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DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
12/15/11 12:35 p.m.
Maroon92 wrote:
DoctorBlade wrote: ...what the hell is RWB, anyway?
RWB stands for "RAUH-Welt Begriff" It's german for Rough World Concepts (roughly translated...lol). Rough World was the name of the drifting crew that Akira Nakai used to belong to (his first build was an AE86 which was credited with starting the "Demon Camber" look in drifting, and that's a craze all on it's own.) Nakai-San then took a liking to a little 80-sumthin' 911 and built the hell out of it. That car is now known as Stella Artois. (Nakai-san is never seen without a bottle in one hand and a lit Marlboro tucked in the corner of his mouth. He is the embodiment of the lazy slacker modern artist if ever I have seen one...but what he creates really is art, not a dented soup can mounted on a mannequin)...

Ah. I'm not quite a stickler for automotive purism, but that Stella Artois buggy up there doesn't really do anything for me. Except the rims, which are cool.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/15/11 12:36 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: He is kind of a pasty white fat guy that looks like he would be more at home at a Star Trek convention than at the race track.

Have you been to an auto-x? I think you might be underestimating the population crossover between nerds and racers. There is a high geek factor in racing.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/15/11 12:38 p.m.

Geek is the new Chic...

Fat pasty white guy is not...

scardeal
scardeal HalfDork
12/15/11 12:38 p.m.

All of those cars would be eleventy billion times better with a less fast and furious wing on the back. The rest of it I can live with.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/15/11 12:39 p.m.
scardeal wrote: All of those cars would be eleventy billion times better with a less fast and furious wing on the back. The rest of it I can live with.

Would you tell that to Per's LeGrand? Big wing equals Big Downforces...

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
12/15/11 1:29 p.m.

Actually, Jack Baruth just called me to bust my hump about my earlier comment.

He's not a douche. He's very much one of us. He writes from an emotional place, with a style designed to elicit an emotional response, and it worked like a charm on me.

On this issue, I happen to disagree with him. I think he creates a bit of a false dichotomy between doing the "right" thing with a car and the "wrong" thing with a car. Me, I'm just glad someone is doing something with a car and not nothing, which would truly be a shame.

I give big props to the guy as a writer for calling me out on a comment that shouldn't have been directed at him, but at the piece he wrote (that I still disagree with, which I think I mentioned).

jg

Lesley
Lesley SuperDork
12/15/11 1:33 p.m.

Props to him for that. Lots of room for lots of different tastes... lord knows I have different tastes.

HunterJP
HunterJP GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/15/11 2:07 p.m.

What? Does he google his berkeleying name? Or is he a member here? Speak, Mr. Baruth, speak!

Oh, and I like the look of the cars. Flares make everything better, no? I cannot speak of the functionality they possess, however.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/15/11 2:08 p.m.
JG Pasterjak wrote: Actually, Jack Baruth just called me to bust my hump about my earlier comment. He's not a douche. He's very much one of us. He writes from an emotional place, with a style designed to elicit an emotional response, and it worked like a charm on me. On this issue, I happen to disagree with him. I think he creates a bit of a false dichotomy between doing the "right" thing with a car and the "wrong" thing with a car. Me, I'm just glad someone is doing something with a car and not nothing, which would truly be a shame. I give big props to the guy as a writer for calling me out on a comment that shouldn't have been directed at him, but at the piece he wrote (that I still disagree with, which I think I mentioned). jg

Okay, I can admit that I may have been wrong about his personality, but the perspective of that particular piece has had me hot under the collar since I saw it two weeks ago. He comes across (again, in that particular article) as an elitist shiny happy person. And I mean that in the nicest way possible

Lesley
Lesley SuperDork
12/15/11 2:12 p.m.

I've met Jack a couple of times. And while I don't always agree with his opinions, I'm glad he's got the balls to express them – someone's gotta rattle the cages.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
12/15/11 2:24 p.m.

I was previously unaware of RWB Porsches. Now I think they are hot. So thanks.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/15/11 3:00 p.m.

Something like an RWB Porsche is going to create an emotional response.

For everyone who ever spent time doodling race cars when they were 10, this is the car they were probably trying to draw.

For everyone who wants to cultivate and preserve Porsche history or participate in Councours events, these things are the devil.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
12/15/11 3:13 p.m.

The details on these cars really kill them for me. The semi-gloss paint, the wheel and tire packages, the decals, the fact that one of them appears to have "illest" written out in rhinestones on the air dam... My generation's sense of aesthetics sometimes eludes me.

To each his own though. I don't like them, but I'd rather see them this way than locked away, sitting in some climate controlled storage facility.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
12/15/11 3:14 p.m.
Maroon92 wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote: Actually, Jack Baruth just called me to bust my hump about my earlier comment. (much backpedalling)
He comes across (again, in that particular article) as an elitist shiny happy person.

Yes. His author persona is somewhere between shiny happy person and douche nozzle. And really, what else do we have to judge by? Still... if his objective was to generate buzz for his piece... mission accomplished. I know his name now.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
12/15/11 3:16 p.m.
MG Bryan wrote: The details on these cars really kill them for me. The semi-gloss paint, the wheel and tire packages, the decals, the fact that one of them appears to have "illest" written out in rhinestones on the air dam... My generation's sense of aesthetics sometimes eludes me. To each his own though. I don't like them, but I'd rather see them this way than locked away, sitting in some climate controlled storage facility.

I saw that when I was looking at them. It is written in screws.

1slowcrx
1slowcrx HalfDork
12/15/11 3:18 p.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote: I was previously unaware of RWB Porsches. Now I think they are hot. So thanks.

Agreed! something something post snot rocket play money something something

Dooooooooooo eeeeettttttt!

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/15/11 3:23 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
MG Bryan wrote: The details on these cars really kill them for me. The semi-gloss paint, the wheel and tire packages, the decals, the fact that one of them appears to have "illest" written out in rhinestones on the air dam... My generation's sense of aesthetics sometimes eludes me. To each his own though. I don't like them, but I'd rather see them this way than locked away, sitting in some climate controlled storage facility.
I saw that when I was looking at them. It is written in screws.

Yep, written in screws. That's why I like it...

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/15/11 3:23 p.m.

Oh, and these. ROTIFORM makes sexy...

These are the coolest wheel since BBS TurboFans.

MG Bryan
MG Bryan HalfDork
12/15/11 3:24 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
MG Bryan wrote: The details on these cars really kill them for me. The semi-gloss paint, the wheel and tire packages, the decals, the fact that one of them appears to have "illest" written out in rhinestones on the air dam... My generation's sense of aesthetics sometimes eludes me. To each his own though. I don't like them, but I'd rather see them this way than locked away, sitting in some climate controlled storage facility.
I saw that when I was looking at them. It is written in screws.

Fair enough. Either way, It looks ridiculous from my perspective. That said, I don't understand flat brim hats or large advertisements printed on t-shirts either. I missed the boat on this one.

Gasoline
Gasoline Reader
12/15/11 3:29 p.m.

Its all cool in my book.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/15/11 3:33 p.m.

Huh. Generally I dislike air-cooled 911's, dislike flat paint, hate brotato-ness details, and really loathe stretched tires with stupid camber.

But I'd be lying if I said I could stop looking at these. They just work. The fact that all of them are street driven and wailed to snot on the track actually makes them cool. Like really, seriously cool.

Damn.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
12/15/11 3:38 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Huh. Generally I dislike air-cooled 911's, dislike flat paint, hate brotato-ness details, and really loathe stretched tires with stupid camber.

I found a small rust bubble just under the windshield gasket on my 964... and I've always hated red. I just automatically assumed it would be black if I have to do body work but... that flat green looks pretty damn sexy.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
12/15/11 3:42 p.m.

In reply to Javelin:

I don't know if I would say those cars have stretched tires with stupid camber.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde HalfDork
12/15/11 3:51 p.m.

I really like those cars, even the flat paint. But naming the cars and plating the name across the side went out with Wizard vans and Saturday Night Special camaros with the Highjackers in the back. Even if it is done in screws.

Other than that, fun stuff.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
12/15/11 3:53 p.m.

Nakai-San kinda makes me want to build a 986 Boxster track rat in RWB style.

Gimme a 996 RSR bumper and fender flares, a zeintop, a HUGE functional rear wing, a ton of carbon, 20X13 all around flat black Rotiforms,and flat red paint. (Maniacal laugh, maniacal laugh!)

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