914Driver
914Driver Dork
2/5/09 6:33 a.m.

My son bought a 2008 GTi in Atlanta last year for, I think $26k and paid 6% sales tax. His Ga. plates expire and he lives in NYC, so he's registering it in NY. He's 25 now so the insurance is about the same, but with a NY plate in NY you don't get pulled over as often as a tourist.

He steps up to the DMV window with all the forms and they want $2300. in NYS taxes. He shows the receipt of sale that shows he paid 6% in Georgia.

"Sorry, we don't recognize Georgia. You can always write them a nice letter and ask if you can have the money back".

WTF! Now he has to cough up another $2300 for a car he already owns? Talking to him last night he was thinking of flying to Atlanta (it's cheap now) re-registering it in Georgia and flying back.

New York mismanages enough of our money.

Berkeley 'em!

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
2/5/09 7:02 a.m.

they did kinda the same thing to me in south carolina when I registered my truck here from PA.

Property tax.. $$$$$

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/5/09 7:32 a.m.

Actually they should not be able to claim state tax on a non state purchase that was taxed. I would contact your congressman and/or the press.

confuZion3
confuZion3 Dork
2/5/09 7:54 a.m.

So are you saying that when I move to New York from PA, I'm going to have to pay sales tax again on my Miata!?

Duke
Duke Dork
2/5/09 7:59 a.m.

Most states do that when you transfer registration. You have to pay sales tax (or transfer tax) on book value of the car. It's fairly common practice. It sucks majorly, but it's common.

Hey, you're lucky you live in a state that doesn't charge you that every renewal!

Will
Will Reader
2/5/09 8:04 a.m.

Tennessee does it too and it sucks, but it is tax deductible at least.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/5/09 9:26 a.m.

HA-HA! Washington doesn't!

Seriously though, it sucks, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal. If he's already paid taxes on it in the state of purchase then it's no longer a "new" or "just bought" good. I'd call the local news and be the squeaky wheel...

carguy123
carguy123 Dork
2/5/09 9:32 a.m.
Duke wrote: Most states do that when you transfer registration. You have to pay sales tax (or transfer tax) on book value of the car. It's fairly common practice. It sucks majorly, but it's common. Hey, you're lucky you live in a state that doesn't charge you that every renewal!

I've recently had to transfer car titles to Florida and California and neither of them re charges the tax or even a large fee.

Now Cali does charge everyone much more for tags and such than does Florida or Texas

iceracer
iceracer Reader
2/5/09 9:57 a.m.

Apparently it is legal. There is even a form, DTF 804, that you can use to get credit for the tax paid in another state. I would argue the $2300 tax, since NYS sales tax is 8%. Some counties charge an extra percent. It also seems that they are going by the sale price.

914Driver
914Driver Dork
2/5/09 10:16 a.m.

I talked to Ian this morning. When he stepped up to the window he showed his NY drivers license, he thinks the woman assumed he bought the car in Georgia to beat out the taxes. He's going to try it again but use his Georgia license saying he just moved here, which is true.

Maybe he'll just have to pay the 2% differential.

Dan

Type Q
Type Q HalfDork
2/5/09 10:50 a.m.

There was a big stink in California a few years ago because the the state was charging $350 to register a car that didn't originally have CA emissions equipment on it. I paid it on my Civic when I moved here from Boston. Someone took the state to federal court saying that it amounted to a tax on interstate commerce. The court agreed and I got $350 back from the DMV about two years after I registered it.

confuZion3
confuZion3 Dork
2/5/09 11:04 a.m.

I paid $100.00 for the berkeleying Miata! Am I going to have to pay 20 times that in tax? berkeley those shiny happy people!

poopshovel
poopshovel SuperDork
2/5/09 12:44 p.m.

Pretty sure most states do this. I know Georgia used to. They call (ed?) it an "Impact Fee." I'm assuming the "Impact" part means impact on Georgia roads, traffic, berkeleying environment, whatever. Sorry dude. Cost of living in NY is crazy. Hopefully there was a big pay increase to go with the move.

All that being said, I'd do the GA thing, assuming he still has a GA license. I'm guessing he can find a plane ticket for ~$100 each way, and as long as he keeps it clean (no parking tickets, no beers before driving, etc.,) he stands to save a pant-load of money. He just needs to be sure to keep everything related to driving (Insurance, etc.) at the GA address. Dunno if he's going to be able to get a job, find a place to live, etc. with a GA license. Sorry dude. berkeley the man.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
2/5/09 1:56 p.m.

I will stay right here, thankyaverramuch. We might be backwards ignorant sister lovin' rednecks but AFAIK we don't overtly steal from the Yankees who move down here.

914Driver
914Driver Dork
2/5/09 2:01 p.m.

He holds both NY and Georgia licenses.

Georgia also has an "Ad Velourum" (sp) tax, it's based on your car's value and you pay it every year; not the first two years on a new car. I guess every State gets you one way or another.

Sorry Dude, actually a pay cut! $75,000 in Atlanta to $55,000 in NYC; but in NYC he works 40 hour weeks with sane people. ATL was 75 hour weeks, they could call you in at anytime and most of the customers figured out that if you eat half a meal and bitch, they don't have to pay for it.

He says you can't buy sanity and peace of mind for $20k.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 HalfDork
2/5/09 4:07 p.m.

I had the opposite happen to me....

I moved from NY (where i paid sales tax on my car) to Indiana, where they gave me a refund on the sales tax pro-rated, which happened to pay for a years registration and a case of beer!

Mental
Mental SuperDork
2/5/09 4:49 p.m.

Useless to this discussion. New York, explained by Legos

914Driver wrote: "Sorry, we don't recognize Georgia....

...and you friggin Yankess tell us we can't let go of the war!

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/6/09 2:04 a.m.
Mental wrote: Useless to this discussion. New York, explained by Legos

That is hysterical.

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA Reader
2/6/09 7:51 p.m.
John Brown wrote: Actually they should not be able to claim state tax on a non state purchase that was taxed. I would contact your congressman and/or the press.

Absolutely. Here in CA, they hit you up for 300 bucks if you attempted to register a "49-state" emissions-compliant car instead of a "50-state or "California" car. The courts threw it out as unconstitutional.

Also, the Constitution says states must recognize taxes imposed by other states so there can't be "double jeopardy. Sounds like these states are trying to grab some cash before the courts intervene.

Hal
Hal HalfDork
2/8/09 8:02 p.m.
Duke wrote: Most states do that when you transfer registration. You have to pay sales tax (or transfer tax) on book value of the car. It's fairly common practice. It sucks majorly, but it's common. Hey, you're lucky you live in a state that doesn't charge you that every renewal!

This why my wifes car is in her name only. She bought a new Cougar in 1967. Since she was only 19 at the time she had to have her mothers name on the title to get financing.

Two years later the car is paid off and we are getting married. Mother wants her name off the title. If we put my name and the wifes on the title the state of Maryland wants sales tax on the book value of hte car. But her mother can give her the car with no taxes as long as it is only in the wifes name.

My neighbor moved here to MD from VA. VA has the "personal property" tax that you pay every year. He had paid that 3 months before he moved to MD. He still had to pay the MD sales tax when he registered their 3 cars in MD.

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