Sonic
Sonic Dork
1/29/12 8:32 p.m.

2012 promises to be a great year for our team, and as we have expanded to another car, we need more people. Our base of operations is in Birdsboro, PA (east of Reading). This year we are going to run all 4 northeast races. We have at least two spots open for all of the races right now, ideally for those who are local enough to come and help out with the builds. Here is a bit more about our team and history:

People: We currently have a 4 member core team, with several others who have run with us for multiple races in the past, and one new local. Our team works because of attitude, everyone gets along, everyone contributes to the best of their skill set to the varied needs of the team, and we are all team players, racing for fun, while trying to do as well as we can.

Cars: We have a 91 Honda Civic Wagovan, with the very obscure 4WD system, with plenty of NLA parts. It is reliable, comfortable, easy to drive, handled quite well, but has been fairly slow. Never missed a beat in the races, track days, and testing days. This year we have added a turbo, 22 gal fuel cell, and a few other tweaks to refine it. It is a mid pack B class car in the past, though with the mods it will probably be in A now.
Secondly, we have our new project for this year. Details are not completely public yet (though will be soon), but nobody else has done it, it is guaranteed to be an absolute riot, and I can’t imagine it will end up anywhere but class C.

How we roll: We have a good history of clean driving, have a good reputation with the Judges (I’ve judged twice) and others, and want to keep it that way, while having a great time. Our mechanical skill varies from mine pretty good fabricators to people with basic mechanical skills. Everyone has been improving in their skills with a wrench as we build the cars, and everyone will help to the best of their ability and have others around for direction, and we usually all stay busy. We end up having build days or weekends every 3 weeks or so, depending on our schedules. Sometimes more often, sometimes less, and not everyone has to be there, but we try to make as many as possible. Our builds are in a small two car garage, but it is enough! We've built cages here and have the specialty tools for it. We aren't ultra competitive people, but like to do well, but have a great time while doing it, and one of these days we may really try to push the Civic to see how well we can really do. Keeping the car in one piece and turning laps is our ultimate priority, so shifting a bit short of redline and giving up a corner to some overcompetitive asshat is the norm: he can crash as he overdrives and we keep turning laps, this is an endurance race. We have a team RV, a tow vehicle or three, and a new flatbed trailer. We stay at the track, bring plenty of great food and booze, have a great tailgaiting/track camping setup. We have a nice setup, great group, and just have a great time.

We typically find that a race costs about $800 all in, which includes not only the car and getting it there, but consumables, tires, food/booze, Lemons fees, testing day, etc. We always run testing day to shake the cars down, get more seat time for everyone. With 4 people/car there is guaranteed to be plenty of seat time, and if one car breaks, there will be seat time in the other. Both cars are mechanically fairly simple with good parts availability, and we have some spares to keep them going. My point being, this is not a basic level of racing, we try to run the best race possible, and give a lot for the cost, as that’s how we like to roll ourselves. The only things you need to take care of yourself is your driving equipment (we have 2 DefNders that you can use in the car), some sort of lodging/tent/whatever (staying at the track is highly recommended), and your lemons comp license.

When we brought on additional teammates for the Wartburg, we had a quick survey to get a little bit of info about people to get the conversation started. We’ve done that again here, so please click the link and fill out the survey

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MPMCPQQ

I can be reached at abbottcd at gmail

MG Bryan
MG Bryan Dork
1/29/12 10:59 p.m.

I wish I could jump on this, but I'll be totally unavailable for all of June, July, and August.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/30/12 12:48 a.m.

damn... if only I still lived in Sinking Spring

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam SuperDork
1/30/12 4:38 a.m.

Yea, if only I had a big-boy job where my shift didn't change every month and I didn't just starting playing bass in a very busy band...

Duke
Duke SuperDork
1/30/12 9:21 a.m.

Just a little too far away for me. Sounds like fun, though. Good luck!

Klayfish
Klayfish HalfDork
1/30/12 11:29 a.m.

For anyone interested, I'm the local newbie, and the one with basic mechancial skills...and I mean basic . This is a really cool group to work with. Know their stuff, have a lot of fun, and a great attitude. The new project is going to be awesome! If you can join in, you should.

bluej
bluej Dork
1/30/12 1:38 p.m.

hmm..

DaveEstey
DaveEstey Dork
1/30/12 1:44 p.m.

I can't help you build but I'd be more than happy to help you crew the two races in New Hampshire.

ohms
ohms New Reader
1/30/12 2:14 p.m.

im about 2.5 hrs away...and my gf (well, wife, practically...) will be away this summer for an internship....i have no qualms about driving over whenever im needed (fri night - weekend).....i will do the survey later and see if im a fit for you guys (if you will consider me even though im not very local). ive wanted to do lemons for a long time, but couldnt round together a reliable group to run with...would be cool to join a team thats already got this down pat

Sonic
Sonic Dork
1/30/12 9:09 p.m.

MG Bryan: That's OK, there is a race in April, May, and October. Most of the help we need is now anyway, unless the cars blow up, which we try to avoid.

Duke: You're only like an hour and a half. We aren't asking for every weekend or every race, just whatever people can manage. It is about fun.

Bluej: Same for you, and if you want to talk about it more, just email me.

Ohms: One of our team is up in your neck of the woods in northern jersey, I'm sure you could carpool down here for work days, and my house is always open to teammates to crash - we have 2 furnished extra bedrooms, plus a sleeper sofa, air mattresses, etc. Not being a neighbor is not a problem. Please do fill out the survey or email me.

The survey is just a fun way to start the conversation, no deep and thoughtful answers are required and "I don't know" is certainly acceptable.

DaveEsty: Done! Food and drinks on us!

bluej
bluej Dork
1/30/12 9:50 p.m.

No SP in June?

Sonic
Sonic Dork
1/30/12 10:31 p.m.

Absolutely summit point in June! That's probably my favorite race of the year.

ohms
ohms New Reader
1/31/12 12:15 p.m.

thanks sonic that sounds awesome then - i did the survey and emailed you too, some other stuff.

Sonic wrote: Ohms: One of our team is up in your neck of the woods in northern jersey, I'm sure you could carpool down here for work days, and my house is always open to teammates to crash - we have 2 furnished extra bedrooms, plus a sleeper sofa, air mattresses, etc. Not being a neighbor is not a problem. Please do fill out the survey or email me.
MG Bryan
MG Bryan Dork
1/31/12 12:18 p.m.

I filled out the survey. I'll be in basic during the June race and I might in SOI during the October race. I don't have the cash right now, but I can make that happen. I'd be happy to chat more via email if you think I might work with the team.

motomoron
motomoron Dork
1/31/12 4:39 p.m.

I filled it out. I live in the DC area, but I'm an SCCA club racer and have instructed on Shenandoah quite a bit. Also, I'm a good mechanic/machinist/fabricator/weldor and have a shop w/ all that stuff 1-1/2 hours from Summit Point.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan Dork
1/31/12 10:37 p.m.
motomoron wrote: I filled it out. I live in the DC area, but I'm an SCCA club racer and have instructed on Shenandoah quite a bit. Also, I'm a good mechanic/machinist/fabricator/weldor and have a shop w/ all that stuff 1-1/2 hours from Summit Point.

I feel outclassed.

Klayfish
Klayfish HalfDork
2/1/12 7:10 a.m.
MG Bryan wrote:
motomoron wrote: I filled it out. I live in the DC area, but I'm an SCCA club racer and have instructed on Shenandoah quite a bit. Also, I'm a good mechanic/machinist/fabricator/weldor and have a shop w/ all that stuff 1-1/2 hours from Summit Point.
I feel outclassed.

How do you think I feel? My mechnical skills at this point are oil changes and brake pads (slowly). But they're a great group of guys and I'm learning as much as I can. So far, I haven't cut off any appendages or anyone elses.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan Dork
2/1/12 8:23 a.m.
Klayfish wrote:
MG Bryan wrote:
motomoron wrote: I filled it out. I live in the DC area, but I'm an SCCA club racer and have instructed on Shenandoah quite a bit. Also, I'm a good mechanic/machinist/fabricator/weldor and have a shop w/ all that stuff 1-1/2 hours from Summit Point.
I feel outclassed.
How do you think I feel? My mechnical skills at this point are oil changes and brake pads (slowly). But they're a great group of guys and I'm learning as much as I can. So far, I haven't cut off any appendages or anyone elses.

I'm a pretty decent mechanic. I can weld, but I wouldn't feel comfortable welding much of anything on a car other people will be in. I've never been on track and haven't even been able to make it to an autocross.

I am much closer than DC though!

ohms
ohms New Reader
2/1/12 10:13 a.m.

i feel kinda outclassed by others here too. i can boast that i daily drive a peugeot though! for whatever thats worth...haha

Sonic
Sonic Dork
2/1/12 6:15 p.m.

There is so much more to it than just having mad fab skillz yo.

Everyone here, we have and have read the survey results and will be contacting you shortly. A work project is keeping me busy today and tomorrow, so Friday.

Thanks to everyone so far, this is a great group, and the decision will be difficult

DaveEstey
DaveEstey Dork
2/1/12 6:33 p.m.

Did you want me to fill out the survey to crew or should I just PM you my contact info?

Sonic
Sonic Dork
2/1/12 7:06 p.m.

Dave, just PM or email me with your contact info. Thanks!

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