If cows eat grass, and I eat cows, then I am on a plant-based diet.
If cows eat grass, and I eat cows, then I am on a plant-based diet.
In reply to Recon1342 :
This is actually a really good justification for a non vegetarian diet: Cows and sheep and goats and stuff can eat grass and other stuff that humans can't, so non-arable land can be still be used to feed people.
'Course, that falls apart when we pump cows full of corn because it makes them grow bigger faster, and have to put plastic pot scrubbers in their stomachs and pump them full of antibiotics so that they can survive on such an awful diet. We're feeding livestock people food because it's cheaper, so in that sense it does make more sense to go vegetarian.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Not for me. I am an obligate carnivore...
all joking aside, even when I was running long distance competitively, I needed to maintain a pretty high protein:carb ratio. One of the curses of being skinny, I suppose.
In reply to Recon1342 :
I used to bike a lot. A lot a lot. More hours in the saddle than at school. I was 6'4 and 175lb and could NOT swim because I was as bouyant as a rock. I ate lots and lots and LOTS of carbs and sugar, like 3lb of spaghetti as an after work snack before I went and had dinner kind of carbs, and 1800 calories worth of sweet tea per day kind of sugar.
I can already feel the ire of every other person in the world as I describe that kind of metabolism. Don't worry, I ain't 17 anymore. Once I hit about 38, it started to implode.
When I was about 23, I developed hyper thyroidism. I walked around in the winter in a t shirt,my wife was kept awake by my heartbeat pounding the bed, my heart rate was over 90 beats per minute asleep, and it is the only time since I hit six feet when I was 12 that I weighed anything that wasn't considered obese on the BMI. 6' 2" 175 pounds, and you could see every bone I own.
All you skinny guys can go eat liquid death...
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
That reminds me of the other "look Pete's being an shiny happy person again" thing. In high school gym class, we were taking our resting heart rates for some official state health thingy. I recorded mine at 40. The teacher didn't believe it, so she came over and checked it herself. It was actually 37.
It's 65 now, and I feel horrible about that, even though that's not horrible for someone of... not a teenager age. And I don't black out from standing up anymore, so, hey, progress I guess.
My Mom, Grandma, and myself all confessed to each other, that we think turkey tastes awful. It's our least favorite part of the holiday meal. Thanksgiving will be different this year.
In reply to Appleseed :
My family agreed long ago that turkey is kind of a crappy thing to eat, and roasting an entire turkey is a giant pain in the ass, which is why we do it no more than once per year.
Like most aired truths, this is actually pretty liberating, and we're not doing a turkey this year as a result.
DEFINITELY going to have acres of White Castle stuffing, though. That stuff is crack on a plate. (If you've never heard of it, it's exactly what it sounds like. You go to White Castle, and after battling Harold, Kumar, and The NPH, you order a large amount of sliders. Take them home, mash 'em up, add a couple other things like celery and chicken stock, that is your stuffing mix. It has the main food groups of meat, onion, bread, and grease. SOOOO GOOD)
I love turkey, but if it gets dry then it's worse than chicken.
I love stuffing too.
I don't really get too excited for ham. It can be good but it's often too fatty and chewy.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
That reminds me of the other "look Pete's being an shiny happy person again" thing. In high school gym class, we were taking our resting heart rates for some official state health thingy. I recorded mine at 40. The teacher didn't believe it, so she came over and checked it herself. It was actually 37.
It's 65 now, and I feel horrible about that, even though that's not horrible for someone of... not a teenager age. And I don't black out from standing up anymore, so, hey, progress I guess.
I went on blood pressure medication about six years ago. My body has gotten used to it now, but getting my blood pressure down to the high end of normal really had me being careful about standing up too quickly.
My resting heart rate has never been under about 70.
I don't anticipate seeing 90 years old. 80 is probably a stretch.
And turkey is delicious if you buy a fresh (not frozen) smaller, younger bird and don't cook it to death. And gravy...
Appleseed said:My Mom, Grandma, and myself all confessed to each other, that we think turkey tastes awful. It's our least favorite part of the holiday meal. Thanksgiving will be different this year.
I told my wife that last year and she suggested we smoke it. I reluctantly tried it and man, game-changer. Not my favorite meat out of the smoker but really really good.
A very random thought.
The best line in the history of movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7xvi6GL9Fk
Second best is Rita Wilson in "That Thing you Do" when she says, "Aww, you're no good to me now."
Turkey can be really, really good. But it involves a lot of work, a lot of salt in advance, butter, and precise temperature controls. Worth it for a large gathering. Not if it’s small.
We are doing chicken this year with the Salt/Acid/Heat/Fat recipe I posted Here.
My 11 year old saw Spatchcocking online, and while i was a bit concerned when he asked me if I knew what it was, we will be trying that this year:
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
I'm 37 and still have that metabolism. Proteins help iron out the spikes from carbs...
Also, when I was in pre-op last month waiting for surgery, I got bored and began a meditation routine. When the anesthesiologist came in to talk to me, he looked askance at the monitor- my heart rate was 49.
No Time said:My 11 year old saw Spatchcocking online, and while i was a bit concerned when he asked me if I knew what it was, we will be trying that this year:
Spatchcock a chicken. (there's no meat on the backbone anyway). Lay it on a bed of white onion slices and lemon slices. Season it with rosemary, thyme S&P. Onion & lemon slices on top also. Add 1 cup white wine, cover and bake. OMG GOOD!!
In reply to No Time :
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/spatchcock/49083/page1/
In reply to Duke :
Apparently I missed that, or forgot about it.
It's a good year to experiment, since it will just be my household here on Thursday.
Ugh!! I haven't heard from her all day. This is the first time since august. My mind is running to every possible bad scenario.
Appleseed said:My Mom, Grandma, and myself all confessed to each other, that we think turkey tastes awful. It's our least favorite part of the holiday meal. Thanksgiving will be different this year.
Maybe not awful, but certainly not the best part of the meal or really worth the fuss. We usually do a half ham and a small turkey breast. Really all we want is the sides anyway.
This year I'm making Turkey Tourtiere, which I found on a whim on a google search. Pie crust filled with ground turkey, potato, celery, onion. With any luck we'll have four pies and sides.
She checked in, had a bad day but is ok. I can relax now. One day I'm going to have a normal life.
Rut row, this can’t be good being 2020 and all...
In reply to Wally (Forum Supporter) :
Berk that. Be God's own prototype. Never considered for mass production.
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:She checked in, had a bad day but is ok. I can relax now. One day I'm going to have a normal life.
SWMBO is bad days punctuated by happy times. That's cool, because we also understand each other, and that is something rare in this world and something to be treasured.
It's also a huge ego boost to realize that the happy times are largely when we're able to be together.
I found a new lockdown hobby: farting into the air purifier. It makes it go a bit crazy for a while.
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