Mac or PC, a GRM perspective

That actually has nothing to do with me, seeing as I am currently posting from Windows 7 on my Mac since the FORTRAN 77 compilers for windows are much better.

Taiden wrote: That actually has nothing to do with me, seeing as I am currently posting from Windows 7 on my Mac since the FORTRAN 77 compilers for windows are much better.

I was just being a jackhole, illustrating a point.

People like what they're used to, and that's it. There's more options in terms of HOW to do things in Windows, because there's more options for windows, period. Because there's more windows machines, period.

Anyways, my real thoughts that might actually add to the conversation were added to the previous post.

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It goes both ways... People who have used Macs for a decade are lost when presented with a Windows PC. If they AREN'T, that's because they use them at work (because chances are, they do.... as PCs outnumber Macs 9:1.)

lol, couldn't happen, because using os9 and before doesn't translate to osx like the Windows' legacies do. ;p

Maybe I am exempt from this frustration because I grew up on computers?

I am used to Windows and am thinking of switching to something new

Windows 8 is as different to W7 as Mac is to Windows 7/Vista/XP/NT/ME/98/2000/3.*

Fortran blows

yes windows is very different from 8 to 7...

BUT

you can still use 8 pretty much like you use 7 if you chose. go download the alpha and see for yourself, its free and will shut off automatically in another 6 months or so.

Fortran is pretty horrible. It's a requirement for the engineering program here.

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: People like what they're used to, and that's it.

I disagree. I was very used to windows and I hated it. I never messed with Macs much. I tried Linux in a effort to find something better--not expecting to like Linux--and was absolutely amazed at the ease of use and bulletproof nature of it.

1988RedT2 wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: People like what they're used to, and that's it.

I disagree. I was very used to windows and I hated it. I never messed with Macs much. I tried Linux in a effort to find something better--not expecting to like Linux--and was absolutely amazed at the ease of use and bulletproof nature of it.

What distribution are you running at the moment?

Last time I ran linux, there was a lot of issues with Flash, and that was used a lot at the time. I imagine this is a non issue now-a-days.

Taiden wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote:

92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: People like what they're used to, and that's it.

I disagree. I was very used to windows and I hated it. I never messed with Macs much. I tried Linux in a effort to find something better--not expecting to like Linux--and was absolutely amazed at the ease of use and bulletproof nature of it.

What distribution are you running at the moment? Last time I ran linux, there was a lot of issues with Flash, and that was used a lot at the time. I imagine this is a non issue now-a-days.

My main machine is still running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, although I just did an 11.10 install on my son's computer. I too recall the flash issues, but they disappeared a couple years ago.

madmallard wrote: yes windows is very different from 8 to 7... BUT you can still use 8 pretty much like you use 7 if you chose. go download the alpha and see for yourself, its free and will shut off automatically in another 6 months or so.

I used windows 8 today, courtesy of our IT department. (I have to brag on our crew, they ask what objections we have to software packages before they install. They always take into consideration what we think.)

let me summarize, um NO

not digging it? well, its okay, your desktop is still underneath that mess.

but its obvious that windows expect touch computing to creep into home machines next.

JG Pasterjak wrote: Adobe Premiere is a superior program, I don't care what anyone says.

qft

Taiden wrote: Fortran is pretty horrible. It's a requirement for the engineering program here.

Dude I am so sorry,

I have been through, Fortran 77, Fortran 90 and Fortran.

Matlab is much better if you aren't crunching Yotta-bytes of data.

madmallard:

Creep? Saying that is a creep is the equivalent of saying the SR-71 is brisk.

It stormed in and said I HOPE YOU LIKE TABLETS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR WORKIN' WITH NOW BUDDY!!!!

Something else I thought of randomly.

You can always tell when someone is on a Mac when they are type things like:

It was 73° outside tonight.

find ∫3x dx where 0 ≥ x ≥ ∞

displacement is often referred to as ∆s, while density is known as ∂

Taiden wrote: Fortran is pretty horrible. It's a requirement for the engineering program here.

I didn't know they still did that...I learned Fortran in school as well, but that was in 1974.

stuart in mn wrote:

Taiden wrote: Fortran is pretty horrible. It's a requirement for the engineering program here.

I didn't know they still did that...I learned Fortran in school as well, but that was in 1974.

I kind of want to find a punch card computer and have a go after I'm done with this class.

Also, apparently FORTRAN is incredibly fast for crunching huge amounts of data. I guess this makes it useful for engineers because they can write programs to calculate complex solutions using the finite element method. But so many programs that engineers use already do this, so it's debatable that there is no real point in us learning it now.

I know there are some really, really , really complicated multi-physics equations that some PhD students use Fortran to evaluate.

Other than that you are right, most everything Fortran was used for is now integrated in a much more user friendly environment.

Taiden:

I saw what you did there