Rock and Roll peaked in 1976

The further you look back, the more biased your sample is. because as time passes we forget more and more of the crappy bands, we only remember the remarkable and time becomes more compressed. This is a big reason why it seems like music was so much better in the past.

Jazz is the exception, it took a nose dive in the 70's and never recovered. But that's just my taste.

but just for fun let me list off some post 76 stuff of my head that was great and hasn't been mentioned yet:

Patti Smith: Easter /

No one knew who Ian Mackaye was in 1976 /

Neutral Milk Hotel: Airplane Over the Sea (Holy E36 M3 ) /

Built to Spill

\ Pavement

\ Modest Mouse: Lonsome Crowded West

\ Sleater Kinney: One Beat, All Hands on the Bad One

\ TV on the Radio

\ Broken Social Scene: You Forgot it in People

\ The afformentioned early grunge and Radio Head

I can't even count how many bands I've heard that are heavily influenced by some combo of Built to Spill and Modest Mouse and that's even before most knew who Modes Mouse was. I think there is alot of music that has come out in just the last 20 years that will stand the test of time. And there is so much more music that is accessible to us now with the internet, it's easier for bands to get heard.

seann wrote: The further you look back, the more biased your sample is. because as time passes we forget more and more of the crappy bands, we only remember the remarkable and time becomes more compressed. This is a big reason why it seems like music was so much better in the past. Jazz is the exception, it took a nose dive in the 70's and never recovered. But that's just my taste. but just for fun let me list off some post 76 stuff of my head that was great and hasn't been mentioned yet: Patti Smith: Easter / No one knew who Ian Mackaye was in 1976 / Neutral Milk Hotel: Airplane Over the Sea (Holy E36 M3 ) / Built to Spill \ Pavement \ Modest Mouse: Lonsome Crowded West \ Sleater Kinney: One Beat, All Hands on the Bad One \ TV on the Radio \ Broken Social Scene: You Forgot it in People \ The afformentioned early grunge and Radio Head I can't even count how many bands I've heard that are heavily influenced by some combo of Built to Spill and Modest Mouse and that's even before most knew who Modes Mouse was. I think there is alot of music that has come out in just the last 20 years that will stand the test of time. And there is so much more music that is accessible to us now with the internet, it's easier for bands to get heard.

+1

Rock was at it's greatest from the mid 80's to the middle/late 90's . I definitely grew up too late and missed almost all of it.

Built to Spill (and Treepeople which predates BtS)

Modest Mouse (before 'Good News..')

Afghan Whigs

Jawbox

Jawbreaker

Dinosaur Jr

Mission of Burma

Fugazi

Husker Du

Pavement

Guided By Voices

etc

Alternative rock is now all but dead with all this dancibility quiet crap.

Lyrically, MM and Jawbreaker are the two BEST. If you're into beat poetry and Bukowski you'll like them both.

The greatest artist to come out of the 70's is Tom Waits

Monkeywrench wrote: The greatest artist to come out of the 70's is Tom Waits

And Tom Waits has put out some pretty amazing stuff recently, Mule Variations.

And have you heard the stuff that Ian Mackaye has done lately? The Evans, I really like it! it's minimilist reminds me of Young marble Giants. But not a new sound I guess.

Yeah I really like the 90's stuff, I'm sort of rediscovering it right now, but I'm very excited about some things coming out now as well. Grizzly Bear, The Liars, Dirty Projectors, Menomena.

I'll also add that some of my favorite music from the seventys came out of Nigeria. And Ethiopia, check out the very best of ethiopiques compilation.

MGAMGB wrote: ...This thread has the stink of old man... I barely know who Jimmy Page is and I really don't care why he left Rush to form Pink Floyd with Pete Townshend and Bob Seger. Viagra, Harleys, and 70s Rock music - I see no difference...

I am soooo using that next time my Dad starts up with the new music is crap discussion.

Oh and vinyl still sounds like scratchy garbage, CDs rule, and MP3s are the 2nd coming

seann wrote: Jazz is the exception, it took a nose dive in the 70's and never recovered. But that's just my taste.

There is some great modern jazz out there such as Christian McBride, Joshua Redman, Roy Hargrove, Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, Charlie Hunter, etc. It's still out there..

I got the Social D skeleton tatooed on my arm in 1987.

Mental wrote: Oh and vinyl still sounds like scratchy garbage, CDs rule, and MP3s are the 2nd coming

1) Agreed.

2) Agreed.

3) Not if you give a E36 M3 about fidelity at all.

seann wrote:

Monkeywrench wrote: The greatest artist to come out of the 70's is Tom Waits

And Tom Waits has put out some pretty amazing stuff recently, Mule Variations.

Agreed. The man is a genuine musical genius. I wasn't including him in these lists, because I don't think he really qualifies as "Rock". I wouldn't qualify him as anything, his music defies genre.

First time I ever sat down and listened to one of his albums ("Rain Dogs"), every new song had me going "Holy E36 M3!"

On that note. I've had "Diamonds and Gold" stuck in my head for weeks.

I really like Modest Mouse and Radiohead. 'Creep' is a great song. The White Stripes started out good, but everything they do sounds the same. I prefer some variation between tunes.

Jane's Addiction and Candlebox both will get yer motor runnin'. I used to fire up one of those two whenever I was getting pscyhed up for a hare scramble etc.

I gotta check out that Tom Waits.

Jensenman wrote: I gotta check out that Tom Waits.

Here are a couple of my favorite songs of his. (Ignore the video on the first two, since they're fan done videos; The last one is a live performance):

Clap Hands

Diamonds and Gold

Tango 'Till They're Sore

Edit: Musical Trivia, a Tom Waits' song was used in the soundtrack for a (ostensibly) children's film. Kudos to the person who can name the song and the film. The film is one you have all heard of, and a good chance that you saw.

"Drop of Poison" is on the Shrek soundtrack, or maybe Shrek 2.

Yup. Not a tough one.

"Drop of Poison", in Shrek 2.

The song was being played by Captain Hook in the bar scene. They only played the first two lines in the movie. I think the line "I smoke my friends down to the filter" would have just been a bit too much, even for that film.

My band occasionally covers "Tango 'Till They're Sore".

That's nothing. The first one used Joan Jett's "Bad Reputation", complete with "I don't give a damn about my bad reputation"

100 points to anyone who knows who was backing her on that song.

It was Joan Jett and the Balckhearts. Or were you looking for something more esoteric than the name of the band?

It was NOT the Blackhearts. Bad Reputation predates the Blackhearts.

It was somebody else... two guys from a well known late 70s band.

I know she did some stuff with Iggy Pop, but I don't remember him being on that song.

Ritchie Cordell, Kenny Laguna, and Marty Joe Kupersmith (names that don't mean anything to me)

Nope. That was the blackhearts, if memory serves.

That is the lineup credited on the album.

Most of the album, yes. But on "Bad Reputation" and one other song the music is all Paul Cook and Steve Jones, formerly of the Sex Pistols.

I don't think they played any songs. They are credited with production on the songs "You Don't Own Me" and "Don't Abuse Me".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Reputation_(Joan_Jett_album)

There is a later release of the album with a bonus trackthat is "Live with 'the remains' of the Ramones". http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Reputation-Joan-Jett-Blackhearts/dp/B000006B6G

You're citing wikipedia?

http://www.answers.com/topic/paul-cook mentions the songs recorded with her. According to http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608000768/Joan-Jett.html there were three songs

http://www.outpost100.com/GUITAR-PLAYERS/steve-jones.html also mentions 'em.

also: http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=joan_jett

I have the bonus track with the Ramones. Pretty much just a straightforward live run through the song "Bad Reputation". Nice, but not particularly noteworthy.

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poopshovel wrote: I pretty much hate Social Distortion more than any band ever.

I'll bet you love fall out boy, new found glory, and texas is the reason..... don't worry.. cutters are sensitive people too..

Oh man, you're way off...though I do still have TITR's first 7" laying around somewhere. I was unaware they were still making music.

I don't hate SD so much as I berkeleying hate the sound of Mike Ness's voice. It's borderline 'unlistenable.' Couple that with the pseudo-"greaser"/pseudo-"post-punk" thing and it's just laughably awful to me. But to each his own. I know you and Hardy like to dress up like Betty Page and go to the rollerderby together, so SD's a natural fit for you.

Tim Baxter wrote: You're citing wikipedia?

There wasn't any mention of her music in any Israeli journals, so I had to settle for what was most convenient.