Stories like these bother me a lot. I'm a cat person. Used to hate dogs. Then I met my now wife the dog person. I've learned that it's ALWAYS the owner. Why must shiny happy people mistreat or ignore their dogs to the point that they're unhappy, or try to make a quiet dog out of a breed meant to speak?
vwcorvette wrote: Stories like these bother me a lot. I'm a cat person. Used to hate dogs. Then I met my now wife the dog person. I've learned that it's ALWAYS the owner. Why must shiny happy people mistreat or ignore their dogs to the point that they're unhappy, or try to make a quiet dog out of a breed meant to speak?
Dogs are like kids. Sure it's mostly the parent/owner, but some are just shiny happy people by nature and nothing anyone could ever do will fix it.
I had to stop hanging out with a friend because the dog his wife inherited from her grandfather couldn't breathe without barking. It was like an everything is ok alarm, an alarm that goes off as long as everything is ok.
Dogs are more like dogs than kids. As stated above, it is ALWAYS the owner.
Had a guy that lived behind me in Texas. He had two kids, maybe 15 yo daughter, 20 yo son. Father was away a lot, so the kids sort of did as they pleased. Son got a good looking little lab pup, left it tied up outside all night, every night, and it barked all night long. Went over to talk to him, ask him to maybe tie the dog in front instead of behind the house, they did not have any fences. He was very confrontational, the dog is fine right where he is. I turned to leave, clearly getting nowhere, he is ready to fight, "Is that all you are going to do, Bob Costas" I walked away, patted the dog on the head, "Good looking dog, shame if something were to happen to him." He never left that dog outside at night again. We had to call the cops on those people a few times, but the father had a restaurant and fed all the local cops for free, so that did not go anywhere. Bad neighbors are tough to live with.
Pheller, what did the guy with the dog have to say when you talked to him about it?
FWIW, there are a few mentions in this thread of tying up dogs. Here that is illegal. Probably is many other places as well.
No person shall tether, fasten, chain, tie, or restrain a dog, or cause such restraining of a dog, to a tree, fence, post, dog house, or other stationary object.
Toyman01 wrote: This worked fairly well on our dog 10 years ago. Looks like a birdhouse. Mount it on a post aimed at the offending dog. http://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcostore/product/petsafe-ultrasonic-outdoor-bark-control
Haha. We tried one of these. It made things infinitely worse. My dog gave it a puzzled look then just barked at it non-stop. Returned it the next day.
We've done the bark collar thing as well. It works well, I just hate having him wear 3 collars though 
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vwcorvette wrote: try to make a quiet dog out of a breed meant to speak?
Curious, how do you know that you are getting a breed meant to speak? If you have such a breed... how do you let them do that without annoying the E36 M3 out of all of your neighbors?
I adopted my dog (mutt) from a rescue when he was 6 weeks old. He didn't start barking until he was over a year old. I'm sure this is a pretty common experience for people... they have no idea their dog is going to be a barker at first.
ProDarwin wrote:vwcorvette wrote: try to make a quiet dog out of a breed meant to speak?Curious, how do you know that you are getting a breed meant to speak? If you have such a breed... how do you let them do that without annoying the E36 M3 out of all of your neighbors? I adopted my dog (mutt) from a rescue when he was 6 weeks old. He didn't start barking until he was over a year old. I'm sure this is a pretty common experience for people... they have no idea their dog is going to be a barker at first.
There are certain breeds that are known as barkers. Asking a Great Pyrenees not to bark is like asking a fish not to swim.
Obviously with unknown breeds (mutts) it is very difficult and often not possible to know.
In regards to it always being the owner, I tend to agree. Far too many people are not up to the responsibility of dog ownership. A dog is outside alone barking up a storm? Well, the dog didn't put itself there and neglect itself. It is ironic this is hitting the forum at around the same time the chicken question is up.
On average, a dog is all of these things compared to a chicken: 1. Large 2. Noisy 3. Smelly 4. Dangerous
Yet, any mouth breathing moron is allowed to have a dog just about anywhere they can stuff one and nobody bats an eye while chickens are highly regulated. I like both dogs and chickens. However, if every dog was replaced with a chicken by some magic, the world would be a measurably better place I think. The bad owners with bad dogs would now have bad chickens, but that is SO much more manageable.
NEALSMO wrote: I'd feel bad, but the neighbors had barkers for years, now it's payback time.
Um, what about your neighbors who never had any dogs at all?
WilD wrote: The bad owners with bad dogs would now have bad chickens, but that is SO much more manageable.
Very true. My neighbors had a very bad dog (poorly cared for). Now they have a rooster (it was 2 hens + a rooster, but not its just a rooster so... ???). Its a lot better now.
The rooster does roam freely into our yard sometimes. I'm surprised that A) My dog hasn't killed it yet and B) it hasn't got in a fight and totally berkeleyed up my dog yet. That thing has some huge claws.
JamesMcD wrote:NEALSMO wrote: I'd feel bad, but the neighbors had barkers for years, now it's payback time.Um, what about your neighbors who never had any dogs at all?
She only barks on the side of the house that has the dog neighbors, so most of the noise is concentrated over there.
Only had a "neighbor with barking dog" problem once. Friendly next door neighbor of 2 years bought a Beagle. I would see him out in the back yard playing with the dog and taking the dog for a walk every night. Never heard the dog bark at all.
Then one Monday the dog started barking about 9am. It was out in the fenced back yard and continued barking day and night for 3 days. Then we didn't hear it until the next Monday and it continued barking till Wednesday evening again.
That weekend I saw the neighbor out walking the dog and said something about it. As I was talking I could tell by the look on his face that he was getting very angry. All he said was "I'll take care of it".
Turned out that his job had changed and now he was on the road Mon-Wed. As soon as he left his wife who did not like the dog would put it out in the backyard and ignore it (except to feed it) until he returned.
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