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vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/18/12 7:04 p.m.
Ian F
Ian F SuperDork
1/18/12 7:05 p.m.

repost.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/bloodmasters/44411/page1/

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/18/12 7:06 p.m.

Why is every single car in that video beat to absolute E36M3? I mean, really, when did looking like an import reject of a short track or demo derby become a legitimate "look"?

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
1/18/12 7:07 p.m.

When we allowed poor people to start having fun?

Ian F
Ian F SuperDork
1/18/12 7:08 p.m.

Probably because when so many cars are so close together while on the edge of control, contact is inevitable no matter how skilled the drivers.

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/18/12 7:10 p.m.

Sorry for the re-post. I'm never sure how to look up something that may have been done already. Guess I coulda searched bloodmasters, huh?

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/18/12 7:24 p.m.

Must have missed it the first time.

They sure don't mind beating the crap out of their cars. Several of those stunts could have ended up spectacularly badly.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
1/18/12 7:26 p.m.

I doubt seriously a single person in that video is what anyone would recognize as "poor". They've got the resources to put that together. No matter how corny it looks.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/18/12 7:35 p.m.
Ian F wrote: Probably because when so many cars are so close together while on the edge of control, contact is inevitable no matter how skilled the drivers.

Never watched short-track dirt oval racing, have you? Sprint cars? Modifieds? Hell, hornet racing? That's a lame excuse. Contact is a direct result of running out of skill. Showing off your contact is proclaiming how un-skilled you are.

NickF40
NickF40 GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/18/12 7:42 p.m.

Apparently the majority of you don't really follow drifting lol that was the whole point of the video and all these guys are pro's or pro/am's. The cars were built on cheap

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
1/18/12 8:12 p.m.

Raceway Park is in Englishtown, NJ. I'm a little curious how they got into a privately owned facility for this. Just wondering...

Ian F
Ian F SuperDork
1/18/12 9:50 p.m.
Javelin wrote:
Ian F wrote: Probably because when so many cars are so close together while on the edge of control, contact is inevitable no matter how skilled the drivers.
Never watched short-track dirt oval racing, have you? Sprint cars? Modifieds? Hell, hornet racing? That's a *lame* excuse. Contact is a direct result of running out of skill. Showing off your contact is proclaiming how un-skilled you are.

Of course I have. But that's different. That's racing. Everyone going the same direction, at roughly the same speed, in more or less equal cars. This is more akin to a dance. "You think that's close? Get closer... no... closer... closer... oops. Too close." I seriously doubt they got the choreography right on the first take.

Plus, I get the impression these guys are trying to emulate the amateur levels of drifting where the competitors don't have a lot of money to fix their cars when they get it wrong and tap the wall. The result is bodywork cobbled back together with zip ties. Get the car back together just enough to make the next round... or next event.

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
1/18/12 10:01 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Why is every single car in that video beat to absolute E36M3? I mean, really, when did looking like an import reject of a short track or demo derby become a legitimate "look"?

It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
1/18/12 11:19 p.m.
Osterkraut wrote: It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito.

Huh. It is also how my race car looks just from my best effort to build a race car. Love it. It isn't that I don't have any bodywork skills - it is just that I'm "authentic"!

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
1/19/12 12:41 a.m.
Javelin wrote: Why is every single car in that video beat to absolute E36M3? I mean, really, when did looking like an import reject of a short track or demo derby become a legitimate "look"?

would you do this kind of stuff with a car that looks good?

NickF40
NickF40 GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/19/12 1:05 a.m.

yeah^

Ian, thank you for summing that up the thing people need to realize is the whole point they made that film is show what drifting is like when you take away the sponsors, high dollar purpose built LS swapped rides, scores and all that, to show it's about having fun with it no matter how "E36 M3ty" your car is. That video shows the exact reason why I got into drifting when I was little

and as far as getting into ETown, part of it is in association with Club Loose which hosts events there, the big one being the East Coast Bash so they were able to do this video with the hookups the East Coast Bash is an event everyone needs to go to

Luke
Luke SuperDork
1/19/12 1:14 a.m.
Ian F wrote: Plus, I get the impression these guys are trying to emulate the amateur levels of drifting where the competitors don't have a lot of money to fix their cars when they get it wrong and tap the wall. The result is bodywork cobbled back together with zip ties. Get the car back together just enough to make the next round... or next event.

I think this Corolla is the epitome of that look.

Gotta admit, there's just something about that beaten-up aesthetic that really appeals to me.

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
1/19/12 1:26 a.m.
Javelin wrote: Contact is a direct result of running out of skill. Showing off your contact is proclaiming how un-skilled you are.

Never been to a demo derby have you?

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
1/19/12 2:15 a.m.
Appleseed wrote:
Javelin wrote: Contact is a direct result of running out of skill. Showing off your contact is proclaiming how un-skilled you are.
Never been to a demo derby have you?

or the night race at Bristol..

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/19/12 7:43 a.m.
Osterkraut wrote:
Javelin wrote: Why is every single car in that video beat to absolute E36M3? I mean, really, when did looking like an import reject of a short track or demo derby become a legitimate "look"?
It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito.

That's not really it at all...

When the entire point of the competition is to see how close you can get to the apex or the wall while rolling tire with the car pointed sideways.... contact happens.

It's a bit.... silly to bother with trying to keep the car looking pristine.

I've done bodywork on a drift car. It was fun.

Drill a hole in the crushed panel. Attach a come-along. Attach other end of come-along to a telephone pole. Get a big hammer.

Hammer away until taillight will stay put in the panel. Consider done.

You all can feel free to competitively drift a perfect looking car all you want. When i start, i'm not going to worry about any such things.

sobe_death
sobe_death Reader
1/19/12 8:40 a.m.

They call them "Drift Missiles". The whole point is to get a E36 M3 car straight off, build it for less than $1k, and have fun. Sometimes, if the person has a brain, they will splurge for a cage. That way, when you wreck it/flip it/smash your buddies Missile, nobody really cares. Tires are typically of the used/free variety, so the Missile remains cheap. When it blows up/ can't drive anymore, you recoup the investment in scrap money.

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
1/19/12 8:42 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Osterkraut wrote:
Javelin wrote: Why is every single car in that video beat to absolute E36M3? I mean, really, when did looking like an import reject of a short track or demo derby become a legitimate "look"?
It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito.
That's not really it at all... When the entire point of the competition is to see how close you can get to the apex or the wall while rolling tire with the car pointed sideways.... contact happens. It's a bit.... silly to bother with trying to keep the car looking pristine. I've done bodywork on a drift car. It was fun. Drill a hole in the crushed panel. Attach a come-along. Attach other end of come-along to a telephone pole. Get a big hammer. Hammer away until taillight will stay put in the panel. Consider done. You all can feel free to competitively drift a perfect looking car all you want. When i start, i'm not going to worry about any such things.

It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito.

My point stands.

I don't get why drifters don't put more effort into having a good looking car. I mean ice skating, it's philosophical cousin, requires loads of makeup and shiny tights, not torn sweatpants and visible bruises

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/19/12 8:59 a.m.
Osterkraut wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Osterkraut wrote:
Javelin wrote: Why is every single car in that video beat to absolute E36M3? I mean, really, when did looking like an import reject of a short track or demo derby become a legitimate "look"?
It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito.
That's not really it at all... When the entire point of the competition is to see how close you can get to the apex or the wall while rolling tire with the car pointed sideways.... contact happens. It's a bit.... silly to bother with trying to keep the car looking pristine. I've done bodywork on a drift car. It was fun. Drill a hole in the crushed panel. Attach a come-along. Attach other end of come-along to a telephone pole. Get a big hammer. Hammer away until taillight will stay put in the panel. Consider done. You all can feel free to competitively drift a perfect looking car all you want. When i start, i'm not going to worry about any such things.
It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito. My point stands. I don't get why drifters don't put more effort into having a good looking car. I mean ice skating, it's philosophical cousin, requires loads of makeup and shiny tights, not torn sweatpants and visible bruises

It's not a fad. Point does not stand. Not many of these guys LIKE having their cars look like E36 M3.

If you're worried about fixing your bodywork to "pretty" status every time you hit something, you're missing events. Lots and lots of events.

I could hit an event every weekend through the warm months within easy driving distance here.

I can't repair a crushed quarterpanel and have it look good in a week or less.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
1/19/12 9:18 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Osterkraut wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Osterkraut wrote:
Javelin wrote: Why is every single car in that video beat to absolute E36M3? I mean, really, when did looking like an import reject of a short track or demo derby become a legitimate "look"?
It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito.
That's not really it at all... When the entire point of the competition is to see how close you can get to the apex or the wall while rolling tire with the car pointed sideways.... contact happens. It's a bit.... silly to bother with trying to keep the car looking pristine. I've done bodywork on a drift car. It was fun. Drill a hole in the crushed panel. Attach a come-along. Attach other end of come-along to a telephone pole. Get a big hammer. Hammer away until taillight will stay put in the panel. Consider done. You all can feel free to competitively drift a perfect looking car all you want. When i start, i'm not going to worry about any such things.
It's a fad among drifters to have a E36 M3ty, held-together-by-zipties look, to prove you DGAF about offs you've earned while being driftorito. My point stands. I don't get why drifters don't put more effort into having a good looking car. I mean ice skating, it's philosophical cousin, requires loads of makeup and shiny tights, not torn sweatpants and visible bruises
It's not a fad. Point does not stand. Not many of these guys LIKE having their cars look like E36 M3. If you're worried about fixing your bodywork to "pretty" status every time you hit something, you're missing events. Lots and lots of events. I could hit an event every weekend through the warm months within easy driving distance here. I can't repair a crushed quarterpanel and have it look good in a week or less.

It's a fad on street cars. A lot of the contact in the video was deliberate, and there are plenty of negative things I can say about it as a whole. I'm going to have to agree that cars whose purposes have been nothing but drifting, great body work is going to be impossible to maintain.

I kind of hope drifting itself turns out to be a fad though.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
1/19/12 9:19 a.m.

I'm somewhat doubting these guys are daily driving these cars.

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