I guess he didn't want ken Block to get all the attention.
Pastrana might do some seriously crazy stuff from time to time, but he knows how to get serious when he has to.
He is a pretty cool guy, I did his title work back about 5 years ago before I knew who he was. I was looking at the title of the house and wondering, why does this 18 yr old kid have a million dollar house??
One of the other searchers told me he was a extreme motorcross rider, he got into rally driving soon after.
I've heard it many times before but still don't understand it.
Does anyone speak WRC Rallye Navigator language?
Thanx.
Hard to compare to the old record since the hill has more than a mile more pavement now than it did back then.
OK, that vid was almost as terrifying to me as the antenna-climbing one. No way I could do those speeds anywhere near those drops.
914Driver wrote: I've heard it many times before but still don't understand it. Does anyone speak WRC Rallye Navigator language? Thanx.
Bill Caswell explains at 6:21 http://thestory.org/archive/the_story_1021_Bill_Caswell.mp3
Bill Caswell said: All the corners are in degrees of one through six, and a six being almost like a straight away, and a one being an extremely tight hairpin. You know, "right five" would be nearly a straight away, and a "right one" would be a hairpin to the right. and then you have modifiers, so there's a "opens/tightens" which changes the radius of the corner, so instead of being a constant radius, it's going to pull in more at the end. Um...and there's plusses and minuses, almost like sharps and flats in music, if you will, to kind of bridge between the numbers. So someone will be reading in your helmet and might say, "right four over crest into left two followed you know 60," which, you know, means a 60 gap, "into right one, caution..."
Frank Sprongl, the guy last set the Mt. Washington Hillclimb record, doesn't sound too impressed with Pastrana's run:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/17/frank-sprongl-weighs-in-on-travis-pastranas-mt-washington-auto/
914Driver wrote: I've heard it many times before but still don't understand it. Does anyone speak WRC Rallye Navigator language? Thanx.
Here's a website that explains US rally pacenotes:
http://www.jemba.se/notesUSA.htm
I can't hate on the guy. He's having a friggin' BLAST in his life. Just a great attitude.
Impressive clip...
that video was much better then the Ken block, Block video's seam too art'sy for what they should be. My .02 cents
Block's a talented driver for sure, so is Pastrana. Between the two of them we Colonials have the best shot at a US driver winning a WRC championship EVAR. So I say the best to both of them!
Volksroddin wrote: that video was much better then the Ken block, Block video's seam too art'sy for what they should be. My .02 cents
whatever you may think of either of thsoe videos, Ken Block and Travis Pastrana are almost totally responsible for young kids thinking that rally racing is cool. thanks to them, my 10 year old and 5 year old nephews think rally racing is the second greatest thing in the world- surpassed only by motocross and followed closely by Monster Jam.
their Dish Network DVR is packed full of Nitro Circus episodes where Pastrana and his buddies do all sorts of unnatural things with everything from tricycles to rally cars to monster trucks..
Great video. I'd have liked to see more wide exterior shots, but the logistics of filming something like this must be crazy.
A matching pair of thumbs up.
I wish Red Bull would show the entire video of the run like Sprongl's video.
That being said, it's still a great achievement. Having met and spoken to Pastrana a couple of times at this year's New England Forest Rally, I can attest to him being the nicest guy on Earth and being super-talented. He was trading the lead at NEFR with Block until Block's Fiesta pogo-ed off into the trees (His Fiesta is a rallycross car, which has less suspension travel than a stage rally car). He lead all the way until the middle of the last stage, where mechanical issues took him out of the race and allowed L'Estrange to win.
novaderrik wrote:Volksroddin wrote: that video was much better then the Ken block, Block video's seam too art'sy for what they should be. My .02 centswhatever you may think of either of thsoe videos, Ken Block and Travis Pastrana are almost totally responsible for young kids thinking that rally racing is cool. thanks to them, my 10 year old and 5 year old nephews think rally racing is the second greatest thing in the world- surpassed only by motocross and followed closely by Monster Jam. their Dish Network DVR is packed full of Nitro Circus episodes where Pastrana and his buddies do all sorts of unnatural things with everything from tricycles to rally cars to monster trucks..
add Thrillbillies to their list. It is nitro circus with more people and more insane (sometimes stupid) stuff.
That Sprongl guy has all valid points, but still sounds like a sore loser. That was a sweet run, and considering I just drove up the mountain in July, I recognized some of the turns and stuff. Very cool.
This is the same point being brought up at Pikes Peak. With more pavement every year, the course is never going to be the same so times are hard to compare. Right now, you would think that times would be dropping with more than half the course paved, but the record is still from a year when most of the course was dirt. Soon, the entire course will be paved and a new record book may need to be established. Add sequential gearboxes, active diffs, and so on, and its comparing apples to oranges. The only way to set a definitive record? Send up the Stig.
IMHO, the need for tires that work on both surfaces means a compromise that affects performance. When you can run all-dirt or all-pavement, times will be better.
I believe Red Bull intends to have a special on NBC this fall, where there will be more footage of the event. I was lucky enough to be there. I've been around hill climbs for the last decade or so.The guy can drive. On a side note. You will never catch me hanging out of a helicopter to film a car, harness or not. I'd sooner co-drive for Stevie Wonder on that hill. Certainly the best news, is the return of the hill climb next summer even if it's a one time deal.
Twin_Cam wrote: That Sprongl guy has all valid points, but still sounds like a sore loser. That was a sweet run, and considering I just drove up the mountain in July, I recognized some of the turns and stuff. Very cool.
Have you ever met/talked to Frank? He (IMO) is right up there with John Buffum in regards to rallying "legendary" status. The fact remains that Frank still holds the true fastest hill climb time under competition. Having a co-driver is a HUGE advantage compared to driving blind... really, there is no comparison. Add to that more pavement, and the run (while impressive) does not (and should not) hold the weight Frank's run does. I would hope that Travis would come back and run at the actual event under competition conditions.
Opus wrote:novaderrik wrote:add Thrillbillies to their list. It is nitro circus with more people and more insane (sometimes stupid) stuff.Volksroddin wrote: that video was much better then the Ken block, Block video's seam too art'sy for what they should be. My .02 centswhatever you may think of either of thsoe videos, Ken Block and Travis Pastrana are almost totally responsible for young kids thinking that rally racing is cool. thanks to them, my 10 year old and 5 year old nephews think rally racing is the second greatest thing in the world- surpassed only by motocross and followed closely by Monster Jam. their Dish Network DVR is packed full of Nitro Circus episodes where Pastrana and his buddies do all sorts of unnatural things with everything from tricycles to rally cars to monster trucks..
oh, they are fully aware of Thrillbillies.. they have all the dvd's. but Thrillbillies doesn't inspire them the way Nitro Circus does..
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