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oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
12/28/10 12:47 p.m.

This may be a recruitment video or a PSA documenting NYC's ongoing program to employ the developmentally-challenged:

NSFW - Language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_r-jO3lKE

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Reader
12/28/10 12:48 p.m.

Typical gov't retards

wbjones
wbjones Dork
12/28/10 12:55 p.m.

yankee ingenuity

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
12/28/10 3:20 p.m.
pilotbraden wrote: Typical gov't retards

HEY !! I resemble that remark!

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
12/28/10 4:01 p.m.
914Driver wrote:
pilotbraden wrote: Typical gov't retards
HEY !! I resemble that remark!

You get a "pass" - cause you work on things best applied towards NYC's sanitation workers.

Oh, and the other bad guys, too...........

Ignorant
Ignorant SuperDork
12/28/10 5:37 p.m.

but coffee break was in 10 minutes....

Actually, Give them a break. They were probably working for 24+ hours straight and damn tired. The car will get taken care of by the insurance.

My friends brother plows for a town in upstate NY. Working 2-3 days with only a handfull of hours of sleep in between shifts is not uncommon. They work hard so that you can have a safe ride.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
12/28/10 8:16 p.m.
Ignorant wrote: Actually, Give them a break. They were probably working for 24+ hours straight and damn tired. The car will get taken care of by the insurance.

So that makes it right?

What about the aggravation and inconvenience to the owner. There's untold lost hours dealing with getting a rent car, dealing with a body shop, etc., etc.

That was way beyond wrong. They had ZERO disregard for someone else's property. They could have waited for a 2nd tow truck or even gotten it out going forwards rather than backwards. The banging of the car with the blade and lowering the blade (as if he's going to shovel some more snow) to try to go forward instead of keeping the blade up was inexcusable. I've run a a lot of bladed machinery and there were several things he could have done with the blade to change the direction of the machine as well as making the removal of the machine easier.

What they did and the way they did it requires firing and possibly a firing squad!

Ignorant
Ignorant SuperDork
12/28/10 8:22 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: What they did and the way they did it requires firing and possibly a firing squad!

I didn't say it made it right....

I merely think we should give them a break.. Shooting them is an appropriate response though..

kabel
kabel Dork
12/28/10 8:30 p.m.

yea, that display was insane, I watched in complete disbelief and it just got worse!

oldopelguy
oldopelguy Dork
12/28/10 10:07 p.m.
Ignorant wrote: Actually, Give them a break. They were probably working for 24+ hours straight and damn tired. The car will get taken care of by the insurance.

Gov't employees and most likely with CDLs. Definitely not working 24+ hours straight.

In the video you hear the owner of the SUV screaming at them from the street. Sure it would have taken more time to shovel it out and move it out of the way, but I think it would have been the right answer.

Of course anyone who get's a vehicle with a loader bucket stuck on pavement is probably not going to think of that. Loader operation 101 grade= F

Ignorant
Ignorant SuperDork
12/29/10 7:04 a.m.
oldopelguy wrote:
Ignorant wrote: Actually, Give them a break. They were probably working for 24+ hours straight and damn tired. The car will get taken care of by the insurance.
Gov't employees and most likely with CDLs. Definitely not working 24+ hours straight.

see wallys post here about his recent work hours during the storm..

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/snow/30086/page2/

These guys do work 24 hours plus... CDL or not. It's fairly common..

Is what they did right? Nope.. Where they probably so tired they couldn't see straight.. Yep..

cwh
cwh SuperDork
12/29/10 8:57 a.m.

I read on another site that the SUV is City owned. At least some citizen isn't hurt.

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
12/29/10 9:19 a.m.

Why can't you put the bucket down lifting the front wheels off the ground a bit. The vehicle articulates in the middle, turning right would push the tractor body away from the parked car.

Lift bucket, turn left, repeat.

My son had to drive 200 miles to get to work in NYC yesterday, trains are still on "holiday schedule". He works on 2nd Ave between 44th and 45th St. They plow all the snow into the center of the street to open one lane of traffic. That's it. Friday will be 40 degrees and hopefully it will melt.

Dan

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/29/10 2:09 p.m.

I agree on lifting the wheels with the bucket. I have seen construction guys do amazing things with the articulated buckets some of those things have.

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
12/29/10 2:46 p.m.

D'ja see that guy walk on up onto his truck? Talent.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
12/29/10 2:48 p.m.

More coverage, via CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2010/12/29/exp.hln.cars.slammed.folo.cnn?hpt=C2

nutherjrfan
nutherjrfan HalfDork
12/29/10 2:51 p.m.

the sidewalk was perfectly cleared, presumably by the super, go figure.

Ignorant
Ignorant SuperDork
12/29/10 4:28 p.m.

In other news.. You NEED 2 suv's in the city..

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/29/10 6:32 p.m.

beyond words......

TRoglodyte
TRoglodyte Reader
12/29/10 8:18 p.m.

Perfect example of how snow makes everything stupider.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/30/10 6:16 a.m.

It's easy to sit in your underware and shout obsecnities out a window. For several years now the city has been cutting back on staff and equipment, and then when something like this happens they want everything cleared yesterday.

Most likely the two drivers only use tow trucks and loaders in deep snow so they have little experience on getting unstuck. Once they hit the suv they were going to be taken out of service so it really didn't matter if they hit it a second or tenth time, they might as well finish getting the machine out so the replacement operator can get right to work with it.

Looking at it afterwards it's easy to try and second guess what they should have done, but at the time on little sleep with supervisors and people on the sidewalk constantly yelling to move faster you just try and keep things moving the best you can.

In Reply to oldopelguy:

In storms and other emergencies working 24hrs is not uncommon, and when we do get some down time we normally can't get home so any sleep we get is usually in a lunch room or someone's car.

Inspite of what most people think we don't all sit around drinking coffee like the women at DMV.

TRoglodyte
TRoglodyte Reader
12/30/10 6:25 a.m.

I didn't know their was a supervisor onsight ,that explains everything

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/30/10 6:47 a.m.
TRoglodyte wrote: I didn't know their was a supervisor onsight ,that explains everything

If they are like ours they wouldn't be out in the cold, just several of them yelling over each other on the radio.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
12/30/10 8:44 a.m.

There are now rumblings that there was a work "slowdown" as a protest over budget and staffing cuts. The department has been cut from 6300 to 5900 positions and some supervisors are getting demoted:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sanit_filthy_snow_slow_mo_qH57MZwC53QKOJlekSSDJK

I'll suggest the public outcry is related to NYC's ongoing quest to generate more revenue via more (and higher) taxes AND reducing services - kinda like a restaurant charging full price for a meal and then serving child-size portions.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/30/10 1:46 p.m.

They are looking into that now. If there was a slowdown anywhere I hope the people involved are found out and dealt with. The storm was bad enough, that was not the time to screw around like that.

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