Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/1/13 3:36 a.m.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/five-star-lockups-inmates-review-jails-on-yelp

Yelp isn't just for restaurant reviews anymore. Many jails are now featured on the site, where users complain about conditions or, believe it or not, praise the food.

How's the food? What about the decor? Was the staff helpful?

While most would associate these questions with a $100-a-head eatery, they also apply to jail and prison reviews on Yelp, where former inmates, current employees, visitors and even lawyers are chiming in and grading lock-ups.

The content of the reviews ranges from playful laments about the quality of the grub to serious accusations of mistreatment and abuse.

One former inmate at California's San Quentin State Prison took issue with the food on most days, but noted that he particularly enjoys Friday and Sunday, which bring "chicken on the bone day" and "microwaveable-like grand slam breakfast," respectively.

He also tackled more serious subjects, detailing which gangs hang out in which areas and the disposition of the guards at the prison. "The violence is high to low depending on where your [sic] housed ... mostly stabbings happen In … reception," he said.

Manhattan Central Booking in New York, also known as The Tombs, earned a three-star rating on Yelp. Most common among the complaints about The Tombs is the quality of the food.

"Their menu needs work," one Yelper wrote. "The Kool-Aid helps the nasty water taste a little bit better, but their sandwiches are awful. The bread is reminiscent of styrofoam and the bologna is rough around the edges."

Amid the gastronomic critiques, a Georgia man wrote last summer that he was beaten by a team of guards at Los Angeles County Jail for their personal pleasure. Another user called that jail "hellish."

Orleans Parish Prison in New Orleans — which made headlines earlier this month when video footage emerged of prisoners openly using drugs and brandishing guns — earned a two-star rating on Yelp. One reviewer, who said he spent a night there for a public intoxication charge, said he witnessed "crack being smoked/sold openly," a holding room "full of vomit/feces/urine where we were held for 4 hours with no running water" and "a crackhead projectile vomit in a room where 30 of us were packed in to a space designed for no more than 12."

While the online reviews can be lighthearted at times, civil liberty advocates say they underscore a glaring lack of internal scrutiny and recourse for inmates inside of American jails. According to the Washington Post, only two states, New York and Texas, have independent inspectors who monitor lockup conditions.

In the other 48 states, inmates seeking redress are left largely to their own devices. Oftentimes, their complaints barely get off the ground. In accordance with a 1996 law, inmates cannot sue over prison conditions until they've exhausted administrative procedures, which can take years, go nowhere and invite retaliation from unscrupulous prison officials.

"We teach them, inside of prison, that the rule of law is not effective," Jack Beck, who runs the legislatively sanctioned Correctional Association of New York, told the Washington Post. "There is no redress .... Most people survive by keeping their heads down."

David Fathi, director of the National Prison Project of the American Civil Liberties Union, told the Post that his group receives 300 to 400 written complaints each month about prison conditions, a figure which does not include phone calls and e-mails to the ACLU's state branches. With so few avenues of grievance available to inmates, Fathi said online reviews can actually be an invaluable resource for prisoners and reformers.

"Prisons and jails are closed institutions, and the lack of outside scrutiny and oversight sometimes facilitates mistreatment and abuse," Fathi told the Post. "So anything that increases public awareness of prison conditions is a positive thing."

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/1/13 6:33 a.m.

[must resist urge to set up yelp account just to declare all prisons to be luxury facilities]

HappyAndy
HappyAndy SuperDork
5/1/13 6:43 a.m.

I used to know an old biker dude that said he was going to write a prison review and guide book. He said he'd done time in every state on the east coast and most of the southern states in the sixties through the early eighties. Mostly a few days to months per stretch for starting bar fights, public drunkenness ect.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
5/1/13 7:13 a.m.

Bwahahahaha! Suckers!

drainoil
drainoil Reader
5/1/13 9:05 a.m.

Dont drop the soap.

ronholm
ronholm HalfDork
5/1/13 9:43 a.m.

My wife is the programs director at a county jail. All of the inmate request forms come across her desk. They bitch about everything nonstop. What else do they have to do.

Where are these guys posting this stuff from?

PHeller
PHeller UltraDork
5/1/13 9:48 a.m.

I consider myself a humanitarian, but I dont believe our prisons instill enough fear in criminals.

Food, water, sanitation, everything else should be determined by the severity of crime.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
5/1/13 10:07 a.m.
PHeller wrote: I consider myself a humanitarian, but I dont believe our prisons instill enough fear in criminals. Food, water, sanitation, everything else should be determined by the severity of crime.

3 squares, a cot, and cable television......there are a good percentage of the inmates who didn't have that going in. Many almost seem to enjoy prison.

ronholm wrote: My wife is the programs director at a county jail. All of the inmate request forms come across her desk. They bitch about everything nonstop. What else do they have to do.

Yes they do complain about everything, its why legitimate claims get pushed into the trash can with all the other crap. Funniest one I got was "the officer confiscated my bag of marijuana"

ronholm wrote: Where are these guys posting this stuff from?

Ever wonder what those guys who are in the "Education" courses for the time cut are doing in the computer lab? I'll guess thats the biggest contributor for the prisons, and I would rank cellphones as the #2 way people are posting these. I worked in the field for 2 years, that was enough for a lifetime.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/1/13 10:21 a.m.

and now it all makes sense to me. there's a line in the Jim Carroll Band song "People Who Died" where one of the characters "hung himself from a cell in the tombs." i always wondered WTF that meant.

article said: Manhattan Central Booking in New York, also known as The Tombs,
Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
5/1/13 11:39 a.m.

Had prison described to me this way: 3 hots, a cot and all the sex you can stand.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/1/13 5:10 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: Had prison described to me this way: 3 hots, a cot and all the sex you can stand.

i heard prison is like high school: the sex you want, you can't get. the sex you get, you don't want.

drsmooth
drsmooth Reader
5/2/13 11:53 p.m.
In accordance with a 1996 law, inmates cannot sue over prison conditions until they've exhausted administrative procedures, which can take years, go nowhere and invite retaliation from unscrupulous prison officials.

Similar to living in Ontario, Canada... If Police in Ontario do something against the rules, You have to essentially present you case to a "court" appointed by the Chief of Police for the jurisdiction you were taking action against. Yeah... That process will get you far!!!....

It is like a Hockey coach deciding whether or not his player gets a penalty..

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