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GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/4/10 10:42 a.m.

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/deepwater_horizon_secret_memo.html

TL;DR version: Leaked report estimates massive oil spillage in a worse-case scenario.

The spill would be so huge that global extinction is a real possibility

Related: After pointing that out this seems like small beans, but some species of sea turtle are so rare that killing a couple dozen more than usual would put the species in jeopardy:

http://news.discovery.com/animals/sea-turtles-washing-up-dead-near-oil-spill-site.html

scardeal
scardeal Reader
5/4/10 10:48 a.m.

Not to mention that I might not be able to get crawfish when I go to New Orleans this weekend.

Think of the children!

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
5/4/10 11:22 a.m.

I have evolved to breathe petroleum so I'm cool. You guys are screwed, however.

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
5/4/10 12:36 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: The spill would be so huge that global extinction is a real possibility

Global extinction?

From whose butt was that deduction pulled?

Kia_racer
Kia_racer Reader
5/4/10 12:42 p.m.
scardeal wrote: Not to mention that I might not be able to get crawfish when I go to New Orleans this weekend. Think of the children!

Don't worry crawfish are fresh water. No shrimp is the real problem.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/4/10 12:45 p.m.

Just based on some back-of-the-napkin calculations going on at Slashdot, assuming the worse case scenario of an Exxon Valdez' worth of spillage every 3 days until the well is empty. Some more authoritative figures should chime in once this hits the media (probably tomorrow).

RossD
RossD Dork
5/4/10 12:59 p.m.

Dont they clean up the oiled up critters with dawn dish soap? Lets just dump a tanker full of dawn at the site and walk/boat away.

/thread

(Anyways saving a species with only a couple dozen of them is anti-Darwinism. Only the strong survive. )

Kia_racer
Kia_racer Reader
5/4/10 1:02 p.m.
RossD wrote: (Anyways saving a species with only a couple dozen of them is anti-Darwinism. Only the strong survive. )

Not what darwin said.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/4/10 1:04 p.m.
RossD wrote: Dont they clean up the oiled up critters with dawn dish soap? Lets just dump a tanker full of dawn at the site and walk/boat away. /thread (Anyways saving a species with only a couple dozen of them is anti-Darwinism. Only the strong survive. )

If it makes you feel any better about saving them, apparently the creatures and their eggs are extremely tasty (that's why they're endangered) but they're one peg above pandas on reproductive ability. So if they weren't endangered, there would be another tasty edible creature out there. Isn't that what you want for your children?

furcylndrfoury
furcylndrfoury SuperDork
5/4/10 1:22 p.m.
oldsaw wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: The spill would be so huge that global extinction is a real possibility
Global extinction? From whose butt was that deduction pulled?

foxtrapper
foxtrapper SuperDork
5/4/10 1:43 p.m.

The word extinction doesn't even appear on that web page. Let alone "global extinction". No mention of it what so ever.

I take it you decided on your own to put that bit in there?

jrw1621
jrw1621 Dork
5/4/10 1:46 p.m.

How soon until this is blamed for the need to have $4/gal gas?
I predict an expensive summer travel season.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/4/10 1:52 p.m.
foxtrapper wrote: The word extinction doesn't even appear on that web page. Let alone "global extinction". No mention of it what so ever. I take it you decided on your own to put that bit in there?

That's right, it's based on some nerds' estimates.

http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/05/03/212210/How-Bad-Is-the-Gulf-Coast-Oil-Spill?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29

Search through the thread for some different arguments.

96DXCivic
96DXCivic Dork
5/4/10 1:52 p.m.
jrw1621 wrote: How soon until this is blamed for the need to have $4/gal gas? I predict an expensive summer travel season.

Oh E36 M3 I didn't think about that one. Ah! I hate being broke in college.

shadetree30
shadetree30 New Reader
5/4/10 1:54 p.m.

Lessee, rig blows up, kills eleven people, and sinks. No one has asked any questions regarding sabotage/terrorism, except apparently ruling it out?

Kia_racer
Kia_racer Reader
5/4/10 1:58 p.m.

I was wondering about BP's history of not keeping up with maintence just to save a few bucks.

96DXCivic
96DXCivic Dork
5/4/10 1:59 p.m.

Couldn't they just light the oil on fire?

Kia_racer
Kia_racer Reader
5/4/10 2:03 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote: Couldn't they just light the oil on fire?

They did! It didn't help much. A lot of the oil is floating under the surface.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/4/10 2:03 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote: Couldn't they just light the oil on fire?

The USCG's been "corraling" it and lighting it, but it's an uphill battle.

Tommy Suddard
Tommy Suddard GRM+ Memberand SonDork
5/4/10 2:05 p.m.

No, the oil is mixed with water, and doesn't burn well.

This spill will basically kill the Keys, both economically and environmentally. It's projected to enter the gulfstream and be on the east coast in a month. Florida is screwed.

Kia_racer
Kia_racer Reader
5/4/10 2:16 p.m.

And this happend right after the Pres. said we could drill off the east coast.

Great.

Autolex
Autolex HalfDork
5/4/10 2:51 p.m.
Tommy Suddard wrote: Florida is screwed.

Dammit! QFT

cwh
cwh SuperDork
5/4/10 3:01 p.m.

It appears that there was no "Plan B" for the possibility of this. How can that be? Drilling 5000' down, and you don't plan on Bad Things happening? Blow outs happen. Explosions happen. You plan for it, right? This is going to take years to play out, the Gulf coast is toast, the Keys, East coast how far up? I wonder if BP people are consulting with Exxon on how to handle this. At least they won't go bankrupt, but price of gas will certainly go up.

confuZion3
confuZion3 SuperDork
5/4/10 3:04 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote:
jrw1621 wrote: How soon until this is blamed for the need to have $4/gal gas? I predict an expensive summer travel season.
Oh E36 M3 I didn't think about that one. Ah! I hate being broke in college.

Summer travel requires more than gas money--which is why I never could travel. I didn't care about gas prices because they didn't mean anything to me since I couldn't afford to eat, sleep, or have fun at any choice destination.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/4/10 3:28 p.m.

It's having an impact in subtle ways already. I talked to a friend ~30 minutes ago who just canceled their upcoming trip to Steinhatchee (a little fishing town in the northern half of the West coast of Florida) for scalloping. Coastal tourism is going to get hammered.

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