914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
8/11/14 2:42 p.m.

Three students, all in their second season of training; did spin training last weekend. It's a requirement in gliders. In a thermal you're in tremendous lift, leaving it is like going over a waterfall. You can mitigate the sensation, anticipate what's happening next and make it easier on yourself and the equipment; but knowing how to recover from an unintentional spin is a good thing to have in your kit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV-dca3vxW4&feature=em-share_video_user

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
8/11/14 3:16 p.m.

Spin training?

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/11/14 3:39 p.m.

Damn, that looks like fun!

Edit: both the original post and the photo too...

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
8/11/14 4:05 p.m.

I wish they required powered pilot to get spin training. The FAA doesn't.

I remember the look on Dan Adams' face when I said I knew its not required, but I want spin training.

We beat the hell from that Cessna 152, but she wouldn't spin. The cross control was ridiculous.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/11/14 4:25 p.m.

Soaring in a glider has always intrigued me. We spend a lot of time in Franconia, New Hampshire and every weekend they are flying over the house. (Unfortunately, it's hard to miss the sound of the tow plane). I have a standing invite to go along for a ride, and I was considering it, but after watching your video, I'm pretty sure that it's not gonna happen. Oddly enough, the spins didn't bother me at all, but I could see myself freaking out while being towed down the runway. It actually took me two attempts to watch the first minute of the video. I didn't expect that.

orphancars
orphancars Reader
8/11/14 4:43 p.m.

Awwwwwwww hellllll no!

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
8/11/14 5:27 p.m.

There’s enough manufacturing variation and flight control range calibration variation to cause big differences between aircraft. I learned to fly in 1980 at a flight training center that had four 152’s. One absolutely would not spin, two required serious provocation, and one would consistently do it with just an assertive request.

Somebody look up N4568B and see if it’s still in service…it was one of the two “serious provocation” planes and was my favorite for several reasons like it had the grab points so you didn’t have to get a ladder to check the tanks. Anyway, thank you very much for the video 914. BTW, my flight instructor drove a 914 and was a pretty crazy guy…no problem talking him into going for a “spin”.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
8/11/14 5:42 p.m.
RX Reven' wrote: ...Somebody look up N4568B...

Are you sure about that N number? Currently it's assigned to a Moody Excalibur (ultralight kind of thing).

http://www.aviationdb.com/Aviation/Aircraft/4/N4568B.shtm

Do they re-use N numbers?

The N number before is a Piper Cherokee (PA-22 right?) and the one after is a 210, so it seems like the number has been re-assigned.

Now, bow you heads in remembrance of a workhorse 150...

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
8/11/14 5:55 p.m.
aircooled wrote:
RX Reven' wrote: ...Somebody look up N4568B...
Are you sure about that N number? Currently it's assigned to a Moody Excalibur (ultralight kind of thing). http://www.aviationdb.com/Aviation/Aircraft/4/N4568B.shtm Do they re-use N numbers? The N number before is a Piper Cherokee (PA-22 right?) and the one after is a 210, so it seems like the number has been re-assigned. Now, bow you heads in remembrance of a workhorse 150...

…99.9% sure it was N4568B so apparently they can be reassigned; wonder what happened.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
8/11/14 5:56 p.m.

That video looks like so much fun.

neon4891
neon4891 UltimaDork
8/11/14 6:59 p.m.

Fun. The father of a friend was a glider pilot. He would talk for hours about soaring and his modified glider. He had a popular model(that I forget) and it had an enlarged canopy and some other efficiency mods. Also very into guns. I think he liked me more than his daughter's boyfriend. It's a shame she turned bat E36 M3 crazy because her dad was awesome.

BenB
BenB Reader
8/12/14 6:26 a.m.

I used to love teaching spins in a C-150!

trucke
trucke Reader
8/12/14 8:25 a.m.

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing the video. Always wanted to fly a glider. I was amazed how easy the recover was. Seemed to be very little control inputs.

Back in '86 we did spin training in Piper Cubs. Went out over the ocean and picked a sailboat to target the descent. Not the brightest thing, but we were young and dumb.

Here is one of those cubs. The other N1138V seems to no longer be in service.

Got to fly 1141V on skis in the snow once.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden SuperDork
8/12/14 10:05 a.m.

I got my private rating in a Cessna 150. I requested spin training. The first spin scared me. I am glad that I got the training, it is fun once you know what is happening and how to recover.

N# can be reassigned. Owners sometimes move the # to another airplane when they get a different airplane

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
8/12/14 2:11 p.m.

Woody, we are also trained in what to do if the rope breaks. Once you learn how to turn, how to do straight and level flight, that's next on the list. Nothing to it.

Take a ride. You can close your eyes for the first 45 seconds.

Youtube Bruno Vassel, he's got about 80 vids up there. NONE are as scary as the one I put up. The point of this exercise is to show you what happens and how to recover, three turns is a bit excessive/unnecessary but that's the Instructors' discretion.

Bruno:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITl8bItBmUo&list=UUEFlKFCFhuoacr_qCYu1I5Q&index=13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nNUmAUJUso

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