This one always kind of picks me. They even copied the side intake although it's probably faux on the nitro
This one always kind of picks me. They even copied the side intake although it's probably faux on the nitro
In reply to nutherjrfan :
New Acuras and Mazdas are using reds that I really like. Mazda made their Soul Red Crystal a hair darker this year and it makes the color look deeper.
Suprf1y said:I was going to say, everything these days looks the same anyway, but I guess I'm just getting old.
The people who made that chart have gone out of their way to make them similar. They're all the same color, the wheels are blacked out, they've been rescaled so that vehicles are all the same size, and the lighting and angles are set up to make the details in the body shape less apparent. I suspect you'd see the same thing if you applied the same techniques to US 4 door sedans of the 60s.
Also keep in mind that CAFE regulations are the same for everyone, as are the laws of physics and aerodynamics. The wind tunnel shows you the most efficient shape.
Datsun310Guy said:My favorite
I think a lot of modern cars are quite samey, but there's also a lot of superficial color-and-angle matching going on in these pics which pushes the old human pattern-matching buttons.
In reality, the only way you are going to get a totally different looking car.. is to buy something french
In reply to mad_machine :
Back in the day I always thought these were a poor man's BMW too - if my memory is correct these were RWD too?
In reply to Datsun310Guy :
Yup. Rear drive through 1982, I believe.
In reply to Datsun310Guy :
I thought it was a Dodge Challenger at first glance.
nutherjrfan said:Since moving to SE from NW I haven't been walking lately so I did go from downtown to home earlier this month.
In a city that can not shut the absolute berkeley up about diversity I lost count of the number of Paneras, Chipotles, Five Guys, Subways, LePain Quotidiens, Cosis, etc, etc, etc, etc, that I walked by in about an hour.
People are brain dead. I'm sorry I shouldn't say that but look around. We're wallowing in E36 M3 - massively overpriced E36 M3 at that.
I suppose my Instagram posts should give me some hope but naw once those people die and the old places get yuppified DC will be just as sterile as Arlington Va.
I suppose I should have some hope. Whilst taking some 20 somethings from a suburban part of Arl. to the downtown of Arl. they were joking about how each neighborhood in the region has to get the newest small franchise to add to their identity.
&Pizza, and Matchbox, Teds Bulletin, small local corporations ready to go nationwide and in every single berkeleying popular neighborhood region wide.
Each one packed and minting money.
One sandwich chain was an absolute machine and beloved of by every douche for a hundred miles until the owner lauded a particular politician and his sales plummeted 40% the very next day. The very next day. He went bankrupt. Zombies. Zombies. Unthinking do what everyone else is doing Zombies.
Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. At least my hood has a pizza joint from the 1936 if I remember correctly the sign outside and the YES organic mkt failed miserably. There is of course absolutely nothing else over here. Well liquor stores but not too many thankfully.
What are you talking about?
mad_machine said:In reality, the only way you are going to get a totally different looking car.. is to buy something french
And then you're stuck riding the bus, which all look the same
In reply to TopNoodles :
That's because it's a mistubishi and they had the sameface problem in the 80s too
dean1484 said:nutherjrfan said:Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
What are you talking about?
Shhh... He's rollin'
In reply to dean1484 :
everything needing to be the same for it to sell.
If you don't like it ignore it.
We'll make it mutual.
Impala SS
Same year BMW. Pay special attention to the quarter window.
In reply to Appleseed :
To be fair, the "hofmeister kink" has been a BMW design feature since the 60's
Dodge Omni and VW Rabbit?
Grtechguy said:These may actually be licensed from Jeep as off-road only. Local powersports shop sells them.
That doesn't really count, since Mahindra actually used to make CJ2s under license. They just never stopped making them.
paranoid_android said:Dodge Omni and VW Rabbit?
That would be the Simca Horizon, which was Chrysler of Europe's answer to the Golf.
A few years later, Chrysler made it struts instead of torsion bars, bought 1.7l engines from VW, and sold it in the US as the Omni.. and Horizon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simca-Talbot_Horizon
I find it funny that practically every example of "crappy American compact" is actually borrowed from Europe or the UK. I think the only truly American compacts were the Corvair, Pinto, Vega, and EEK/Neon.
Jumper K Balls (Trent) said:In reply to Appleseed :
To be fair, the "hofmeister kink" has been a BMW design feature since the 60's
I think Pontiac got into trouble by trying to sue BMW for the kidney grills too.. only to get the tables turned on them in court
mad_machine said:Jumper K Balls (Trent) said:In reply to Appleseed :
To be fair, the "hofmeister kink" has been a BMW design feature since the 60's
I think Pontiac got into trouble by trying to sue BMW for the kidney grills too.. only to get the tables turned on them in court
Other way around, BMW sued Pontiac. Pontiac had precedence dating back to the 60s, though.
BMW kind of had a point. The other month, I thought I saw an '80s Grand Am closing at a high rate of speed in my rearview mirror. It was actually a 128i. Although I think I'd rather have a Pontiac than one of those turds. All the weight of a 3 series without the interior space.
Nobody remembers the time Subaru mimicked a low rent VWAG brand.
My wife owned a 1986 Grand Am SE that had the BMW kidney grills/monochromatic paint scheme. I ended up driving it as our family beater car.
Sad thing for me was she first wanted a Monte Carlo SS.
dean1484 said:nutherjrfan said:Since moving to SE from NW I haven't been walking lately so I did go from downtown to home earlier this month.
In a city that can not shut the absolute berkeley up about diversity I lost count of the number of Paneras, Chipotles, Five Guys, Subways, LePain Quotidiens, Cosis, etc, etc, etc, etc, that I walked by in about an hour.
People are brain dead. I'm sorry I shouldn't say that but look around. We're wallowing in E36 M3 - massively overpriced E36 M3 at that.
I suppose my Instagram posts should give me some hope but naw once those people die and the old places get yuppified DC will be just as sterile as Arlington Va.
I suppose I should have some hope. Whilst taking some 20 somethings from a suburban part of Arl. to the downtown of Arl. they were joking about how each neighborhood in the region has to get the newest small franchise to add to their identity.
&Pizza, and Matchbox, Teds Bulletin, small local corporations ready to go nationwide and in every single berkeleying popular neighborhood region wide.
Each one packed and minting money.
One sandwich chain was an absolute machine and beloved of by every douche for a hundred miles until the owner lauded a particular politician and his sales plummeted 40% the very next day. The very next day. He went bankrupt. Zombies. Zombies. Unthinking do what everyone else is doing Zombies.
Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. At least my hood has a pizza joint from the 1936 if I remember correctly the sign outside and the YES organic mkt failed miserably. There is of course absolutely nothing else over here. Well liquor stores but not too many thankfully.
What are you talking about?
A lot of his posts seem to have been taking a turn towards the incomprehensible lately. Or at least as if he's continuing his half of a conversation the rest of us never participated in.
Huabei RV:
Where have I seen that before...oh yeah:
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1029301_attack-of-the-clones-chinese-copies-of-the-honda-cr-v
Datsun310Guy said:In reply to mad_machine :
Back in the day I always thought these were a poor man's BMW too - if my memory is correct these were RWD too?
I bought a Mazda 626 new in 1980, mine was blue. Underpowered (but most cars were in 1980) but drove and handled very well. I still have an article from AutoWeek where they described it as a budget alternative to a BMW.
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