ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
3/14/10 12:22 p.m.

Man vandalizes lobster gear, taunts old man who has a shotgun, he grabs shotgun, and gets shot. Old man acquitted.

Lobster, serious business.

http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/138901.html said: ROCKLAND, Maine — A Matinicus lobsterman and his daughter wept Friday as a Knox County jury acquitted them of charges in connection with a shooting on the town dock last summer. Vance Bunker, 68, who also has a home in Owls Head, sighed and hung his head with relief while Janan Miller, 46, of Matinicus and Spruce Head placed her face in her hands and cried. Both had claimed they acted in self-defense in an escalating dispute over vandalized lobster gear. A dozen or so of the defendants’ family members and friends also wept joyfully as the jury of eight women and four men announced their verdict about 5 p.m. Friday after deliberating for more than 10 hours over two days. Testimony in the trial began Monday morning and ended Thursday afternoon. Christopher Young, 42, of Owls Head, the man Bunker shot on July 20, was not in the courtroom. Neither was his stepbrother Weston Ames, 44, of Matinicus and Owls Head, who also was named a victim in the case. They spent Friday waiting for the verdict in the district attorney’s office on the first floor of the courthouse. Relatives of the two men were in the courtroom with the Knox County victim-witness advocate. They too wept as they went to inform Young and Ames of the verdict. Television cameras surrounded Bunker and his family as they left the courthouse. “I just want to thank everybody,” a tearful Bunker said as he and his family left the courthouse. His daughter declined to comment. The not guilty verdict also means Bunker is free to return to Matinicus. His bail conditions had banned him from the island. “I’m relieved for Vance and Janan,” Bunker’s defense attorney, Philip Cohen of Waldoboro, said after his client left. “These were serious charges.” Today's Poll Do you agree with the verdict in the Matinicus lobster trial? Yes No View results Bunker was charged with two counts of elevated aggravated assault, criminal threatening and reckless conduct. Miller was charged with reckless conduct for bringing a loaded shotgun to the town dock and pointing it at Young, Ames and their sternmen. In answer to a reporter’s question about concern for his client’s safety on Matinicus, Cohen said, “I know that he’s concerned about it.” William Avantaggio, Miller’s Damariscotta attorney, said he was not concerned for her safety on the island. Knox County Sheriff Donna Dennison said after the verdict that her department was ready to respond if needed on Matinicus but had not sent a deputy to the island as a result of the verdict. “If [Bunker] calls and asks for assistance the first time he returns to the island, we certainly would do that,” she said. “What I’ve gotten from people on the island is that they just want to put this behind them and get back to work.” Knox County District Attorney Geoffrey Rushlau expressed disappointment over the verdict and said the victims were disappointed too. “I’ve just spent the last several minutes with Mr. Young and Mr. Ames,” the prosecutor said at an impromptu press conference on the courthouse steps after the verdict was announced. “They’ve been told about the verdict and right now they don’t want to talk to the media.” Rushlau praised the jury for its hard work and its careful consideration of the legal application of self-defense. “This is the process we have and we have to respect it,” he said. “This jury worked hard and this is a difficult area of the law to apply. We had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendants didn’t act in self-defense.” The jury seemed to be focused on the issue of self-defense when they asked Friday morning that interviews with Young and Bunker be replayed. The interviews were taped by law enforcement officials as part of their investigation into the shooting. One section replayed for the jury described Young’s confrontation with Janan Miller’s husband, Alan Miller. “We wanted Alan to come up on the dock,” Young said. “We said, ‘Come up on the f—-ing dock. We’ve got something for you.” The jury then also reheard Bunker describing the moments that led up to his pulling the trigger. “Wes grabbed the shotgun and started taking it away from Janan,” he said. “Once he grabbed the gun I didn’t know what the hell to do. I shot twice. The first time at Wes, and I missed. The second time Chris lunged for me.” The events leading up to the shooting, according to testimony during the trial, are rooted in the tradition that allows only people who own property and vote on the island to fish in Matinicus water. State law allows fishermen to work in zones where they are licensed to fish. Last June, Alan Miller set lobster traps around Matinicus for the first time. He previously had fished in Wheeler Bay and knew most Matinicus lobstermen were opposed to his setting traps around the island, according to testimony. The day before the shooting, Ames confronted Bunker and Alan Miller on the dock over lost gear. Ames accused the two older men of cutting his traps, which they denied. About 6 a.m. the next morning, Young boarded Bunker’s boat without permission and threatened to kill the captain before Bunker pepper-sprayed him, witnesses testified earlier this week. Later that morning, Ames and Young chased Alan Miller’s boat and made threats his wife heard over the radio that lobstermen use to communicate with each other and relatives onshore. Janan Miller told the jury that after the chase broke off she saw her husband’s boat coming into the harbor and Ames and Young waiting for him on the dock. She told the jury she grabbed a shotgun, which she did not know how to use, and ran to the dock to protect her husband, whose life she believed was in danger. Bunker testified that he brought a loaded .22-caliber revolver to the dock after he learned the brothers were there waiting for his son-in-law. Neither she nor her father knew a Marine Patrol officer was on board, hoping to overhear a confession of gear cutting. Officer Wes Dean testified that he heard but did not see the shooting. If he had been convicted of the most serious charge, elevated aggravated assault, Bunker faced up to 30 years in prison and a fine of up to $50,000. His daughter faced up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. Young and Ames filed a civil suit last year against Bunker, Miller and her husband, Alan Miller, 60, of Spruce Head and Matinicus. That suit is pending in Knox County Superior Court.

edited for clarity.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
3/14/10 12:33 p.m.

guns are for pansies, bring your fists to an argument. Dont bring a gun unless killing someone is in the cards....bob castases use weapons, men use brains

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
3/14/10 12:34 p.m.
4cylndrfury wrote: guns are for pansies, bring your fists to an argument. Dont bring a gun unless killing someone is in the cards....bob castases use weapons, men use brains

dude, I'm joking.. I've been an internet tough guy too.. Still funnay.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
3/14/10 12:51 p.m.

picking on internet tough guys is funny stuff! I hope one shows up in this thread for us to pick on

In all seriousness, whether youre in the right or not, brandishing a firearm over an argument is not acceptable behavior. Some nutjob wants to remove your face or see how far your childs body can fly? Dont stop squeezing until youre empty. Some douchenozzle decided hes gonna tell you exactly what he thinks of your sports team after yours lost and you think putting a 9mm in his nose is the right course of action? Well, lets just say I hope you get what you deserve...in the shower on the first day your there

JtspellS
JtspellS New Reader
3/14/10 1:03 p.m.

This is an extreme case of what happens, usually it ends up with bait inside the accused's truck or something along the lines of that nature, but you would be suprised how many people actually carry when they go out, than again there can be alot of drug boats that are in and out of those area's. Funny thing is i was rased about 30 miles NE of this.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
3/14/10 1:41 p.m.

God, that was the most rambling news story I've ever read. Without the summary at the beginning I'd have had no idea what it was all about.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/14/10 5:21 p.m.

Lobster is serious business in New England. As youngsters a friend of mine tired to liberate a couple to impress a girl he was seeing. After carefully hauling the trap up as the line had razorblades tied into it every couple feet he finally got the trap out of the water when the owner shot im in the rear with a shotgun loaded with rock salt. He got out alive but lobsterless and couldn't sit straight for some time.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant HalfDork
3/14/10 7:56 p.m.

Lots of stuff going on here ...

A caste system of locals vs everyone else with regard to fishing rights.

Vigilante enforcement of the above. (Criminal mischief? Theft? Destruction of Property?)

Death threats from the "victim".

Cops hiding in boats, hoping to hear confessions? Shades of Tom Horn!

I'm glad I wasn't on that jury.

Josh
Josh Dork
3/14/10 8:44 p.m.

As I know from the guys in my family who make their living from the sea, you really, really don't berkeley with another man's gear up here. Keep in mind that lobstering is basically practiced on the honor system, you set your traps and theoretically anyone could pull them up, or cut the lines, etc. Except that everyone knows better than to do that, because everyone else would have their ass if they caught them messing with gear that didn't belong to them. From cutting traps to pulling a gun doesn't sound like nearly as drastic an escalation to me as it probably does to most of you.

Osterkraut
Osterkraut Dork
3/14/10 9:09 p.m.

Shining moment for...

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/14/10 9:11 p.m.

Am I the only one craving lobster in here?

< homer > Butter Sauce... < /homer >

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
3/14/10 9:41 p.m.
4cylndrfury wrote: guns are for pansies, bring your fists to an argument. Dont bring a gun unless killing someone is in the cards....bob castases use weapons, men use brains

This is well and good until you are surrounded by 8 large men who have nothing to lose and little chance of being caught.

Not advocating waving the thing around but a sensible legal carry can be a life saver, maybe even yours one day

GI_Drewsifer
GI_Drewsifer Reader
3/14/10 11:33 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: God, that was the most rambling news story I've ever read. Without the summary at the beginning I'd have had no idea what it was all about.

I only have a really vague idea of what happened. That article was not very clear.

Shaun
Shaun Reader
3/15/10 12:27 a.m.

Quentin Tarantino has secured screenplay rights from several of the people involved the story. He says he likes the "complexity" of the Matinicus Island Lobster debacle and the fact that he can yet again cast Uma Thurmon wielding a gun. Rumors are flying that Sean Connery is considering coming out of retirement to play Vance Bunker.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury SuperDork
3/15/10 5:39 a.m.
aussiesmg wrote:
4cylndrfury wrote: guns are for pansies, bring your fists to an argument. Dont bring a gun unless killing someone is in the cards....bob castases use weapons, men use brains
This is well and good until you are surrounded by 8 large men who have nothing to lose and little chance of being caught. Not advocating waving the thing around but a sensible legal carry can be a life saver, maybe even yours one day

Im just sayin...

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
3/15/10 5:57 a.m.

I was in Cape Cod after a storm and lobster pots were blown up on the beach. A tourist was flipping one around trying to get it open when a local told him he could legally be shot dead.

Don't mess with a man's livelyhood.

Dan

cwh
cwh SuperDork
3/15/10 9:21 a.m.

Very similar in the Keys. Traps for stone crab and lobster. Mess with somebody's traps and get caught at it, very bad things will happen to you. Very tight culture among the watermen. I guess it's like that everywhere.

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