R.I.P. Ryan Dunn

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

Javelin wrote: Flying an airplane is living. Going snorkeling on a reef is living. Driving in a race is living. Teaching your kid to wrench is living.

It just goes to show... one man's wild blue yonder is another man's 24th scale dream car parked in his colon.

Hot Wheels are 1/64th. 1/24th is a Revell model. I imagine that would not fit and or involve some sort of porno-person that I wouldn't like to see.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: It just goes to show... one man's wild blue yonder is another man's 24th scale dream car parked in his colon.

Magazine worthy right here

Javelin wrote: Hot Wheels are 1/64th. 1/24th is a Revell model. I imagine that would not fit and or involve some sort of porno-person that I wouldn't like to see.

You have to work your way up to that... Matchbox, Lionel trains... then Revell models. Nothing worth doing is ever easy.

I'm glad I never watched any of the jackass movies that encouraged and enabled this dude to kill himself in such a fashion. I guess if his demise ends the Jackass franchise maybe his fans can go find a jumper to coax to leap to their death from the top of a building. About the same level of humor IMHO. I guess about all I can say about the guy at this point was that at least he was not faking it and lived his real life in a similar way to what he portrayed in the movies. Glad he didn't take out any innocent people.

I know this sounds harsh, but Dunn may actually be "lucky" that he didn't survive.

I know someone who did time for involuntary manslaughter when they lost control while speeding. The combination of guilt and the experience of living in jail can be really hard to live with.

...and if any of you wonder, THAT is why I drive slow on the street. [I drive slow when I autocross because I have a slow car and a lack of skill.]

(rant)

My whole problem with this is because I think the man's occupation is making us discuss stuff that makes this conversation more complicated than it really needs to be. I'll admit..I hated "Jackass". I thought it was tastless and stupid. One step closer to the "Oh My Balls!" show in "Idiocracy".

That being said..to me this is no different than that stupid hockey player that killed his team-mate riding in his Ferrari here in Atlanta, or any other "celebrity" with more money than brains killing themselves in a sports car during the last 40 years (how many of these clowns killed themselves in Porsche 930s back when those cars were new?). To me, it's got nothing to do with how the guy got famous..but everything to do with the fact that people who are not enthusiasts think that the car does all the berkeleying work. There are still people out there who don't know that driving a car at its limits requires instruction, requires practice, and requires RESPECT for the forces of nature that you've decided to poke with a sharp stick.

Again, it's just my opinion..but this kind of stuff will continue to happen (and give our enemies ammo against the enthusiast community) as long as we fail to spread the word that driving fast is damn hard work..with seriously severe consequences if you berkeley it up. Can we do it? I dunno. Should we try? Hell, yeah.

(/rant)

JoeyM wrote: I know this sounds harsh, but Dunn may actually be "lucky" that he didn't survive. I know someone who did time for involuntary manslaughter when they lost control while speeding. The combination of guilt and the experience of living in jail can be really hard to live with. ...and if any of you wonder, THAT is why I drive slow on the street. [I drive slow when I autocross because I have a slow car and a lack of skill.]

He would certainly have fewer supporters had he survived. I imagine the tone of this entire thread would be different. Few people would accuse a living drunk driver of really "living."

^ +1

...and if someone wants to define "living" as "pushing a fast car to its limit" - not a bad definition, BTW - they should bear in mind that he had plenty of money to do all the track days he wanted. On a track you can keep your foot in it longer, not worry about oncoming traffic, and know that the on-site ambulance will get you to a hospital in a hurry if you ball the car up.

friedgreencorrado wrote: (rant) My whole problem with this is because I think the man's occupation is making us discuss stuff that makes this conversation more complicated than it really needs to be. I'll admit..I hated "Jackass". I thought it was tastless and stupid. One step closer to the "Oh My Balls!" show in "Idiocracy". That being said..to me this is no different than that stupid hockey player that killed his team-mate riding in his Ferrari here in Atlanta, or any other "celebrity" with more money than brains killing themselves in a sports car during the last 40 years (how many of these clowns killed themselves in Porsche 930s back when those cars were new?). To me, it's got nothing to do with *how* the guy got famous..but everything to do with the fact that people who are not enthusiasts think that the car does all the berkeleying work. There are still people out there who don't know that driving a car at its limits requires instruction, requires practice, and requires *RESPECT* for the forces of nature that you've decided to poke with a sharp stick. Again, it's just my opinion..but this kind of stuff will continue to happen (and give our enemies ammo against the enthusiast community) as long as *we* fail to spread the word that driving fast is damn hard work..with seriously severe consequences if you berkeley it up. Can we do it? I dunno. Should we try? Hell, yeah. (/rant)

I agree but will throw this out there. He was an SCCA member and even featured in SportsCar Magazine back around 2004-05 IIRC. I believe he was an autocrosser.

mapper wrote: He was an SCCA member [...] I believe he was an autocrosser.

Then he knew better, and was aware of the local track opportunities.

mapper wrote: I agree but will throw this out there. He was an SCCA member and even featured in SportsCar Magazine back around 2004-05 IIRC. I believe he was an autocrosser.

Makes it even worse

I have never laughed as hard as when I used to watch Jackass on MTV. Yes, it's sophomoric, immature, juvenile, pointless...but oh so funny. Just like me I suppose. RIP Ryan, it's sad to loose anyone truly entertaining, especially so senselessly.

I sincerely apologize for the reactionary tone of that first post. I just really hate it when people take on that "What a dumb-ass. He got what he deserved" mentality in cases like this. As far as we know, the guy wasn't a child-molester or a serial killer or bank robber, and having a group of friends as tight as the jackass guys are, I know that those dudes sincerely loved that guy to a degree that not even most families are capable of, and I know reading people's negative reactions to his death would truly hurt and infuriate them.

Again, all that said, I'm not condoning driving buzzed/drunk @ double the speed limit, especially with a passenger in the car. I'm guessing said passenger's family is going to have a hard time forgiving and forgetting.

As far as Jackass goes, I guess I'm part of the Idiocracy pool. There are few segments I didn't find funny. The earlier stuff was genius IMO. I want to be a kid forever; a kid with a nice house, lots of toys, and a killer credit score, but a kid nonetheless. Those guys did it and made money at it.

In all honesty, I would probably be "Ow, My Balls!" biggest fan.

Mapper, I gotta hang with JoeyM & mtn here..if the guy was a member of a club that actually helps people find a way to rock out off the street..knowing that he didn't take advantage of it kind of makes me angry, and gives me a reason to actually hate the guy. It's one thing for a complete idiot to disrespect what it takes to drive fast..it's quite another to see someone who should have known better earn his Darwin Award.

Sorry, dude..but that's how I think.

poopshovel wrote: In all honesty, I would probably be "Ow, My Balls!" biggest fan.

Don't sweat it, poop. The locals know that you're a Yankee, and live on that kind of E36 M3. We love you anyway. See ya at Mitty 2012, dude.

DUI and excessive speed on public roads can get ya dead, don't matter who ya are

you're a Yankee

You shut your filthy whore mouth!

poopshovel wrote: I sincerely apologize for the reactionary tone of that first post. I just really hate it when people take on that "What a dumb-ass. He got what he deserved" mentality in cases like this. As far as we know, the guy wasn't a child-molester or a serial killer or bank robber, and having a group of friends as tight as the jackass guys are, I know that those dudes sincerely loved that guy to a degree that not even most families are capable of, and I know reading people's negative reactions to his death would truly hurt and infuriate them. Again, all that said, I'm not condoning driving buzzed/drunk @ double the speed limit, especially with a passenger in the car. I'm guessing said passenger's family is going to have a hard time forgiving and forgetting. As far as Jackass goes, I guess I'm part of the Idiocracy pool. There are few segments I didn't find funny. The earlier stuff was genius IMO. I want to be a kid forever; a kid with a nice house, lots of toys, and a killer credit score, but a kid nonetheless. Those guys did it and made money at it. In all honesty, I would probably be "Ow, My Balls!" biggest fan.

+10000 to late of that. I will admit I have maxed out a car a couple cars in my earlier days (of coarse a Civic not really on par with a GT3)

I don't know exactly if people are referring to the dumb driving as 'living' but regardless of how you feel about this guy, he had a chance to travel the world, and do things some of us will never get a chance to do. This doesn't just include the stupid things that none of us would want to do like shoving a hot wheels in our rears, but the other stuff he got to do along the way.

friedgreencorrado wrote: Mapper, I gotta hang with JoeyM & mtn here..if the guy was a member of a club that actually *helps* people find a way to rock out *off* the street..knowing that he didn't take advantage of it kind of makes me angry, and gives me a reason to actually hate the guy. It's one thing for a complete idiot to disrespect what it takes to drive fast..it's quite another to see someone who should have known better earn his Darwin Award. Sorry, dude..but that's how I think.

No arguments from me. I was not defending him but my post was a little ambiguous. I was really commenting on "dumb ass with money and no skills" versus "dumb ass with money and probably had skills". He's dead due to stupidity either way.

poopshovel wrote:

you're a Yankee

You shut your filthy whore mouth!

Yessir! Beer at the Mitty repair it? Six beers at the Mitty repair it? You coming to Petit? My flagging buddies damn near have me talked into it.

flountown wrote: regardless of how you feel about this guy, he had a chance to travel the world, and do things some of us will never get a chance to do. This doesn't just include the stupid things that none of us would want to do like shoving a hot wheels in our rears, but the other stuff he got to do along the way.

It's the stupid E36 M3 he did that LET him travel the world.

That's the thing I can't stand. People that get rich and famous for no other reason than their own stupid behaviour when folks who make a real contribution to this world get to go unnoticed.

Shawn

Vince Neil from Motley Crue, proudly sporting a .17BAC handily dispatched Razzle, the drummer from Hanoi Rocks while demolishing a DeTomaso Pantera. He also nearly killed the occupants of the VW with which he collided.

Ted Kennedy had some sort of misadventure involving a VW, a bridge and a young female passenger.

Both occupants in Ryan Dunn's Porsche exhibited poor judgement by getting in the car. It's criminally negligent to drive when impaired - but's it's only bad to ride with drunks (when you're drunk as well) if you get hurt or killed.

I am pretty sure Ted Kennedy's car wasn't a VW,but rather a large piece of domestic iron.

Ted was driving, IIRC, an Oldsmobile. Assuming there really is an afterlife: wonder what he said to Mary Jo after he croaked? Original VW 'floating Bug' ad: National Lampoon's famous parody ad: