Personal responsibility

One of my best friends wrote this several days ago. I believe that he is pretty much right on point with his obsevations and comments. He and I raised a little bit of hades with our teachers in 7th grade by reading The Gulag Archipeligo by Solzhenitzyn. If you have not read it I recommend that you do.

In another discussion here there was a quote about both ruling parties working together to stay in power and rob the country, this is pretty much how I see it as well. It is our responsibility to leave this land of ours a better place than it was when we arrived here.

The following is what my friend wrote. I have put it here with his permission, I have removed his name and E-mail address.

Let's just pretend that Rupert Murdoch sent you this email. He probably won't go to jail for illegal wire-tapping which, in Newspeak, is somehow called "phone-hacking".

When the Bolsheviks murdered at least 40 million people over at least four decades (not to mention their comrades in China who bested them with about 50 million—maybe a few less, who knows the exact figure?), every sapient observer learned to mistrust them and their many eager western helpers, and began to see through their various synthetic Hegelian political ruses, especially those done here in the USA with the help of the Mockingbird press. Even if it bothers a few folks, I will keep speaking out against communism; "communitarianism"; Agenda 21; &c; and the crafty, well-funded contemporary apparatchiks who propound those bankrupt ideas (Fox News, NPR, &c).

Thirty years ago a friend told me about his reading of Solzhenitsyn's book The Gulag Archipelago. If you have not read Solzhenitsyn's works yet, please do. It was a "wake up call" for me then and since. Read everything you can from this man who survived the worst of Soviet communism and lived to write about it cogently, thoroughly and presciently. I do not want to see the USA become the USSR but I see it coming on pretty hard over the last decades, mainly because grown men have spent many more hours eating cheetos, drinking diet-soda and watching NFL than studying the roots of their nation's tradition of speaking up for and fighting for liberty and good old-fashioned Liberalism, not the faux modern kind. Don't let the women off the hook either: they were watching Oprah and shopping and slacking, too. At least the women had their families in mind while they were shopping.

My only regret is that I have been so damnably chicken-hearted about this matter. I should have spoken up much more vehemently long ago. I knew better but didn't want to "offend anyone's sensibilities". Our government has been taken over by corrupt fascist communist malefactors. They can now—in accord with the NDAA of 2012 that we just let our congressional representatives pass into law—come and take you or me away, hold us for months or years, and even just kill us outright. Study and advocate for the Constitution and you may be suspected of being a "terrorist". Keep two weeks of food in your pantry—suspected terrorist. You are all on a list because you received emails from me since I have been shooting my mouth and pen off about liberty and the Constitution for many years now. You were probably on a list already anyhow only because you are real men. Basically, this situation is awful and any man who loves freedom has now to raise his voice against it or just reconcile with being a chump who puts up with some degree of slavery. I will not be a slave, nor will I be subject to any kind of tyranny, even the soft nice easy kind. No way.

I do not suggest we take up arms or harm anyone. I never have advocated any kind of violence or even main force, including violence with words. I do suggest we start raising our voices loudly, peaceably, reasonably and with forceful repetition. Please make your own holy ruckus in your own intelligent way. Call your Congress-critter, as I did yesterday: his phone-talker immediately admitted to straight-up Geneva Conventions crimes: it was truly astonishing to call my Congressman and have his secretary admit to treason and war crimes within one minute of polite speech. We hanged Japanese military officers for the war-crime of "water-boarding" our captured WWII soldiers, yet you can now call your congressman and his receptionist will quickly tell you she agrees with this same practice. Wow.

We have more power than we might know. I can attest that the congress-critters and their staffers are a bunch of lazy mentally-limited sissy-babies who would fit in nicely in Soviet Russia, but cannot hold a candle to the bright flame of true yankee liberty. They are the real chicken-hearted cowards. Until they learn what our Constitution is about, and what the spirit of real liberty is about, they can forever bow down and recite the communist manifesto as they kiss my FREE, LIBERTY-LOVING ASS.

Sorry if that hurt anyone's feelings.

TUEBOR!

I'm too drunk to read that. Seacrest, out!

Osterkraut wrote: I'm too drunk to read that. Seacrest, out!

Ok, that comment, combined with your new avatar made me laugh like an idiot :D

In reply to the OP:

Nothing to add besides, Amen to that.

Cliff's notes please......

DrBoost wrote: Cliff's notes please......

A pretty straight up "our government is going down the toilet, do something about it" commentary. Not noted specifically, but noted in Braden's pre-commentary, this is aimed at both "sides".

somewhere between the right and left.. lies a middle ground we all need to be in

DrBoost wrote: Cliff's notes please......

I think he is saying that Obama is building prison camps where Sarah Palin can see them from her back yard.

Drink heavily and read lots of postings on Free Republic and soon you will be saying the same thing.

Okay...

My question to the OP:

why were we asked to pretend Rupert Murdock, of all people, sent this "message"? Why not...oh, say, Newt Gingrich? Or....Barack Obama? My only guess, after a few seconds of thought, was that you (the OP) wanted some kind of "spin" put on this message. I would think this is the last thing Mr. Murdock would send anybody...but that is just me.

BTW, have you (the OP) noticed the "mass" uprisings in the USSR that have occurred since their last "elections"? Folks there believe, and in many cases have proof, that the latest round of elections was rigged to favor the ruling party. How many election cycles has the US had where the losing party "felt" the election was rigged? Thanks to the newer voting machines and new voting regulations that have been put in place, the evidence to dispute or prove voting fraud in the US has become harder to come by.

In 2000, 9 people "stole" the election by putting their own spin on the results (though, I have to admit, they were helped by Mr. Gore and his inept lawyers). In 2010, this same body of people wiped out most of the voting rights of the "common man (and woman)" by equating a corporation to a living person.

i find it ironic that the Republican Party led the charge to "root Communism" from the government of the US (via the McCarthy hearings and the subsequent "black lists") yet this same party is rushing forward to embrace what used to be called Communistic ideas.

The only difference between the USSR (of old) and the US of today, the government of the USSR did everything "for the good of the party"...what happened to individual people didn't matter and in the US? Well, it seems they aren't so different, are they?

If the far right and the far left get any further apart.. they are going to come around and meet on the other side..

I see and hear a lot of relevance in the original post. NDAA, SOPA, etc are all designed to infringe on our constitutional rights. A very dangerous foundation is being laid here people.

Those who think this is nothing to be concerned about or write it off as 'wacko' obviously aren't paying attention.

I applaud the OP's friend for speaking his mind, as he is currently constitutionally guaranteed the right to do.

I'll add that the 2nd amendment is likely in immediate peril as well. It has been challenged in the not to distant past in the Supreme Court and was upheld by 1 vote. 1 VOTE prevented one of our basic liberties from being stripped away.

Be informed, be vocal, or likely be sorry one day.

well.. that is a problem with both sides being considered "wack jobs" most people never see enough to realise where the issue really stands and what the answer is.

OK. You are tying together many unrelated occurances and making the hysterical claim that these combination of events are turning our country into some kind of clone of Stalinist Russia. And that we need to start endlessly complaining about it.

My only question. What are you SELLING?

mguar wrote: Fear increases emotions so extreme positions become acceptable.. By generating Fear moderates will lean towards extreme positions.

OK, I was not going to respond again. But since I have respect for the OP, and for his friend who penned the majority of the initial post, and because it's becoming readily apparent that some of you posters here prefer to live with your heads in the proverbial sand I'll offer this as one example of something to fear: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-the-new-white-house-rural-council-uns-agenda-21/

I'll be glad to cite many more examples if you care to read them,

Special interest influenced or not, bipartisan, republican, democrat or not, we have a problem. Our personal liberties are slowly being curtailed.

What if uncle fed decided that each of us don't need more than 1 car? In reality we don't 'NEED' more than 1 car each, but by God that's not up to the government!!!! Yet anyway.

Far from hurting my feelings, the OP's quoted rant leaves me wondering if the writer had any evidence that the country is headed downhill as fast as claimed. Personally, the thing to watch is if the Repub's get back in office and simply go on as if the Country Club had never been closed.

mthomson22 wrote: What if uncle fed decided that each of us don't need more than 1 car? In reality we don't 'NEED' more than 1 car each, but by God that's not up to the government!!!! Yet anyway.

'Uncle Fed' can't even keep us from smoking marijuana if we really want to. I can't wait to see how Santorum's ban on birth control works out.

Phone hacking is called phreaking. That is all I have to add.

I don't know what this thread is about but I am a little afraid of spiders. I find them difficult to negotiate with so I just kill them immediately. Problem solved.

DoctorBlade, to that I will offer these:

http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012#Legal_arguments_that_the_legislation_does_not_allow_the_indefinite_detention_of_US_citizens http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/03/29/obama-gets-civilian-army-in-healthcare-bill/

I'm not saying that republicans would be better than democrats either. Just that things seem to be heading the wrong way relative to the dictates in the Constitution.

Snowdoggie, Prisons are packed with non violent drug offenders http://crime.about.com/od/prison_families/a/famm040811.htm and if uncle fed wants to step it up then he certainly can

mthomson22 wrote: Snowdoggie, Prisons are packed with non violent drug offenders http://crime.about.com/od/prison_families/a/famm040811.htm and if uncle fed wants to step it up then he certainly can

sadly, the chances of seeing those silly mandatory laws turned over are Nil.. any politician who does it will be seen as being "soft on crime" and that is a real politcal sin

mthomson22 wrote: DoctorBlade, to that I will offer these: http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012#Legal_arguments_that_the_legislation_does_not_allow_the_indefinite_detention_of_US_citizens http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/03/29/obama-gets-civilian-army-in-healthcare-bill/ I'm not saying that republicans would be better than democrats either. Just that things seem to be heading the wrong way relative to the dictates in the Constitution. Snowdoggie, Prisons are packed with non violent drug offenders http://crime.about.com/od/prison_families/a/famm040811.htm and if uncle fed wants to step it up then he certainly can

...and that hasn't stopped illegal drug use, or even slowed it down. 'uncle fed' can't even keep drugs and people from flooding into the country from Mexico.

mthomson22 wrote: What if uncle fed decided that each of us don't need more than 1 car? In reality we don't 'NEED' more than 1 car each, but by God that's not up to the government!!!! Yet anyway.

What a great way to scare a board full of car enthusiasts. Tell them 'the government' is going to take away their cars.

Except for the fact that this same government subsidizes the auto industry and if anything they would pass a law forcing you to buy 2 cars and finance them through one of the banks they bailed out.

Snowdoggie wrote:

mthomson22 wrote: DoctorBlade, to that I will offer these: http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012#Legal_arguments_that_the_legislation_does_not_allow_the_indefinite_detention_of_US_citizens http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/03/29/obama-gets-civilian-army-in-healthcare-bill/ I'm not saying that republicans would be better than democrats either. Just that things seem to be heading the wrong way relative to the dictates in the Constitution. Snowdoggie, Prisons are packed with non violent drug offenders http://crime.about.com/od/prison_families/a/famm040811.htm and if uncle fed wants to step it up then he certainly can

...and that hasn't stopped illegal drug use, or even slowed it down. 'uncle fed' can't even keep drugs and people from flooding into the country from Mexico.

Some think uncle fed helps those drugs get across.

Dennis Miller called. He wants his $1 words back.

First, feel free to ignore this comment, and I mean no malice in stating this, but it reads like so much rhetoric that is spewed so often from so many places: the anti-rhetoric rhetoric. I say this knowing that I've written much the same thing going back 10 years, and I've noticed a trend of more and more of it, even spawning "new" movements like Tea Baggers and Ocupadoist-ists, which actually attempted to take the anti-rhetoric rhetoric and make it less rhetorical and in the process went so far that they've come back 'round the circle. The problem I see with every movement that has politics that they eventually become rhetorical, by nature and by necessity. Boring and honestly, bullE36 M3.

I dare anyone here to drop using rhetoric. I think what you'll find is that it's fairly difficult to interact, evaluate, negotiate, and communicate within any form of society. Non-rhetorical honesty and truth (not the same thing by any means) is both simple and difficult, though it should really only be simple. The difficulty comes from the fact that the rules of socialization establish an expectation of a certain level of camaraderie, and thus a shared rhetorical view. Can't go violating that without some sense of guilt and/or confrontation, neither of which many people genuinely enjoy.

My point is this: it's easy to wax poetic about this stuff in the exact same way that the stuff itself is defined and composed. The real goal should be a shedding of such constructions and expectations (like defining one's position by that of another) so that one's stance is both grounded and essential. But as I said, as long as politics are involved (i.e. the definition of and struggle for determination), such a position is likely impossible.

BTW, if any of this doesn't make sense, I blame my 101 degree fever.