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Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
7/25/20 7:37 a.m.

Man, I'm so, so sorry to hear this news. Best wishes (and luck) to your mom.

I do need to respond to the herd immunity comment. Please don't spread that idea here, this isn't the place for it. And I'm not going to engage in or allow further discussion about it.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808

Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions.

 

tester (Forum Supporter)
tester (Forum Supporter) Reader
7/25/20 8:04 a.m.

In reply to Snowdoggie :

I feel for you. My mother has dementia. The only time that I see her is when she has a doctor's appointment, 3 times in the past 4 months. Facetime and phone calls really are not effective. In that time, she fell, broke her hip, had hip surgery, developed bed sores, and has gone downhill at an alarming rate. I was not able to see her in the hospital. She was quarantined in her room for 14 out of 20 days of rehab. She will never walk again. COVID is bad. Isolation is worse for dementia patients. At least, it is from my experience. 
 

The reality is that we need to move her to a skilled nursing facility. The facility she is in now is set up for dementia patients who are up walking around not bed bound patients with bed sores. I have been trying to move her for 3 weeks since her last doctor's appointment. It is hell.

What I saw at the Wound Care office was truly horrible. The doctor saying, "it's not that bad", is no consolation. The only good news is that she doesn't seem to be in pain or really know what is happening. 

Just know that you are not alone or a failure. I know you feel that way because I do. You have done the best that you can do for your mom. Dementia is a cruel disease in the best of times.  Unfortunately, These are not the best of times.  
 

I will keep you and your mom in my prayers. 

 

11GTCS
11GTCS Reader
7/25/20 8:55 a.m.

It certainly sounds like you’ve done a lot to help your mother and keep her as safe as possible and I’m so sorry that something beyond your control is now causing you so much anguish.  We’ll keep you in our prayers, I hope this will pass for both you and your mom. 

BenB (Forum Supporter)
BenB (Forum Supporter) Reader
7/25/20 9:15 a.m.

In reply to Snowdoggie :

I am so sorry to hear that. I feel some of your pain, as my 84-year-old mom contracted Covid in her rest home and has been hospitalized for the past week. She also has dementia, so she doesn't fully understand what's going on. The last time we Facetimed her, she kept looking at us and asking who those people were. 

I hope your mom is able to fight this off. Mine has been getting treatment with remdesivir and they're sending her back to the rest home today. The drug seems to be helping, so I hope your mom is able to get it and have good results, too. I'll be keeping you in my thoughts.

Snowdoggie
Snowdoggie Reader
7/25/20 10:27 a.m.

In reply to BenB (Forum Supporter) :

My Mom is 89. She has diabetes and has had  heart surgery twice so I am concerned. They are in the process of testing everybody today to see who has it and who doesn't and deep cleaning. It's a waiting game now.

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/25/20 12:16 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Message received.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
7/25/20 12:28 p.m.

In reply to Snowdoggie :

We're rooting for your mom and hope that they get things under control there. We're here for you. 

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
7/25/20 1:06 p.m.

I'm very sorry to hear about your mother. I'm very sad for you and hope she recovers quickly.

dyintorace (Forum Supporter)
dyintorace (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/25/20 2:06 p.m.

That really sucks. Sorry to hear that and will keep you and your family in my thoughts. 

BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter)
BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/25/20 2:16 p.m.

Sorry to hear that. Rooting for your mother!

wawazat
wawazat Dork
7/25/20 2:35 p.m.

Sending positive thoughts your way!  Best of luck to you both.  

rustybugkiller
rustybugkiller Dork
7/25/20 2:47 p.m.

I've had to stop watching the news and FB ( I'm usually but not always only on FB to buy/sell ) because of all the people who have the right to not wear a mask or social distance. They just don't get it. I saw someone comment "why are we taking all these precautions for a virus that you can get over like the flu". What the.?? How do you account for all these deaths?


Apparently no one remembers high school history of WWII and all the sacrifices the American citizens had to make to help the war effort. Not to mention the sacrifices all military personnel have made through out the years to keep our country safe.

BUT it's too much to wear a mask and social distance.

I'm praying for you and your mom as well as all families dealing with this right now!

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
7/25/20 2:49 p.m.

Nothing to add, but I am so sorry. Please let us know how she does (and you, too).

Margie

Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/25/20 3:20 p.m.

I'm sorry to hear this happened. I with the individuals who aren't taking COVID-19 seriously had to read every story like this.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones Reader
7/25/20 3:31 p.m.
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) said:

I'm sorry to hear this happened. I with the individuals who aren't taking COVID-19 seriously had to read every story like this.

How do you know she didn't get it from people who took it seriously? That's the problem with the 200 plus page thread, people think anyone who questions what helps and what does not help isn't taking it seriously. You're assuming she got it from someone being reckless, why? What if they followed all protocols yet, here it is? Then what?

alfadriver (Forum Supporter)
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
7/25/20 3:39 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) said:

I'm sorry to hear this happened. I with the individuals who aren't taking COVID-19 seriously had to read every story like this.

How do you know she didn't get it from people who took it seriously? That's the problem with the 200 plus page thread, people think anyone who questions what helps and what does not help isn't taking it seriously. You're assuming she got it from someone being reckless, why? What if they followed all protocols yet, here it is? Then what?

Simple odds.  Yes, it's possible that someone who was taking every precaution was the original source.  But the odds of it being someone who is not doing that is far, far higher.  Pretty simple math. 

Sorry-snowdoggie- hope everything stays ok for her, and hopefully the ones get sick come out of it ok.

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
7/25/20 3:44 p.m.

I'm sorry, and I hope your mom escapes the mayhem coming so close.

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/25/20 3:52 p.m.

I feel for you Snowdoggie. Pulling for your mom - hope her facility avoids the problems seen early in the pandemic. It sounds like she is lucky to have you. 

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
7/25/20 5:30 p.m.

I am so sorry for the situation with your mom.

I've been through a similar situation with a drug addict/alcoholic brother ruining my dad financially, then having to pick up the pieces after my dad's dementia progressed.

I have finally come to peace with it. I hope you can get there, too.

I never thought I would say this, luckily  my dad died in 2019. 

We're all here for you. Keep sharing your thoughts. We care.

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/25/20 7:12 p.m.

I have a little side business on three Southern California Piers (Redondo, Newport, & Oceanside).

RX Daughter & I set out on our first "reopening" 350 mile round trip to take care of our business early this morning.

Being really generous, I'll estimate that 50% of the 1,000's of people we saw on the various beaches were wearing masks and when social distancing was taking place, is was merely by chance.

Time to call it...California, to a large extent, just doesn't give a E36 M3.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones Reader
7/25/20 7:18 p.m.

In reply to RX Reven' :

Are you supposed to wear masks outside? Like at the beach, not near another group? That seems like overkill. 

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
7/25/20 7:58 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:

In reply to RX Reven' :

Are you supposed to wear masks outside? Like at the beach, not near another group? That seems like overkill. 

We're still learning how this virus behaves. It may not be necessary if you're spread out enough (aka social distancing), but I don't think that's what was being described.

Overkill, overreaction, call it what you will. We're reaping the results of worrying about whether we might be doing too much to limit the spread of the virus.

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/25/20 8:03 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:

In reply to RX Reven' :

Are you supposed to wear masks outside? Like at the beach, not near another group? That seems like overkill. 

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said "beaches" as my measurement didn't include people that were physically on the beach...I only counted people in congested areas (parking lots, side walks, boardwalks, & piers).

In terms of what we're "supposed" to do, I honestly don't know as the rules keep changing.  I wouldn't wear a mask either if I was just hanging out in the middle of an uncrowded beach with my family.  I just follow a common sense approach...if I'm confident that I can reliably stay 6+ feet away from others (walking around the block early in the morning for example), no mask.

It's a perfect 80 degree / not a cloud in the sky Saturday so only a moron wouldn't realize that a significant percent of the 40 million people that call California home wouldn't be packed like sardines on our beaches (ops, there I go again, parking lots, side walks, boardwalks, & piers) that support the beaches.

In Oceanside, there were about six concurrent Volleyball games being played on the beach; brilliant.  I'm friends with a firefighter that's based at LAX...commercial aircraft don't crash often so those guys have a lot of idle time and one way they pass it is by playing Volleyball.  More than half of the firefighters that played a recent Volleyball game at the station got COVID and none that didn't play got it.  Arguably statistically anecdotal but when taken in conjunction with how we see professional sports teams getting sick in unison, it's pretty obvious that something is going on (communal object - Volleyball in this case, breathing hard, swapping sweat, wiping sweat off you face, something) about sports activity creates a very high risk of transmission and yet here we are, ~half a dozen Vollyball games; brilliant.

BTW, my firefighter friend's eldest daughter came down with COVID about a week after he did...do we know he gave it to her, no, is it highly probable, yes.

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/25/20 10:42 p.m.

E36 M3, I'm sorry to hear that. Happy thoughts sent you and your mom's way

Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/25/20 11:34 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) said:

I'm sorry to hear this happened. I with the individuals who aren't taking COVID-19 seriously had to read every story like this.

How do you know she didn't get it from people who took it seriously? That's the problem with the 200 plus page thread, people think anyone who questions what helps and what does not help isn't taking it seriously. You're assuming she got it from someone being reckless, why? What if they followed all protocols yet, here it is? Then what?

It seems you're making assumptions. I never ventured an opinion on how she got it. I said that I want the people not taking it seriously to have to read these stories. I want them to understand how this pandemic is affecting people. 
 

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