright infringement. There are three main types of intellectual property in the US, copyrights, trademarks, and patents, and they're quite different in the details of what they protect and how they work. For instance, with trademarks the holder is required to defend it against unlicensed use, and if he fails to do so then he can lose the exclusive use of it. This is one of the reasons why companies actively resist having their brand names used as generics ('kleenex' for tissues, 'xerox' for photocopiers).
Zomby Woof wrote:
oldtin wrote:
Yes, because whoever has an original idea and puts forth the effort to create something should give it away so others can profit from their work.
It's one thing to create something and make money. It's quite another to keep going back to the well.
I own a building that's - in parts - over 100 years old and I still charge a ton of rent for it. Am I greedily "going back to the well?" :-)
Enyar
Reader
1/21/13 8:32 a.m.
SVreX wrote:
I have a question...
Why build a website if you want to use other people's material?
If all you are trying to do is post pics of stuff you like, use Facebook, or one of the photo posting sites.
Why bother building a site? Does your site have a purpose, like a product to sell, or a service to promote? Is it an advocacy site?
I'm not understanding why you would go to the trouble to build a site if you don't have an independent purpose for it to exist. Can't you get your own pics and articles? Do you ever intend to monetize it in any fashion? Then don't use other people's stuff.
Well for starters, the website is for a car that is not yet on the market/on the road yet...so it would be hard to get a picture of it.
The site is similar to GRM, a discussion board to talk about an upcoming car. No products or services to sell, just discussion.
How can I check trademarks? Also, how is it possible for sites like tdiclub and mazda6club to exist? Those are clearly trademarked names.
oldtin
UltraDork
1/21/13 8:56 a.m.
Enyar wrote:
Well for starters, the website is for a car that is not yet on the market/on the road yet...so it would be hard to get a picture of it.
The site is similar to GRM, a discussion board to talk about an upcoming car. No products or services to sell, just discussion.
How can I check trademarks? Also, how is it possible for sites like tdiclub and mazda6club to exist? Those are clearly trademarked names.
US patient office manages trademarks. As for sites like TDIclub - VAG's application to trademark the term TDI was rejected by the patent office so it's fair game. Some modifications to the name may provide enough separation to make it less of an issue. Also on the PR front, most manufacturers really don't want to be known for suing their most loyal fans. Also in setting up the sites it's entirely possible they contacted the mfg's PR office and have some level of blessing/permission/understanding.