Me to lady customer; I didn't know you had a 3 series BMW?
Her; it's my dads. It rides hard though because of those nitrogen filled tires.
Me; oh yeah?
Do you get stupid comments and just agree because there is no point in continuing?
Me to lady customer; I didn't know you had a 3 series BMW?
Her; it's my dads. It rides hard though because of those nitrogen filled tires.
Me; oh yeah?
Do you get stupid comments and just agree because there is no point in continuing?
In reply to Pete240Z:
But does she like the hard ride?
Derick Freese wrote: In reply to Pete240Z: But does she like the hard ride?
Hey, now....!!!
Tell her she needs to try a different brand of nitrogen, or you need to use oem only, or that its probably expired.
Pete240Z wrote: Do you get stupid comments and just agree because there is no point in continuing?
It's so much easier that way.
Like the guy in line at the parts store who was "helping" the guy ahead of him in line, regarding a brake job on a Honda. Apparently those little screws are SUPER CRITICAL because they keep the rotor centered. The guys behind the counter started to argue that they weren't, but gave up because it's just easier to let people who are married to their delusions have 'em.
How about nitrogen enriched gasoline?
Oxygenated water?
Knurled wrote:Pete240Z wrote: Do you get stupid comments and just agree because there is no point in continuing?It's so much easier that way. Like the guy in line at the parts store who was "helping" the guy ahead of him in line, regarding a brake job on a Honda. Apparently those little screws are SUPER CRITICAL because they keep the rotor centered. The guys behind the counter started to argue that they weren't, but gave up because it's just easier to let people who are married to their delusions have 'em.
McParts store customers, they are funny/stupid.
some girls like a hard ride
Pete240Z wrote: Apparently those little screws are SUPER CRITICAL because they keep the rotor centered. The guys behind the counter started to argue that they weren't, but gave up because it's just easier to let people who are married to their delusions have 'em.
I don't know about Hondas, but my friend's Escort was very unhappy without them. The (Firestone) shop that did the work which involved removing them was adamant that they didn't matter, but the hub opening and lug holes allowed a fair bit of radial mis/dislocation; there was nothing to center the drum, and it made a bunch of racket 'til I sourced some replacement screws.
Again, no idea on Hondas, but just 'cause they're only assembly line aides on some cars doesn't mean they're not important on others...
Maybe she just needs fresh nitrogen. Did she have it changed after 3500 miles?
wonder if they are related?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Ps9310ih8&feature=related
ransom wrote:Pete240Z wrote: Apparently those little screws are SUPER CRITICAL because they keep the rotor centered. The guys behind the counter started to argue that they weren't, but gave up because it's just easier to let people who are married to their delusions have 'em.I don't know about Hondas, but my friend's Escort was very unhappy without them. The (Firestone) shop that did the work which involved removing them was adamant that they didn't matter, but the hub opening and lug holes allowed a fair bit of radial mis/dislocation; there was nothing to center the drum, and it made a bunch of racket 'til I sourced some replacement screws. Again, no idea on Hondas, but just 'cause they're only assembly line aides on some cars doesn't mean they're not important on others...
Don't know what Escort your friend had but I have had several. Your firends story sounds like the subject of this thread.
In reply to iceracer:
The plain facts:
So clearly you should smile and nod and let me have my delusion
Maybe it was crap aftermarket drums with oversized bores. I have no idea, as it's the only Escort I've dealt with. But the symptom aligns with an apparent lack of location which was rectified by the screws, and restoring the screws permanently fixed an otherwise recurring issue. Shrug.
ransom wrote: In reply to iceracer: The plain facts: * Her brakes would chirp once with each revolution of the wheel. * The drums were not effectively located by the hub and studs, being free to move radially 1/16"+ * Attempting to center the drum and tighten the wheel down would provide **very** brief relief. * Adding the screws positively located the drum, and the chirp was permanently banished. So clearly you should smile and nod and let me have my delusion
wait, so you identified the problem, found the solution, performed the solution, and the problem went away?
nah you're wrong
ransom wrote:Pete240Z wrote: Apparently those little screws are SUPER CRITICAL because they keep the rotor centered. The guys behind the counter started to argue that they weren't, but gave up because it's just easier to let people who are married to their delusions have 'em.I don't know about Hondas, but my friend's Escort was very unhappy without them. The (Firestone) shop that did the work which involved removing them was adamant that they didn't matter, but the hub opening and lug holes allowed a fair bit of radial mis/dislocation; there was nothing to center the drum, and it made a bunch of racket 'til I sourced some replacement screws. Again, no idea on Hondas, but just 'cause they're only assembly line aides on some cars doesn't mean they're not important on others...
because they keep the rotor centered.... am I the only one that sees a disconnect here ?
Point is, they don't. The center hole in the rotor/drim fits snuggly around a shoulder on the hub.. Them the lug nuts secures every thing.
iceracer wrote: The center hole in the rotor/drum should fit snugly around a shoulder on the hub..
FTFY 
Wish I'd known about this positively at the time. I'd have at least run down to the store to compare a replacement with the drums on the car.
I suppose I'll never get used to brand new parts that don't fit or don't work, no matter how often it comes up... One doesn't expect non-wear portions of a simple device like a brake drum to be simply that far out of dimension.
(The drums on the car were probably replacements put on by the shop she'd been going to; it generally came back with one or two new problems).
I guess this is how a sane person could wind up convinced that those screws do something, since in this particular case, they did do something, even if that something should have been done by parts that weren't machined by drunken honey badgers.
My boss tried to argue with me the other day that peanuts don't have any fat. I said, "really? where do you think peanut oil comes from?"
He said, "yeah, but that's oil, not fat."
My mother-in-law doesn't believe me that peanuts grow underground.
She also refuses to believe that mushroom manure comes out of an animal.
The amount of stupid stuff I hear, especially from the some of the girls my wife works with (hairstylist, but the wife actually has a B.S in Business).....................it blows my mind.
I have absolutely no hope for the future. Thusly, no need to worry.
Trans_Maro wrote: My mother-in-law doesn't believe me that peanuts grow underground. She also refuses to believe that mushroom manure comes out of an animal.
so then, mushrooms poop?
In reply to fasted58:
If your mushrooms poop, then you've probably eaten too many :p
Mushrooms grow underground AND in manure. They should not be considered food.
pinchvalve wrote: Mushrooms grow underground AND in manure. They should not be considered food.
If by poop you mean a pasteurized compost then sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n99zZ4nbunE
Animal waste is used as a fertilizer for most crops. Even potatoes which also happen to grow underground.
wbjones wrote:ransom wrote:because they keep the rotor centered.... am I the only one that sees a disconnect here ?Pete240Z wrote: Apparently those little screws are SUPER CRITICAL because they keep the rotor centered.there was nothing to center the drum, and it made a bunch of racket 'til I sourced some replacement screws.
I have seen slip-on discs (so the hub and studs stay on the car) that also require the screws. Just saying...
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