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Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/22/11 10:37 a.m.

I'd prefer double fines for people found guilty instead of charging people who are innocent any type of fine.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/09/massachusetts-supreme-court-approves-charging-innocent-ticket-recipients/

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
9/22/11 10:43 a.m.

WOW....

That is so wrong....

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/22/11 10:43 a.m.

Stupid.

Idiot state and idiot judge.

trucke
trucke New Reader
9/22/11 10:46 a.m.

Wow! Talk about outsourcing responsibility. One more reason why I'm glad I left Massachusetts years ago. I wonder if Mitt will get asked about this in the debate tonight.

Cone_Junky
Cone_Junky HalfDork
9/22/11 10:48 a.m.

Guilty after being proven innocent...nice.

Rufledt
Rufledt HalfDork
9/22/11 10:52 a.m.
Javelin wrote: Stupid. Idiot state and idiot judge.

agreed

trucke wrote: I left Massachusetts years ago.

I envy you

mtn
mtn SuperDork
9/22/11 11:26 a.m.

I see a USSC case coming from this.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter SuperDork
9/22/11 11:28 a.m.

Wow, that's berkeleyed. Like, break out the pitchforks and torches berkeleyed.

"You didn't do anything wrong, but here's a fine anyway". Doesn't that violate the 4th Ammendment?

Conquest351
Conquest351 Reader
9/22/11 1:49 p.m.

Seems like Ammendment violations aren't a big thing anymore. It's all for the greater good, right?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
9/22/11 1:53 p.m.
Conquest351 wrote: Seems like Ammendment violations aren't a big thing anymore. It's all for the greater good, right?

Grizz
Grizz HalfDork
9/22/11 2:00 p.m.

I was unaware we needed more proof.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper SuperDork
9/22/11 2:37 p.m.

Oh, the old "filing fee". Many states have this, and have for decades, perhaps even centuries.

Conquest351
Conquest351 Reader
9/22/11 3:10 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
Conquest351 wrote: Seems like Ammendment violations aren't a big thing anymore. It's all for the greater good, right?

The second I typed that, whispered it too. LOL One of my all time favorite movies. Haha

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
9/23/11 1:57 p.m.

so cops can just hand out random tickets to anyone and everyone for any or no reason at all, and the state will get paid no matter what?

gee.. i wonder why they are trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment..

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/23/11 2:55 p.m.

Massacheusetts is America's crazy berkeleyed-up state. Not surprised.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
9/23/11 3:29 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Massacheusetts is America's crazy berkeleyed-up state. Not surprised.

Massachusetts has to be that way in order to balance-out California. Otherwise, the continent would tilt towards the Pacific and drown the Calis or force the survivors to move into Nevada and Arizona. Those states don't want any more of them than they already have.

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
9/23/11 3:32 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Massacheusetts is America's crazy berkeleyed-up state. Not surprised.

don't forget Ohio... as mentioned in a past thread, the po-po there need only to testify that in their opinion you were speeding ( name a specific speed ) and the judge says ... " guilty "

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
9/23/11 3:51 p.m.

Ohio: a.k.a The nation's speed trap.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo Dork
9/23/11 9:34 p.m.
novaderrik wrote: so cops can just hand out random tickets to anyone and everyone for any or no reason at all, and the state will get paid no matter what?

Yes, blame the cops.

Do you really think they give a berkeley weather or not the state gets paid?

ddavidv
ddavidv SuperDork
9/23/11 9:35 p.m.

Virginia is trying like hell to become the next Ohio. I really hate it that VIR is a direct drive right down through that damn state.

Will
Will Dork
9/23/11 11:05 p.m.

Please let this go to the Supreme Court.

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
9/24/11 4:50 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
novaderrik wrote: so cops can just hand out random tickets to anyone and everyone for any or no reason at all, and the state will get paid no matter what?
Yes, blame the cops. Do you really think they give a berkeley weather or not the state gets paid?

i don't know if they care or not- but if they know that they can just hand out tickets to anyone and everyone for any and no reason and know that it's gonna cost the person no matter what, then it would only serve to more severely inflate the already inflated egos of some of them.

rotard
rotard Reader
9/24/11 8:42 a.m.
novaderrik wrote:
N Sperlo wrote:
novaderrik wrote: so cops can just hand out random tickets to anyone and everyone for any or no reason at all, and the state will get paid no matter what?
Yes, blame the cops. Do you really think they give a berkeley weather or not the state gets paid?
i don't know if they care or not- but if they know that they can just hand out tickets to anyone and everyone for any and no reason and know that it's gonna cost the person no matter what, then it would only serve to more severely inflate the already inflated egos of some of them.

Yeah, it's not like the cops that hand out more tickets get the newer cruisers and stuff to ride around it. Jeez, at least there aren't any traffic units in most departments!

Slyp_Dawg
Slyp_Dawg GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/24/11 5:06 p.m.
ddavidv wrote: Virginia is trying like hell to become the next Ohio. I really hate it that VIR is a direct drive right down through that damn state.

beware of Charlotte County if you have to come that way, I think they use their little section of Rt. 360 as a piggybank. which is a stark contrast to Halifax county, who generally only issues warnings to anyone under 18 for speeding-related traffic stops if it's your first offense and you're not a total assface to the cop. (unless it was something really ignorantly bad, like trying to go so fast your speedometer needle breaks on a 1 lane each way road, or being drunk/high) that is dependent upon them realizing you're under 18, though...

WilberM3
WilberM3 Dork
9/28/11 4:39 p.m.

just add this to the list of reasons i plan to relocate up to NH...

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