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Ranger50
Ranger50 UltraDork
10/3/12 6:25 p.m.

Below was stolen from here: http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511481

from Jayski.com,this was in with an article about Fox renewing a new NASCAR tv package.

UPDATE: The curveball in a new FOX deal is the impact the network's change of SPEED into Fox Sports One, a new all sports channel that will carry Major League Baseball, college football and basketball and other sports in addition to NASCAR programming. Hoping to keep up with the likes of the ABC/ESPN, NBC/NBC Sports Network as well as CBS/CBS Sports Network pairings, FOX plans to flip the current motorsports and automotive channel into its own general sports cable network. As of now ancillary NASCAR programming such as practice, qualifying and support events like the Camping World Truck Series would be mixed into the revamped channel's content line-up. There is word FOX will also stream NASCAR programming beginning next season, ala the "Watch ESPN" initiative that will allow mobile device access for thousands of viewers. Assuming FOX comes to terms, the remainder of the new NASCAR television package is a bit fuzzier. While it appears ABC/ESPN and TNT will return to the negotiating table, the NBC's interest is a wild card. Desperate for content to help build its fledging sports net, the Peacock folks are eyeballing a return to the business of stock car racing. The Nationwide Series, currently an ABC/ESPN property, could be in play for NBC as well as the Truck Series should FOX decide to back off the amount of NASCAR programming for its cable sports network or the "World Wide Leader" scale back its stock car investment. CBS or perhaps niche outlets like "The History Channel" might also dip their toes into the negotiations.(CBS Sports)(10-3-2012)

I know the channel overall sucks E36 M3, but really? I knew the end was coming when you end up airing infomericals at 5 and 11am for a hour when there are so many racing venues and events not covered by anyone. I mean I LOVE the Mazda Motorsports hour on Velocity Saturdays at noon, even though, I don't really care for the Star Mazda series. The whole scenario reminds me of the bean counters making cars instead of engineers, MBA bean counters drove everything offshore to save a penny per million units, and now when suits don't know their core audience and feel the need to change it.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/3/12 6:33 p.m.

Just as long as I get www.Speed2.com by then.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
10/3/12 6:51 p.m.

Another example of how Cable TV is dying. Relevant: post I made here before I got laid off.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/american-country-awards-on-speed-right-now/29569/page1/

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltraDork
10/3/12 6:59 p.m.

I knew this was going to happen as soon as FOX bought Speedvision. As FGC posted above, when you start seeing that E36 M3 on a channel that has place on a channel like that.

Speedvision was great. We need a channel like that. Something I can leave on all day on the TV in the garage.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/3/12 8:04 p.m.

wait.. History is looking to get into the NASCAR business?

w.. t.. f...

that will seriously cut into the "Ancient Aliens" broadcast time..

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 Dork
10/3/12 8:17 p.m.

Just what is needed...another sports channel to go with all those reality channels.

Is it any wonder why I don't watch TV, at least rarely watch.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
10/3/12 8:46 p.m.

One of the reasons we cut the cable cord 2.5 years ago.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade SuperDork
10/3/12 8:46 p.m.

...what's the purpose of the "history" channel again?

Aeromoto
Aeromoto HalfDork
10/3/12 8:52 p.m.

I can't imagine how anyone can stay awake through an entire NASCAR race today, much less all those pre race and after race commentary shows. I guess it's all the Mountain Dew?

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
10/3/12 9:08 p.m.

I have kept cable primarily because of SPEED. It will be interesting to see where the new "super sports car" series is going to be broadcast. If they drop F1, I'm out.

corytate
corytate Dork
10/3/12 9:29 p.m.

sad, now NASCAR will be the only thing they have time to broadcast at all
goodbye, Stacey David, goodbye Two Guys Garage, goodbye all the decent programming that somehow snuck by between NASCAR races and E36 M3ty "reality" shows about rednecks with trucks

soy triste

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 SuperDork
10/3/12 9:35 p.m.

Maybe Velocity will pick some of it up? Anyways doesn't Fox already have some sort of their own sports network ala FSN (Fox Sports Network) and they break it up into regions? The same with NBC and what used to be the Sunshine Network here in Florida.

mndsm
mndsm PowerDork
10/3/12 9:39 p.m.

Now where the hell am I gonna watch reruns of Monster Jam? TNN went away and is now Spike.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/3/12 10:12 p.m.

As long as I can still watch F1 somewhere on American television, I could care less.

oldsaw
oldsaw PowerDork
10/3/12 10:25 p.m.

Now we know why the SPEED2 network was launched.

It's likely FOX has long planned converting their Nascar channel to something other than it is right now. Why else the experiments with showing soccer and awards shows on a racing channel?

The bigger question is how many cable carriers will embrace SPEED2 and whether, or not, it will be part of a basic, expanded or premium package.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/3/12 11:01 p.m.
DoctorBlade wrote: ...what's the purpose of the "history" channel again?

to make money for Discovery Networks, which (i think) is owned by NBC..

Appleseed
Appleseed PowerDork
10/4/12 12:55 a.m.
DoctorBlade wrote: ...what's the purpose of the "history" channel again?

It used to be to keep the memory of Hitler alive.

ncjay
ncjay Reader
10/4/12 1:05 a.m.

I don't understand why Nascar doesn't start/have/get their own channel. It just takes money, right?

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand Reader
10/4/12 1:52 a.m.
ncjay wrote: I don't understand why Nascar doesn't start/have/get their own channel. It just takes money, right?

It's a lot easier to take over an existing channel with the existing cable/satellite/etc contracts than to build one from the ground up.

JoeyM
JoeyM UltimaDork
10/4/12 5:37 a.m.
friedgreencorrado wrote: Another example of how Cable TV is dying. Relevant: post I made here before I got laid off. http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/american-country-awards-on-speed-right-now/29569/page1/

Yup. I remember you posting that. The other one - which I cannot ever find when I want to refer to it - is the post where you explained shifting from genre to genre.

CGLockRacer
CGLockRacer GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/4/12 6:15 a.m.

Commiecast doesn't carry SPEED2 in my area :( I just hope I can get ALMS/Grand-Am, V8 Supercars, and F1 at a minimum somewhere. Gearz would be nice to have too as it was one of the less paid advertising shows (I hated 2 guys). Velocity seems to be picking up some speed (pun intended) on their shows. Hopefully some of the SPEED shows can find a home there.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltraDork
10/4/12 7:05 a.m.
novaderrik wrote:
DoctorBlade wrote: ...what's the purpose of the "history" channel again?
to make money for Discovery Networks, which (i think) is owned by NBC..

Discovery Networks is it's own entity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Communications

Klayfish
Klayfish Dork
10/4/12 7:16 a.m.

I'm sure Comcast and the other large cable companies will pick up SPEED2 once the switch is made, there will be a lot of outcries from NASCAR fans when the coverage lessens.

I don't get to watch much TV anyhow, but I'm still a NASCAR fan. That said, some of the coverage has gotten downright stupid. Their Trackside show used to be decent years ago. Now it's like a hillbilly circus and is completely unwatchable. But I'm hoping the actual racing shows still get covered, or picked up elsewhere.

I know my boys will be upset if they drop "Dumbest Stuff on Wheels". They think it's hysterical...but then again they're in 3rd grade and kindergarden....same intelligence level as the nimrods on the show.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury UltimaDork
10/4/12 7:21 a.m.

I really really really hope velocity JUMPS at the opportunity to pick up some of the non-nascar stuff that speed had going on. I love velocity, but theres only so much Mecum a guy can take, and reruns of overhaulin and west coast customs get old fast. They already cover events like Isle of Mann, WRC, and some mustang challenge stuff, so hopefully, they will expand their racing coverage to NASA/SCCA road course events and the like, and pull back some of their "filler" rerun crap.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/4/12 7:27 a.m.

Speed sucked hard for ages. One of their employees even, er, alluded to that and put no small amount of the blame for Speed's alleged 'programming' on the viewers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiGpsz_K7Yo

Velocity might be able to put it together, man I hope so.

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