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mtn
mtn MegaDork
12/9/16 11:04 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: NPR is so far left as to be unbelievable.

So I guess that would make ZeroHedge and Breitbart so far right that it is into the realm of satire? Actually, that might not be a good comparison since NPR actually reports the news whereas ZH and Breitbart make it up.

NPR. They're slightly left of center, but they're at least reliable and trustworthy.

Signed, someone who wants to call himself a republican or libertarian but can't, so only calls himself an independent.

NEALSMO
NEALSMO UltraDork
12/9/16 11:22 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: NPR is so far left as to be unbelievable. Where does it say that public TV or Radio has to always be about free stuff? That's always their bent.

I can see where the topics they cover are left leaning, but I doubt you could find where they have EVER misreported or made something up. They are also very good about having representatives from both sides discussing political topics.

I think some people just don't like getting facts with their news. It seems as if they just want an echo chamber and to be told why they should be angry about something, whether it's true or not.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
12/9/16 11:38 a.m.
NEALSMO wrote:
carguy123 wrote: NPR is so far left as to be unbelievable. Where does it say that public TV or Radio has to always be about free stuff? That's always their bent.
I can see where the topics they cover are left leaning, but I doubt you could find where they have EVER misreported or made something up. They are also very good about having representatives from both sides discussing political topics. I think some people just don't like getting facts with their news. It seems as if they just want an echo chamber and to be told why they should be angry about something, whether it's true or not.

You can find where they misreported all the time. Because they tell you about it--listen closely and you'll hear the "We said this. That was wrong. What really happened was this. We apologize". Like ignorant said, they do make mistakes.

But make it up? yeah, I'd be surprised if they ever did that.

NEALSMO
NEALSMO UltraDork
12/9/16 11:42 a.m.

In reply to mtn:

You're right. I should have clarified with "knowingly misreported". They are always good about calling themselves out when new information is found.

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse SuperDork
12/9/16 11:54 a.m.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
12/9/16 12:43 p.m.

So.. I was in this pizza shop the other day... looking for some children in the basement when my AR-15 went off...

NEALSMO
NEALSMO UltraDork
12/9/16 12:56 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: So.. I was in this pizza shop the other day... looking for some children in the basement when my AR-15 went off...

Did you find the 3 million illegals that voted in there? Maybe the secret plans of the Sandy Hook or 9/11 inside jobs?

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
12/9/16 12:58 p.m.

Aspen
Aspen Reader
12/9/16 1:19 p.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: CBC does a pretty good job from what I can tell. Proximity to CBC is one of the good things about Detroit.

Choke!

CBC news is a big love fest for the left and the Liberal Party, it is almost unwatchable sometimes. Especially now when they are looking to increase their subsidy by another $400M by sucking up to the federal government.

They all just about had cows covering the US election results. At least that was amusing.

Taterstein
Taterstein New Reader
12/9/16 2:16 p.m.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine: Fair criticism. Name calling isn't solving anything. I retract "lame stream media" and apologized to anyone hurt by the term.

etifosi
etifosi SuperDork
12/9/16 2:19 p.m.

Truly gobsmacked that there is even a single American citizen who willingly consumes Russian State-Supported media as a source of trusted information.

Does RT contain electrolytes?

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/9/16 2:24 p.m.

I love how the people who invented: "your child may be in danger of being killed at any moment and you don't even know it...find out more tonight at 11 on Channel 4 News" are suddenly worried about click-bait and sensationalism. Pul-lease.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/9/16 2:52 p.m.
etifosi wrote: Truly gobsmacked that there is even a single American citizen who willingly consumes Russian State-Supported media as a source of trusted information. Does RT contain electrolytes?

At least their honest about being controlled by the state, and the inherent corruption involved, instead of pretending it doesn't exist. And rt does report on the problems, criticisms, and corruption of their homeland, unlike most American sources that ignore corruption in exchange for offensive words and thoughts years away from relevance.

Truthfully, I don't understand the current rash of McCarthyism aside from pulling attention away from important details here at home, but that's an entirely different discussion.

Throughout the election, RT was the only source I saw(in my admittedly "staying the berkeley away from this" stance on it) that even acknowledged there were more than two parties in this country, and their scatHing reports on American news outlets and politicians are backed up with supporting documents, video interviews with those involved, and actual experts in fields instead of selected interviewees that follow cue cards. Hell, they even had debates with 3rd party candidates, and followed along Johnson and Stein on the campaign trail like any journalist worthy of the title should have.

Mostly I like them because they ask questions I would ask given the chance. Questions that actually matter, to me anyway.

Al Jazeera used to be on my list, but around 2013 when the short lived al Jazeera America launched, they got a little to attached to the corporate teat and a little far away from the investigative journalism that proper al Jazeera was known for. Infowars was there as well. If you completely cut out and ignore Alex Jones, the actual news show was actually pretty informative as far as things going on under the radar of the big networks. Particularly in regards to laws being rushed through session and the pork barrel bullE36 M3 tacked onto them.

Realistically, there are absolutely no trustworthy news sources. Period.In this country or any other. Whether politically motivated, or corporate backed, information and "truth" went out the window years ago in exchange for ratings and revenue, or more bluntly propaganda . Actually sifting through the bullE36 M3 to find something that may resemble truth is possible, but it's still better to get outside views of situations, to gather more "facts" than what is handed over.

NEALSMO
NEALSMO UltraDork
12/9/16 3:05 p.m.

I loved RT's non-bias reporting on the Russian hacking used to sway the election. (sarcasm just in case that wasn't obvious)

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
12/9/16 3:29 p.m.
etifosi wrote: Truly gobsmacked that there is even a single American citizen who willingly consumes Russian State-Supported media as a source of trusted information. Does RT contain electrolytes?

But it's what plants crave.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/9/16 3:32 p.m.
Aspen wrote:
AngryCorvair wrote: CBC does a pretty good job from what I can tell. Proximity to CBC is one of the good things about Detroit.
Choke! CBC news is a big love fest for the left and the Liberal Party, it is almost unwatchable sometimes. Especially now when they are looking to increase their subsidy by another $400M by sucking up to the federal government. They all just about had cows covering the US election results. At least that was amusing.

To be fair, I think a fairly high percentage of the international press had a cow with the US election results.

etifosi
etifosi SuperDork
12/9/16 3:35 p.m.

Rev: I hear & respect you but still don't understand.

Maybe it's just me, being old, remembering when everyone knew the Russians wanted to incinerate us all & take our Levi's 501's & Marlboros.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
12/9/16 3:48 p.m.

I tend to catch a little of the left, and alittle of the right and belive that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Sad that I have to work so hard to find anything that resembles "Truth".

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/10/16 8:25 a.m.
etifosi wrote: Rev: I hear & respect you but still don't understand. Maybe it's just me, being old, remembering when everyone knew the Russians wanted to incinerate us all & take our Levi's 501's & Marlboros.

I also have a coworker that sends me links from Pravda. Every time I read a story I hear it in the voice of Ivan Tellalie from Turkey TV. How are there almost no clips Turkey TV on YouTube?

T.J.
T.J. UltimaDork
12/10/16 8:30 a.m.

Wolverines!

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