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Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/11/21 2:50 p.m.

I'm helping a buddy sell his JEEP. Im texting back and forth with a guy. Seem serious. I get this this morning. 

The check part scares me. I'm going to call the number on the letter. From a different phone. If it's a fake, they won't recognize the number. If it is legit, would you trust it? I can understand not wanting to travel with a pile of cash. What about meeting at my bank on Monday and have them confirm it?

Cash only? Any way you'd trust a check?

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/11/21 2:52 p.m.

No

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/11/21 2:58 p.m.

Nope.   Cash 

Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter)
Snowdoggie (Forum Supporter) Dork
6/11/21 2:59 p.m.

What's wroing with cash?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
6/11/21 2:59 p.m.

Yeah... no. It would be easier for them to get a cashier's check from the bank than to get that letter.

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
Javelin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/11/21 3:00 p.m.

Nope. Real banks don't write letters like that, they issue a cashier's check.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones HalfDork
6/11/21 3:01 p.m.

Don't call the number on the letter, look up the number for the bank instead. It could be legit, but they can also do a wire/certified check instead of this letter if it is legit. Quick google shows she's a real employee. 
 

I have seen small banks write letters like that, but they usually have an amount and last 4 of the account number. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/11/21 3:01 p.m.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, too. At the least, a wire transfer.  I'll eat the $20-30 to make it happen. 

 

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/11/21 3:05 p.m.

Tell them you will be happy to meet them at Clinton National Bank and accept their cash. 
 

(assuming it is local enough)

Flynlow (FS)
Flynlow (FS) Dork
6/11/21 3:12 p.m.

Tough call.  On the one hand, there is still a % of the population trying to do business as if the internet doesn't exist.  People with good intentions, that are either unaware or stuck in their ways.  And the person signing the letter appears to be a real person at a real bank:

https://www.clintonnational.com/about/our-team

So I can appreciate someone putting in the effort in a legitimate deal.  That being said, the risk is too great.  I have been paid for cars 1 of 2 ways recently.  1.) We go to your bank together and I watch you withdraw cash and hand it to me, or 2.) we go to your bank and I watch you pull a cashiers check and hand it to me.  I much prefer method #1, but have used #2 when the $$ amounts are high and I don't want to drive across town with that much money on me. 

slefain
slefain PowerDork
6/11/21 3:17 p.m.

Tell them to cash the check themselves and bring you the money. And get a forgery check pen just in case.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/11/21 3:20 p.m.

Different state. 130 miles away. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/11/21 3:37 p.m.

I replied with this. I think it's fair. 

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
6/11/21 3:40 p.m.

You'd think the bank would know how to spell their customer's first name correctly.

(Although to be fair, if they put a typo in their system, it may be hard to get it out!)

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones HalfDork
6/11/21 3:47 p.m.
MadScientistMatt said:

You'd think the bank would know how to spell their customer's first name correctly.

(Although to be fair, if they put a typo in their system, it may be hard to get it out!)

Not a typo, just an odd spelling of the name. Quick google search shows she's a massage therapist. I bet she's tired of spelling her name to people..

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/11/21 4:23 p.m.

Yeah, in this day and age, I think it's totally fine to request cash or certified funds. 

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/11/21 5:01 p.m.

FYI be careful with cash. The last car I bought the seller called me a couple hours later from his ban(a different branch of my bank). One of the $100 bills I'd withdrawn that morning was counterfeit(unless the seller was trying to scam me, which I don't think he was). 
 

I was shocked to discover that I was simply out $100. The bank wouldn't reimburse me even though I withdrew it that morning from a different branch & still had the receipt to prove it. 
 

So regardless of whether you're paying in cash, or getting paid, I'd either meet at a bank & ask them to check all the bills, or just buy one of the pens & do it yourself. 

CJ (FS)
CJ (FS) GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/11/21 5:23 p.m.

In another life, I managed a bank branch. 

Besides what has been raised already, what screams out at me is that the loan officer didn't actually sign this 'Line of Credit'.  Seriously?  If I wrote a letter to support a customer I *never* would have stamped / printed my signature.  Besides that, it would take me about 10 minutes to duplicate this letter for almost any bank you could name.

Wire transfer or cashiers check all the way.  Even if this is real, what recourse do you actually have against this 'loan officer' if the check bounces?  If the buyer's personal banker really wants to support her customer, all she has to do is waive the wire transfer fee.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/11/21 5:37 p.m.

That letter is not even signed by a real person.  That is the script font in MS word.  I could make you a letter better than that is 5 min.

OK here you go.

 

  

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/11/21 5:46 p.m.

I timed it.  It took me 5 min to make that letter.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
6/11/21 6:13 p.m.

The letter is a scam.  No one with a bank title of Loan Officer is getting involved with a $3,400 transaction 

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones HalfDork
6/11/21 6:32 p.m.
John Welsh said:

The letter is a scam.  No one with a bank title of Loan Officer is getting involved with a $3,400 transaction 

Agreed, when originally posted, I thought it was for a more expensive car and there was a chance it was a small bank. At $3400? Not legit. 

Flynlow (FS)
Flynlow (FS) Dork
6/11/21 7:15 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:
John Welsh said:

The letter is a scam.  No one with a bank title of Loan Officer is getting involved with a $3,400 transaction 

Agreed, when originally posted, I thought it was for a more expensive car and there was a chance it was a small bank. At $3400? Not legit. 

+1.  $3400 is cash in hand money.  With a counterfeit pen to check, as was mentioned above. 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
6/11/21 7:47 p.m.

Wait, it's only $3400?!?! 

Block the number and move on. Even if it's not a scam (it is), then the potential buyer is incompetent/shady enough that you won't be able to complete the transaction anyway.

There were one or two possible explanations for this sort of thing if it was $34,000. There are zero for $3400. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
6/11/21 9:11 p.m.

Texted the reply I said I would. Nothing replied back. Well see, but I ain't holding my breath.

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