GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/29/14 6:38 p.m.

If you're the type happy to brush off modern surveillance as something only "terrorists" should worry about, you should consider how far you are from being considered a "terrorist" and what that could lead to. Here's what happened to one such dangerous person back when even a dial-up BBS might as well have been The Matrix:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/fbis-suicide-letter-dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-dangers-unchecked-surveillance

Being a Muslim or a cypherpunk is already enough to make yourself "interesting"...are you "boring" enough?

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
12/29/14 7:06 p.m.

I'm interested to read some of the responses to this thread, but not interesting in posting my opinion.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/29/14 7:23 p.m.

"We're from the government, we're here to help."

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
12/29/14 8:23 p.m.
T.J. wrote: I'm interested to read some of the responses to this thread, but not interesting in posting my opinion.

Duke
Duke UltimaDork
12/29/14 8:44 p.m.

We've done it to ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame. And only we can fix it. But we won't.

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/29/14 8:58 p.m.
Duke wrote: We've done it to ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame. And only we can fix it. But we won't.

QFT (unfortunately)

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/30/14 8:18 a.m.

we won't/can't fix it because we (as a people) think that more cameras is a good thing. Most people cannot even remember when there was not cameras everywhere.

As interesting aside. Way back in the early 90s when I was in college, there was a nasty drag out fight that resulted in somebody going to the hospital. The problem was, nobody knew who the assailant was.. until they realized the fight took place in front of the only ATM on campus with it's little camera.

Cameras started popping up all over campus after that. The kids did not want them, the teachers did not want them, the parents did

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/30/14 8:19 a.m.

I am hoping they can start reading our thoughts, because I really would like to know what I was thinking sometimes!

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
12/30/14 8:33 a.m.

One time, they put a camera in my colon. True story.

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
12/30/14 8:35 a.m.

they've stuck one up my butt twice now …

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
12/30/14 8:51 a.m.

Right, everyone wants cameras until they are pointed at themselves.

Will
Will SuperDork
12/30/14 9:59 a.m.

Never invite the man into your life until absolutely necessary.

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse Dork
12/30/14 10:05 a.m.

Pretty soon, surveillance cameras won't be necessary. Everyone's taking so many videos and pictures of themselves and plopping them up on FaceSpace already.

We have met the enemy, and he is us.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
12/30/14 10:13 a.m.

Gee. Half-century-old irrelevance. I'm sure things have gotten better by now.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/30/14 10:20 a.m.
wbjones wrote: they've stuck one up my butt twice now …

I have some glossy photos of what is up my butt

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
12/30/14 10:34 a.m.

If you find what the FBI did back then disturbing, I strongly suggest you don't google things like "Project MKUltra".

oldtin
oldtin UberDork
12/30/14 10:43 a.m.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ HalfDork
12/30/14 10:48 a.m.

In reply to Kenny_McCormic:

Thank you for that. The Wikipedia on it is fascinating: "surprise acid trips became something of an occupational hazard among CIA operatives"

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
12/30/14 11:17 a.m.

I do have to say I like when camera's catch systemic police violence.

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