Local job losses

Besides, I'm ready for a relocation!

Datsun1500 wrote: Go to car dealers and take photos of cars. I E36 M3 you not. That's it. No college necessary. I provide all equipment, and you are an actual employee, not a sub. Start at $50K. My long term guys make over $200K.

need any car photos in the Cincinnati/N. Ky area? Id start tomorrow...

Datsun1500 wrote: Go to car dealers and take photos of cars. I E36 M3 you not. That's it. No college necessary. I provide all equipment, and you are an actual employee, not a sub. Start at $50K. My long term guys make over $200K.

Too bad I don't have a desire to move to the east coast or we would need to have a serious conversation!

Want to expand into other markets?

The unemployment graphs show a positive trend, right? Well another way to look at the job situation is to measure the employment-population ratio, especially for prime age adults (25-54).

Paul Krugman said: EP ratio instead of unemployment rate, because [unemployment] may be distorted by workers dropping out. Prime-age not because the old and young don’t matter, but to take demographic change out of the picture. And here’s what it looks like: (couldnt grab the same picture as the quoted text but its the same thing more or less) A plunge and a stabilization at a depressed level, which has now gone on for almost three years.

z31maniac wrote:

mtn wrote:

Datsun1500 wrote:

z31maniac wrote: I made OK money, had benefits, retirement, vacation time..............would I have busted my a$$ like for $8.50/hr...........probably not.

I start you at $50K plus an iphone, ipad, and gas card. I can't get guys to show up on time. I swear it's because I pay too much and they don't need it.

Fresh outta college? I'd be have your coffee on your desk before you got to the office.

He's just outside of Baltimore, $50k there, is the equivalent of $37,000 in Tulsa for instance. Still not bad, but $650+ a month in take home is a huge difference.

Can I ask where you're getting those figures? I'd like to compare various cities with where I am now.

mtn wrote:

z31maniac wrote:

mtn wrote:

Datsun1500 wrote:

z31maniac wrote: I made OK money, had benefits, retirement, vacation time..............would I have busted my a$$ like for $8.50/hr...........probably not.

I start you at $50K plus an iphone, ipad, and gas card. I can't get guys to show up on time. I swear it's because I pay too much and they don't need it.

Fresh outta college? I'd be have your coffee on your desk before you got to the office.

He's just outside of Baltimore, $50k there, is the equivalent of $37,000 in Tulsa for instance. Still not bad, but $650+ a month in take home is a huge difference.

Can I ask where you're getting those figures? I'd like to compare various cities with where I am now.

http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-living-calculator.aspx

Datsun1500 wrote: Go to car dealers and take photos of cars. I E36 M3 you not. That's it. No college necessary. I provide all equipment, and you are an actual employee, not a sub. Start at $50K. My long term guys make over $200K.

Need anyone in the N. Florida area?

I guess I take the generalization that younger generations don't work as hard and use it to my advantage. I'm 25 and yes I do know a lot of people my age that would just laugh at you if you wanted them to work more than 40 hours in a week. My roommate for example is a graphic artist that works for a good company and complains about his 9-4 job with paid lunch that he has to work to much. By my math that's only 35 hours a week, hes getting paid $45k a year, with full benefits to boot. Doesn't sound like too bad of a gig.

I work in the environmental consulting wold and embrace the hard work i need to do. I have seen other people in my company flounder and fail because they don't want to work a 60+ hour week, or work all day outside when its 10 degrees out. Its a part of the job and I realized it and embraced it. Now I have project managers fighting over me for their projects and I have seen a considerable pay increase too. Plus who would complain about 20+ hours a week of time and a half??

toad9977 wrote: I guess I take the generalization that younger generations don't work as hard and use it to my advantage. I'm 25 and yes I do know a lot of people my age that would just laugh at you if you wanted them to work more than 40 hours in a week. My roommate for example is a graphic artist that works for a good company and complains about his 9-4 job with paid lunch that he has to work to much. By my math that's only 35 hours a week, hes getting paid $45k a year, with full benefits to boot. Doesn't sound like too bad of a gig. I work in the environmental consulting wold and embrace the hard work i need to do. I have seen other people in my company flounder and fail because they don't want to work a 60+ hour week, or work all day outside when its 10 degrees out. Its a part of the job and I realized it and embraced it. Now I have project managers fighting over me for their projects and I have seen a considerable pay increase too. Plus who would complain about 20+ hours a week of time and a half??

Your last sentence is the key, I'm also hourly, so I don't mind working OT. In fact, the company I work for tried to hire me once before but wanted me to go salary, I said thanks but no thanks.

I know plenty of people who are salaried at lower pay than me and work OT, don't get paid for travel time, etc.

Datsun1500 wrote: I'm out of the office for the day. Anyone who is interested, send me a pm. There are usually openings across the country.

PM sent.

Datsun1500 wrote: I'm out of the office for the day. Anyone who is interested, send me a pm. There are usually openings across the country.

Also sent a PM your way.

Driving around the city these days, there's at least one guy with a hand-lettered cardboard sign that's looking for work on every intersection. Busy intersections will often have two guys working opposite corners. I can't usually make out what field their previous work experience was in, or whether or not they hold degrees, but there sure are a lot of 'em.

And sorry if that's political.

yamaha wrote:

Enyar wrote: I fit in that age bracket, and I think I do rather well keeping up with my 80 hr work weeks...as do my peers.

Yea, that can suck a bag of dicks.....I tried that for 2 years, it was good money, but no life.

I hear ya! I just finished year 3. Record was 215 hours in a pay period (15 days). Trying to get my ducks in a row for the exit plan.

z31maniac wrote:

Datsun1500 wrote: I'm out of the office for the day. Anyone who is interested, send me a pm. There are usually openings across the country.

Also sent a PM your way.

Me 3.

We are literally crying for field service guys that will show up on time, answer their phones, can use Excel and Acrobat Reader, fill out daily reports, have a good attitude and professional demeanor with the customer, and won't keep stolen, loaded guns in the center consoles of their company vehicles.

You can make sick money and get more overtime than you thought possible. Downside is you are never home and you work in dirty, hot foundries.

08/09 were scary, but effectively killed all of our competition. Catering to wealthy people who expect excellence in both product & customer service, and basically telling everyone else to get berkeleyed has proven to be a decent business model. That said, I've "created" a whopping one job this year; but I have no desire to manage a hundred people, or jump through all the regulatory hoops they'd bring with them.

I'm making more money than last year, but not by much, and I, like many others, are berkeleying terrified by the lack of a clear economic plan, and the drastic, totally unclear changes that will occur regarding healthcare (i.e. doctors, i.e. a ton of my best customers) next month. Accordingly, I'm kind of sitting on my hands, hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

This. We can't find reliable people, or people who care. And it's not a money thing: we'll pay for good people. We currently need: field techs (strapping machines - steel, lumber and glass industries), 1 assembler, 1 boring mill operator, and an engineering manager. It's REALLY hard to find good people, it seems.

93gsxturbo wrote: We are literally crying for field service guys that will show up on time, answer their phones, can use Excel and Acrobat Reader, fill out daily reports, have a good attitude and professional demeanor with the customer, and won't keep stolen, loaded guns in the center consoles of their company vehicles. You can make sick money and get more overtime than you thought possible. Downside is you are never home and you work in dirty, hot foundries.

We have now found on three occasions (two with our bathroom and now 1 cutting down our sick oak trees), that even though these guys can make a ton of money if they would show up and work an 8 hour day (so hard), they can't manage it.

It blows my mind.

fasted58 wrote: Envelope factory in bankruptcy sold to competitor. Expected to close at end of this month after court review. 400 jobs lost.

this follows the USPS loss and the increase of email. hard to believe 400 people were making eps.

Datsun1500 wrote: I'm out of the office for the day. Anyone who is interested, send me a pm. There are usually openings across the country.

Sent a PM

Add to the original post the local hospital will cut 70 jobs. Citing a decline in inpatient admissions and a reduction in reimbursement for Medicare and Medicaid patient care will result in the closing of the hospital’s progressive care center, behavioral health unit, outpatient rehabilitation services and diabetes center by the end of the year.

Not whining about job losses here, just pointing out the changes. Changes in technology and government policies are mostly responsible for the power plant, factories and hospital losing jobs. Probably shouldn't say they couldn't see it coming.

Helps to have a well rounded resume handy just in case. Take nothing for granted.

Datsun, you have a PM...

Sorry I don't have any graphs to support my cherry-picked data "Unemployment for short-haired married white males between the ages of 33 and 34 with two cats, a blue car, and a dishwasher is at an all time low!"

160,000 new jobs created in ONE MONTH!!! YEEEHAW!!! (Oh by the way, we're still averaging well over 300,000 NEW unemployment claims every WEEK.) But don't worry about that second number! Look at the FIRST one!!! 1.5% economic growth is good right? RIGHT?

If you can get excited about that, I've got some drying paint at the house that needs watching.

what are you paying ?