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Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
7/28/14 10:48 a.m.

Another vote for physically cabling. You will get the best signal and bang for the buck.

Bumboclaat
Bumboclaat HalfDork
7/28/14 10:59 a.m.

The cable that is installed point to point, like from a patch panel to a wall jack wall or building to building is solid core wire. The stuff used to make patch cables in stranded core for greater flexibility.

Kenny_McCormic wrote:

In reply to JG Pasterjak:

Also gives an excuse to invest in a roll of cat6, bag of connectors and a good crimper, never buy overpriced cables again.

dculberson
dculberson UberDork
7/28/14 12:38 p.m.
peter wrote: I don't know much about these, but I've heard that they work over much longer distances than you've got to deal with. Get a pair of 'em, spend some time configuring them, and you should be golden. There seem to be several variants, I'll leave the detailed research to you :)

That seems like a great option. I'll be facing this exact issue soon so I've bookmarked these. Thanks for the tip!

JG, these Ubiquiti things are 2+km range wireless devices, people seem to give them great marks and get up to 100mbit throughput. Seems perfect to me. At $67/ea you can't beat it. You can barely buy the wire for your run for that price. (A cat6 spool is over $100.)

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/28/14 12:59 p.m.

If you can get the old parts cheaply enough, throw Free Space Optical out there. Just about any FSO setup will work great with these distances, and should be very reliable. Wind, rail, snow and fog aren't much of an issue until you start running over greater distances. There are lasers at play, so you want to understand the manual and take the precautions to ensure you don't blind anyone.

Derick Freese
Derick Freese UltraDork
7/28/14 1:40 p.m.

My last 500' spool of CAT6 was $70 from Lowe's Depot.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
7/28/14 2:06 p.m.

These folks seem to have pretty decent prices - caveat, I haven't ordered from them (yet) but I probably will soon as I have to do some network wiring in the house.

Edit: add link, doh http://www.deepsurplus.com/Network-Structured-Wiring/Ethernet-Cable-CAT-6

dculberson
dculberson UberDork
7/28/14 2:17 p.m.
Derick Freese wrote: My last 500' spool of CAT6 was $70 from Lowe's Depot.

Sorry, I usually think in 1000' spools. A 1000' spool is over $100.

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/28/14 2:27 p.m.

I am also in the "run cable" camp. Double your line in the ground in case something happens and you should be set.

Derick Freese
Derick Freese UltraDork
7/28/14 2:53 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
Derick Freese wrote: My last 500' spool of CAT6 was $70 from Lowe's Depot.
Sorry, I usually think in 1000' spools. A 1000' spool is over $100.

Also why I mentioned the length of the spool. Although, 1000' of CAT5e runs around $70, and would probably work almost as well.

I would still rather set up a wireless link.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
7/28/14 2:58 p.m.

On the cable side, how's the weather out that way? Get a lot of lightening? Fiber wouldn't be a problem, but running cable out there can make both ends susceptible to a direct or near lightening hit anywhere in the middle. I lost a camera system that way on about 300' of Cat5.

peter
peter Dork
7/28/14 11:05 p.m.

it's summer in Florida and y'all are encouraging JG to dig a 320' long trench to bury a $100 cable (if you were to buy the 'direct burial' version, which I'd imagine you'd want, what with Florida's moisture and humidity and all that) that is at the limit of the transmission spec? (And do you really think an el-cheapo wireless router/ethernet switch/firewall/blender will perform well at that distance?)

Do you not like him or something?

JG - do the wireless thing. Even if it's a royal pain in the ass to configure, you get to do that indoors. It's slightly more expensive than running cable, but personally I'd be much happier being well within the wireless envelope than at the ragged edge of an ethernet run. The equipment I pointed out works over distances measured in kilometers, so it's definitely overkill - maybe there are lower spec versions that are cheaper.

Also, what's the water table like there? I'd imagine you'd have to give that pond a wide berth to keep an underground cable from also being under water...

edwardh80
edwardh80 New Reader
7/29/14 10:37 a.m.

+1 for wireless link. If you ever move, you can take it with you, and comparing the price of cable vs wireless doesn't include the effort and cost of digging a trench for said cable.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
7/29/14 11:18 a.m.

The water table is REALLY high there. The house sits about 10 feet higher than the shop, but the pond is about another 5 feet lower than the shop (it's one of Florida's larger hills). Right now there's a lot of standing water and saturated areas around the pond, to the point where we haven't been able to mow for a couple weeks. Another reason I'm not excited about burying cable.

I just ordered a couple of those Ubiquiti dealies. The reviews ranged from highly satisfied to off the charts great, which is encouraging. I'll let y'all know.

dculberson
dculberson UberDork
7/29/14 11:20 a.m.

Please do, I'll be ordering some in a few weeks if they work out for you.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/29/14 12:52 p.m.

Call Mitchell.

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